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 mxcrazy
Regular  Location: hastings Registered: 22 Jun 2009 Posts: 456 Status: Offline |
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Having a look around for suspension, decided that the Spax RSX kit i had wasnt what i wanted for my track car.I have been looking at the D2 racing coilovers, havnt found anything Peugeot using them as of yet, but they seem to be regarded quite highly with JAP car owners, the earlier ones seemed to have a few problems with leakage, but that seems to have been resolved. It seems that they would come with adjustable top mounts too. clicky |
 Posted 2nd Mar 2010 at 23:57
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welshpug!
Capt Pedantic  Location: Bigend, Wales. Registered: 27 Mar 2007 Posts: 25,838 Status: Offline |
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jap coilovers=spine breakers!typically that is, not a clue on these. ________________________________________ need a part number? get on here - http://public.servicebox.peugeot.comBring on the Trumpets. |
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Posted 2nd Mar 2010 at 23:20
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mxcrazy
Regular Location: hastings Registered: 22 Jun 2009 Posts: 456 Status: Offline |
Post #3
welshpug! wrote: jap coilovers=spine breakers! typically that is, not a clue on these. They seem to get quite a good review on the 'ride' side of things, with spring pre-load and height adjust-ability separate. Mine would be for a track only car so it doesnt matter to me too much anyway. |
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Posted 2nd Mar 2010 at 23:59
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lotek
Seasoned Pro  Location: Berkshire Registered: 04 Dec 2007 Posts: 6,107 Status: Offline |
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jap coilovers seem to send jap cars into barriers at every trackday ive been to  |
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Posted 3rd Mar 2010 at 00:45
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mxcrazy
Regular Location: hastings Registered: 22 Jun 2009 Posts: 456 Status: Offline |
Post #5
lotek wrote: jap coilovers seem to send jap cars into barriers at every trackday ive been to Is that limited to the JAP cars with coilovers, or any Jap car? The Peugeot handles in the first place remember.  |
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Posted 3rd Mar 2010 at 03:11
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daveyboy
aka Jim Davey  Location: Southampton Registered: 01 Oct 2007 Posts: 8,648 Status: Online |
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mxcrazy wrote: lotek wrote: jap coilovers seem to send jap cars into barriers at every trackday ive been to Is that limited to the JAP cars with coilovers, or any Jap car? The Peugeot handles in the first place remember. Jap roads and tracks are billiard table smooth, and as such their suspension kits tend to be very hard to maximise grip on those types of surfaces, this does'nt translate to good grip on our bumpy roads at all. And high kerbs and rumble strips on track will upset cars that are set up too hard as well. Best not be a guinea pig for these and find out the hard way that they don't work for you. Best to get in touch with the manufacturers and ask if they can put you in touch with a satisfied customer or two who are using them as you intend to and preferably in the same model of car. ________________________________________ R H Davey Welding Supplies. I sell new and used welding equipment in the Hampshire area. I take on welding jobs in the evenings, ally casting repairs are one of my specialities but I can weld pretty much anything. PM me with your requirements.Some of my services: (See my for sale threads) Engine mount/chassis repair Solid Beam Mounts BACK IN PRODUCTION Harness bars |
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Posted 3rd Mar 2010 at 03:18
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mxcrazy
Regular Location: hastings Registered: 22 Jun 2009 Posts: 456 Status: Offline |
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daveyboy wrote: mxcrazy wrote: lotek wrote: jap coilovers seem to send jap cars into barriers at every trackday ive been to Is that limited to the JAP cars with coilovers, or any Jap car? The Peugeot handles in the first place remember. Jap roads and tracks are billiard table smooth, and as such their suspension kits tend to be very hard to maximise grip on those types of surfaces, this does'nt translate to good grip on our bumpy roads at all. And high kerbs and rumble strips on track will upset cars that are set up too hard as well. Best not be a guinea pig for these and find out the hard way that they don't work for you. Best to get in touch with the manufacturers and ask if they can put you in touch with a satisfied customer or two who are using them as you intend to and preferably in the same model of car. I think that is maybe where the problem lays though. They are adjustable, and different spring rates available like most coilovers, im sure the valving will be changable too if needed. The good thing with them is the separate height adjustment and spring pre-load, you can have the car with a low stance but still with travel. |
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Posted 3rd Mar 2010 at 03:31
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phillipm
Seasoned Pro  Location: Rotherham Registered: 15 Oct 2006 Posts: 20,607 Status: Offline |
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Which is a good thing, unless you forget that it's then possible to make your wheel arch part of the bump travel ________________________________________ - Bespoke rollcages/additions/adjustments. Half cages right up to complete custom spaceframes - MSA/FIA spec, CDS, ROPT, T45, etc - PM meEmail me! Custom-made polybushes available - need an odd size or fitment? - anything from batch work to one-off pieces. |
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Posted 3rd Mar 2010 at 03:33
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mxcrazy
Regular Location: hastings Registered: 22 Jun 2009 Posts: 456 Status: Offline |
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phillipm wrote: Which is a good thing, unless you forget that it's then possible to make your wheel arch part of the bump travel Ofcourse, there is a compromise i understand that, some coilovers if set 'too' low will be prone to bottoming though. I know the 306 doesnt want to be too low for handling purposes anyway. |
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Posted 3rd Mar 2010 at 03:41
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adam b
Seasoned Pro  Location: The Nam Registered: 24 Jan 2006 Posts: 12,828 Status: Offline |
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How much are they?________________________________________ Nothing to see here |
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Posted 3rd Mar 2010 at 13:47
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orso
Newbie Location: Bulgaria Registered: 29 Jul 2009 Posts: 32 Status: Offline |
Post #11
Here in Bulgaria they are about 900 euros. Another taiwanian coilovers XYZ (very similar to D2) are about 850. |
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Posted 3rd Mar 2010 at 14:17
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welshpug!
Capt Pedantic Location: Bigend, Wales. Registered: 27 Mar 2007 Posts: 25,838 Status: Offline |
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AST money  ________________________________________ need a part number? get on here - http://public.servicebox.peugeot.comBring on the Trumpets. |
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Posted 3rd Mar 2010 at 15:55
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mxcrazy
Regular Location: hastings Registered: 22 Jun 2009 Posts: 456 Status: Offline |
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Posted 3rd Mar 2010 at 17:32
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adam b
Seasoned Pro Location: The Nam Registered: 24 Jan 2006 Posts: 12,828 Status: Offline |
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Can find a car with them on so you can actually try them out? I'd be concerned about spending that much on something I have no experience. Thats just me though and obviously no one would sell anything if everyone was the same!Any particular reason to go for these over something like a Bilstein 205 Group A coilover setup? Or alternatively find some second hand 205 AST/proflex etc etc. They do fit ________________________________________ Nothing to see here |
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Posted 3rd Mar 2010 at 17:54
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mxcrazy
Regular Location: hastings Registered: 22 Jun 2009 Posts: 456 Status: Offline |
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adam b wrote: Can find a car with them on so you can actually try them out? I'd be concerned about spending that much on something I have no experience. Thats just me though and obviously no one would sell anything if everyone was the same! Any particular reason to go for these over something like a Bilstein 205 Group A coilover setup? Or alternatively find some second hand 205 AST/proflex etc etc. They do fit As said before it is a risk to be the first one to try them. there is no reason to chose these over anything else, its just finding something like the Bilsteins or ASt's etc second hand. At |
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Posted 3rd Mar 2010 at 18:01
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mxcrazy
Regular Location: hastings Registered: 22 Jun 2009 Posts: 456 Status: Offline |
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Im trying to crack a deal with the guy to get a set of these possibly and try them on my road car, thats then a real world tester for the kit. There are a couple of decent b-roads round my way i can give them a fairly decent going over on, and some decent smooth roads too. There are different spring rates to chose from when supplied, ill also have to get my dad to drive the car, he does more miles than me and has driven many a different type and spec of car over the years on the same route to work at Quaife.I would then, if it goes ahead, come back to you guys with a report on them. In the guys words 'there is no reason why these would be any harsher, and or stiff than anything else out there', its spring rate that determines that, and damping that controls the speed of movement, and that is adjustable. Bearing in mind that adjustable top mounts are what, |
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Posted 9th Mar 2010 at 19:58
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adam b
Seasoned Pro Location: The Nam Registered: 24 Jan 2006 Posts: 12,828 Status: Offline |
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What rate springs would you go for on a road car then?________________________________________ Nothing to see here |
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Posted 9th Mar 2010 at 20:18
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mxcrazy
Regular Location: hastings Registered: 22 Jun 2009 Posts: 456 Status: Offline |
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adam b wrote: What rate springs would you go for on a road car then? That was going to be my next question too, ive got some 21mm tb's to go in the rear, and a hybrid ARB so would like some advice if anyone has any? |
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Posted 9th Mar 2010 at 21:32
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adam b
Seasoned Pro Location: The Nam Registered: 24 Jan 2006 Posts: 12,828 Status: Offline |
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I'm using standard rear TBs, hybrid rear ARB and 285lb front springs. Nice compliant ride for the road. The awesome damping helps as well  ________________________________________ Nothing to see here |
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Posted 10th Mar 2010 at 02:31
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mxcrazy
Regular Location: hastings Registered: 22 Jun 2009 Posts: 456 Status: Offline |
Post #20
I had a good look around and was thinking in the 250-300lb mark for the road.They do a 5kg/mm spring which is, if im not mistaken 280lb/in. I think im just going to order a set, nuts to it, im not sitting around waiting for someone else to do it just got to sort the final details out, double check a few things. |
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Posted 10th Mar 2010 at 03:43
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mxcrazy
Regular Location: hastings Registered: 22 Jun 2009 Posts: 456 Status: Offline |
Post #21
Update on this slightly, i did order a set and they should be here in the next week or so, so i will get them fitted not too long after, though they will be combined with solid beam mounts, rich's wishbone bushes, 21mm tb's, rose jointed drop links, Hybrid ARB. |
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Posted 13th Apr 2010 at 23:55
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adam b
Seasoned Pro Location: The Nam Registered: 24 Jan 2006 Posts: 12,828 Status: Offline |
Post #22
Cool, be interested to see what you think of them. Could be quite a weapon you have there with all that kit on it  ________________________________________ Nothing to see here |
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Posted 15th Apr 2010 at 14:28
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mxcrazy
Regular Location: hastings Registered: 22 Jun 2009 Posts: 456 Status: Offline |
Post #23
adam b wrote: Cool, be interested to see what you think of them. Could be quite a weapon you have there with all that kit on it Will be a bit unfair to be honest to bolt all that on at the same time regarding comparisons though. No doubt it will be far better than my worn out OEM stuff. It should be even more of a weapon if i end up building this 2335cc N/A lump for it.  |
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Posted 16th Apr 2010 at 00:16
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adam b
Seasoned Pro Location: The Nam Registered: 24 Jan 2006 Posts: 12,828 Status: Offline |
Post #24
Very true, was hard for me to do a direct comparison as it took about 3 months to get the kit sorted out. You know when its working properly though.________________________________________ Nothing to see here |
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Posted 17th Apr 2010 at 14:55
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denwar
Regular  Location: falkirk Registered: 08 Dec 2008 Posts: 287 Status: Offline |
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just get them horsed on....________________________________________ denwar |
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Posted 21st Apr 2010 at 23:28
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