Post #26
well , i fitted a Hybrid ARB today and GOOD LORD my car is transformed !! 
the handling is spot on! understeer has been pretty much eradicated.
but LOOS hs returned.
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 lotek
Seasoned Pro  Location: Berkshire Registered: 04 Dec 2007 Posts: 6,107 Status: Offline |
the handling is spot on! understeer has been pretty much eradicated. but LOOS hs returned. |
 Posted 18th Mar 2010 at 02:52
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mxcrazy
Regular  Location: hastings Registered: 22 Jun 2009 Posts: 456 Status: Offline |
Post #27
lotek wrote: well , i fitted a Hybrid ARB today and GOOD LORD my car is transformed !! the handling is spot on! understeer has been pretty much eradicated. but LOOS hs returned. Learn to control that loos like its second nature and you can use that to turn the car in lovely. |
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Posted 18th Mar 2010 at 03:00
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pdd144c
Senior User  Location: Southampton Registered: 09 Dec 2005 Posts: 550 Status: Offline |
Post #28
You want loos so you can control the car turning with your right foot  ________________________________________ FOR SALE205 Turbo Technics complete and 306 Rallye Race Build breaking. |
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Posted 18th Mar 2010 at 16:46
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monkeyman
Seasoned Pro  Location: Sunny St Albans Registered: 01 Oct 2008 Posts: 1,955 Status: Offline |
Post #29
It can make a huge difference  see if adding the front strut brace makes a positive improvement. may/ may not ________________________________________ Spanner Monkeys Monkey SpannerForum Search Clicky |
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Posted 18th Mar 2010 at 17:57
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cjm_harris
Seasoned Pro  Location: Parts for Sale section Registered: 04 Dec 2007 Posts: 7,442 Status: Offline |
Post #30
lotek wrote: well , i fitted a Hybrid ARB today and GOOD LORD my car is transformed !! the handling is spot on! understeer has been pretty much eradicated. but LOOS hs returned. I thought it was very difficult to get LOOS when you have a hybrid ARB?  ________________________________________ Chris1999 China Gti6 Supercharged  [Fun car] >>Project Thread<<2000 Bianca 306 Diesel [Work runabout] |
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Posted 18th Mar 2010 at 21:17
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welshpug!
Capt Pedantic  Location: Bigend, Wales. Registered: 27 Mar 2007 Posts: 25,839 Status: Offline |
Post #31
far from it, a lot easier but should be more progressive.the way it reduces understeer is to reduce weight transfer induced roll, and although it does mean that the rear tyres are going to be flatter, it'll mean more often than not that only one rear wheel will be in contact with the road. not sure if that'll mean more grip from a flatter tyre, or less grip as its only one tyre  ________________________________________ need a part number? get on here - http://public.servicebox.peugeot.comBring on the Trumpets. |
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Posted 18th Mar 2010 at 21:32
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rallyestyle
Seasoned Pro  Location: London Registered: 23 Jul 2003 Posts: 14,990 Status: Offline |
Post #32
welshpug! wrote: far from it, a lot easier Oh joy, something to look forward too I actually quite like it, as long as you know its coming its ok  Does having solid mounts do anything to it?________________________________________ Just Drive It |
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Posted 18th Mar 2010 at 21:31
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darkgti6
Seasoned Pro  Location: Bracknell Registered: 07 Jun 2008 Posts: 1,361 Status: Offline |
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welshpug! wrote: far from it, a lot easier but should be more progressive. the way it reduces understeer is to reduce weight transfer induced roll, and although it does mean that the rear tyres are going to be flatter, it'll mean more often than not that only one rear wheel will be in contact with the road. not sure if that'll mean more grip from a flatter tyre, or less grip as its only one tyre Are you sure about waving a rear wheel, I would have thought it would help eliminate this? Ive noticed it can be coaxed into LOOS in the wet a lot easier since fitting the hybrid ARB and agreed it is more progressive - been having great fun on roundabouts in the wet but I have ditch finders on the back and contis on the front which is definetly helping matters, will be interesting what happens when i switch them round  ________________________________________ Team Peugeot Sport 308 Gti�Black T'99 Gti - may she rest in peace - written off in a shunt on the A329m |
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Posted 18th Mar 2010 at 22:24
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cjm_harris
Seasoned Pro Location: Parts for Sale section Registered: 04 Dec 2007 Posts: 7,442 Status: Offline |
Post #34
rallyestyle wrote: welshpug! wrote: far from it, a lot easier Oh joy, something to look forward too I actually quite like it, as long as you know its coming its ok Does having solid mounts do anything to it?After I posted I realised that I was thinking of solid mounts, not a hybrid ARB  ________________________________________ Chris1999 China Gti6 Supercharged [Fun car] >>Project Thread<<2000 Bianca 306 Diesel [Work runabout] |
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Posted 18th Mar 2010 at 23:39
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lotek
Seasoned Pro Location: Berkshire Registered: 04 Dec 2007 Posts: 6,107 Status: Offline |
Post #35
welshpug! wrote: it'll mean more often than not that only one rear wheel will be in contact with the road. tell me about it!! its a permanent tripod ! lmao |
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Posted 18th Mar 2010 at 23:44
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adam b
Seasoned Pro  Location: The Nam Registered: 24 Jan 2006 Posts: 12,828 Status: Offline |
Post #36
If it waves a rear wheel depends on your front springs/dampers/ alignment tbh. Mine still does but I have be really, really trying.Right on the solid mounts yes - they'll reduce turn in speed and make loos a bit harder to initiate. Hence why I don't like them on a road car.  ________________________________________ Nothing to see here |
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Posted 18th Mar 2010 at 23:45
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lotek
Seasoned Pro Location: Berkshire Registered: 04 Dec 2007 Posts: 6,107 Status: Offline |
Post #37
koni sport adj front and rear.as of yesterday i set front to hard and increased front psi, seems to be alot more positive now . still cocks a wheel though |
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Posted 18th Mar 2010 at 23:49
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hovis16
Seasoned Pro  Location: Reading/parts for sale Registered: 21 Nov 2008 Posts: 4,306 Status: Offline |
Post #38
I have never really noticed loos on mine i have had some ovesteer moments tho ________________________________________ Ph2 Black GTI 6!EX black 6 owner But now a Black caged rallye owner Hunting for Go faster bits! SEARCH click here |
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Posted 19th Mar 2010 at 00:05
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adam b
Seasoned Pro Location: The Nam Registered: 24 Jan 2006 Posts: 12,828 Status: Offline |
Post #39
Probably softish front springs, but don't worry about it ________________________________________ Nothing to see here |
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Posted 19th Mar 2010 at 00:55
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cayuse
Junior User Location: reading Registered: 28 Feb 2010 Posts: 85 Status: Offline |
Post #40
are you the two guys who was at brands on the 26th? |
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Posted 28th Mar 2010 at 00:00
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hovis16
Seasoned Pro Location: Reading/parts for sale Registered: 21 Nov 2008 Posts: 4,306 Status: Offline |
Post #41
yes we are haha________________________________________ Ph2 Black GTI 6!EX black 6 owner But now a Black caged rallye owner Hunting for Go faster bits! SEARCH click here |
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Posted 28th Mar 2010 at 03:08
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cayuse
Junior User Location: reading Registered: 28 Feb 2010 Posts: 85 Status: Offline |
Post #42
haha i was the dude in the punto gt in the next garage. I did swap it for a GTI6. |
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Posted 28th Mar 2010 at 03:10
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cayuse
Junior User Location: reading Registered: 28 Feb 2010 Posts: 85 Status: Offline |
Post #43
shit dog your from reading to haha |
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Posted 28th Mar 2010 at 03:11
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hovis16
Seasoned Pro Location: Reading/parts for sale Registered: 21 Nov 2008 Posts: 4,306 Status: Offline |
Post #44
haha i just noticed haha jokes what you got________________________________________ Ph2 Black GTI 6!EX black 6 owner But now a Black caged rallye owner Hunting for Go faster bits! SEARCH click here |
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Posted 28th Mar 2010 at 03:17
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cayuse
Junior User Location: reading Registered: 28 Feb 2010 Posts: 85 Status: Offline |
Post #45
gti 6 lol |
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Posted 28th Mar 2010 at 03:18
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monkeyman
Seasoned Pro Location: Sunny St Albans Registered: 01 Oct 2008 Posts: 1,955 Status: Offline |
Post #46
Lotek, I had a spin in a 205 Gti with front plate diff, absolutely stunning, but more track oriented.________________________________________ Spanner Monkeys Monkey SpannerForum Search Clicky |
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Posted 30th Mar 2010 at 00:25
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lotek
Seasoned Pro Location: Berkshire Registered: 04 Dec 2007 Posts: 6,107 Status: Offline |
Post #47
A LSD is definately something i am going to consider! the Hybrid ARB made a world of difference though!! |
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Posted 30th Mar 2010 at 00:44
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lotek
Seasoned Pro Location: Berkshire Registered: 04 Dec 2007 Posts: 6,107 Status: Offline |
Post #48
cayuse wrote: shit dog your from reading to haha How random! it really is a small world. hows she treating ya? |
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Posted 30th Mar 2010 at 00:45
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fbmmart
Junior User Location: Brixham Registered: 05 Dec 2007 Posts: 99 Status: Offline |
Post #49
On a FWD vehicle the rear end just trails around.Reducing the rear grip, will balance out the understeer. Higher tyres pressures, stiffer damping, larger anti roll bars etc will achieve this. As for tyre pressures, stick to the manufactures recommended pressure, they know what they are talking about. Rather than accelerating into corners, try braking and letting the front end raise fully before cornering, then applying a constant lock and throttle untill the apex.. Trail braking is great, but you have to be very careful at high speed or in the wet, and be ready to catch a whole heap of Lift-Off-Oversteer.. |
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Posted 3rd Apr 2010 at 01:51
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phillipm
Seasoned Pro  Location: Rotherham Registered: 15 Oct 2006 Posts: 20,607 Status: Offline |
Post #50
Throttle before the apex?Bugger that. ________________________________________ - Bespoke rollcages/additions/adjustments. Half cages right up to complete custom spaceframes - MSA/FIA spec, CDS, ROPT, T45, etc - PM meEmail me! Custom-made polybushes available - need an odd size or fitment? - anything from batch work to one-off pieces. |
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Posted 3rd Apr 2010 at 01:58
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