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 idnan
Regular  Location: Birmingham Registered: 05 Sep 2007 Posts: 294 Status: Offline |
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Hello all,the rear suspension on my 306 is lowered 30mm and is currently on cheapo motor factor shocks. As a result the rear end feels saggy and soft. I'm guessing this is mainly down to the torsion bars but would using uprated shocks help? The options are the standard K6 shocks from Pug, or some uprated similar price ones such as Gaz GTs, Apex, Koni, Avo shocks etc. Which would be better? |
 Posted 26th Jan 2010 at 21:41
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greenbelt
Seasoned Pro  Location: How's Life In London? Registered: 23 Apr 2006 Posts: 1,961 Status: Offline |
Post #2
I asked Rich about this last week and he said the standard k6 shocks from pug are more than up to the job  ________________________________________ Standard Black 6Black HBSC6  |
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Posted 26th Jan 2010 at 21:47
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idnan
Regular Location: Birmingham Registered: 05 Sep 2007 Posts: 294 Status: Offline |
Post #3
Cheers, will get a set when I have some money available. |
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Posted 27th Jan 2010 at 20:31
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jonnie205
Seasoned Pro  Location: Bicester Registered: 10 Apr 2005 Posts: 4,146 Status: Offline |
Post #4
some good secondhand ones are the way to go |
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Posted 27th Jan 2010 at 21:05
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idnan
Regular Location: Birmingham Registered: 05 Sep 2007 Posts: 294 Status: Offline |
Post #5
haha the lowered beam was from you anyway  I'm splashing out for solid rear beam mounts and other stuff so I suppose new shocks aren't too expensive from Pug especially if I can get a discount. |
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Posted 27th Jan 2010 at 23:04
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china_306
Banned! Location: Stoke Registered: 25 Nov 2009 Posts: 129 Status: Offline |
Post #6
lol just answered my question! BUT there are two types of standard rear shocks avalible, my other question was "oil" filled or "gas" shocks? btw my 306 is lowered by 40MM  thanks in advance guys! r they hard to fit or is it somthing i could do myself, have limited tools tbh.... |
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Posted 28th Jan 2010 at 06:23
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phillipm
Seasoned Pro  Location: Rotherham Registered: 15 Oct 2006 Posts: 20,607 Status: Offline |
Post #7
You want the gas ones if you're going for Bilstiens, the oil ones are a very old twin tube design on low gas pressure, they don't generate enough low speed damping.________________________________________ - Bespoke rollcages/additions/adjustments. Half cages right up to complete custom spaceframes - MSA/FIA spec, CDS, ROPT, T45, etc - PM meEmail me! Custom-made polybushes available - need an odd size or fitment? - anything from batch work to one-off pieces. |
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Posted 28th Jan 2010 at 06:37
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welshpug!
Capt Pedantic  Location: Bigend, Wales. Registered: 27 Mar 2007 Posts: 25,838 Status: Offline |
Post #8
if you7 are going for the Black Bilsteins get the ones for the ZX ________________________________________ need a part number? get on here - http://public.servicebox.peugeot.comBring on the Trumpets. |
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Posted 28th Jan 2010 at 14:50
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idnan
Regular Location: Birmingham Registered: 05 Sep 2007 Posts: 294 Status: Offline |
Post #9
Have you got a part number for the ZX shocks? How do they compare to the oem 3606K6 shocks from Pug? |
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Posted 28th Jan 2010 at 17:16
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welshpug!
Capt Pedantic Location: Bigend, Wales. Registered: 27 Mar 2007 Posts: 25,838 Status: Offline |
Post #10
slightly shorter bodied, was recommended them by Miles.BNE-1932 is the code for them, just from the pictures on the Bilstein Webkat they look better than the slightly weedy BNE-1931 ________________________________________ need a part number? get on here - http://public.servicebox.peugeot.comBring on the Trumpets. |
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Posted 28th Jan 2010 at 17:51
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idnan
Regular Location: Birmingham Registered: 05 Sep 2007 Posts: 294 Status: Offline |
Post #11
Cheers, will get some from Euro Car Parts when I get the chance |
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Posted 28th Jan 2010 at 18:47
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eddiebeano
Senior User  Location: Edinburgh Registered: 31 Dec 2008 Posts: 715 Status: Offline |
Post #12
Bump for this thread rather than starting a new one. I currently have cheap motor factor dampers on the rear, with 21mm tbs and kwv2s up front, both down around 35-40mm. Would I benefit from fitting a pair of 'PUG 205 COMPETITION CHALLENGE SPEC REAR BILSTIEN SHOCKS EACH PART NUMBER B461038' or would I be better changing to a hybrid arb first?________________________________________ team: Stealth |
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Posted 8th Jul 2012 at 11:25
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jord294
Seasoned Pro  Location: somewhere in north wales Registered: 09 Nov 2009 Posts: 3,110 Status: Offline |
Post #13
Personally, i'd try decent shocks first ________________________________________ FRESHLY RE-FURBISHED GTI BEAMSFITTING AND LOWERING AVAILABLE. ALL AXLES BUILT USING GENUINE PEUGEOT PARTS IF I'M NOT HERE, IT ONLY MEANS ONE THING.... I'M SOMEWHERE ELSE! |
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Posted 8th Jul 2012 at 11:43
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eddiebeano
Senior User Location: Edinburgh Registered: 31 Dec 2008 Posts: 715 Status: Offline |
Post #14
Ok thanks, from experience what difference will different rear dampers make to the way the car handles? ________________________________________ team: Stealth |
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Posted 9th Jul 2012 at 10:37
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eliotrw
Seasoned Pro  Location: Southwark Registered: 18 Jul 2010 Posts: 4,864 Status: Offline |
Post #15
I've heard those group n bilsteins are veryyyy stiff. Fine for a track I would assume, but probably not so much for any road thats not like a glassy surface ________________________________________ Ex- Phase 3 China GTi-6 T-Reg |
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Posted 9th Jul 2012 at 10:56
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eddiebeano
Senior User Location: Edinburgh Registered: 31 Dec 2008 Posts: 715 Status: Offline |
Post #16
I heard that too, they look pretty beefy compared to oems. I've got a saggy rear end tho. Well, compared to the front anyway!________________________________________ team: Stealth |
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Posted 9th Jul 2012 at 11:11
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welshpug!
Capt Pedantic Location: Bigend, Wales. Registered: 27 Mar 2007 Posts: 25,838 Status: Offline |
Post #17
they'll be fiiine ________________________________________ need a part number? get on here - http://public.servicebox.peugeot.comBring on the Trumpets. |
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Posted 9th Jul 2012 at 12:50
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miles
Seasoned Pro  Location: Ringwood Registered: 28 Dec 2002 Posts: 3,433 Status: Offline |
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I use them on allot of 05's & 06's, not too hard at all I think________________________________________ 306 Rallye Sptint/Race Car, 205 CTI 1.9 8v to name a fewRoad, Track and Race/Rally car preparation to your personal requirements, Full Workshop & Diagnostic Facilities New and Second parts, from Plugs to Turbo's We now also carry out Routine Servicing www.pugracing.com & FB Page, https://www.facebook.com/PugRacing Ebay; http://stores.ebay.co.uk/Pug-Racing-Shop 2012/2013/2014/2019 Class Winners at Gurston Down Speed Hillclimb & Joint overall, Class record too along the way, |
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Posted 10th Jul 2012 at 01:25
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davewagon
Senior User  Location: Corby / Northampton Registered: 21 Feb 2007 Posts: 889 Status: Offline |
Post #19
What sort of price are they please?________________________________________ Team: Moonstone GTI-6™Team: ian7675 wrote: Remember....a 6 isn't just a car, it's a part time job |
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Posted 10th Jul 2012 at 19:54
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eliotrw
Seasoned Pro Location: Southwark Registered: 18 Jul 2010 Posts: 4,864 Status: Offline |
Post #20
Ok so i was hovering over the buy button for b8's remembered this thread and thought about these instead.For the two they are only 60 quid more (260 quid) Basically the setup will be b8s and eibach up front No solid rubber replacement up front just standard bushes etc Up back solid mounts 21mmtb hybrid arb and either these or the b8's Obviously they are stiffer than b8's BUT if I use them on the road and travel 300 miles at a time will they do my head in? ________________________________________ Ex- Phase 3 China GTi-6 T-Reg |
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Posted 27th Jul 2012 at 09:28
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welshpug!
Capt Pedantic Location: Bigend, Wales. Registered: 27 Mar 2007 Posts: 25,838 Status: Offline |
Post #21
very much personal preference.I have them though and can't fault them, and this is on a lighter and stiffer 205 (shorter 21mm torsion bars, so higher spring rate) it's the front damping I'm not so keen on. ________________________________________ need a part number? get on here - http://public.servicebox.peugeot.comBring on the Trumpets. |
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Posted 27th Jul 2012 at 09:30
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eliotrw
Seasoned Pro Location: Southwark Registered: 18 Jul 2010 Posts: 4,864 Status: Offline |
Post #22
Tbh i think I am quite tolerant.I.e I have driven a corsa vxr a fair bit and didnt find it stiff. A lot of people would disagree. I assume this means I should probably just get them Although my main worry is imbalance between front and rear as a result? ________________________________________ Ex- Phase 3 China GTi-6 T-Reg |
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Posted 27th Jul 2012 at 09:33
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welshpug!
Capt Pedantic Location: Bigend, Wales. Registered: 27 Mar 2007 Posts: 25,838 Status: Offline |
Post #23
better to be slightly stiffer at the back than too stiff on the front, they tend to understeer more if they're too stiff on the front and soft on the back.________________________________________ need a part number? get on here - http://public.servicebox.peugeot.comBring on the Trumpets. |
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Posted 27th Jul 2012 at 09:46
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eliotrw
Seasoned Pro Location: Southwark Registered: 18 Jul 2010 Posts: 4,864 Status: Offline |
Post #24
hmmm this is a tough decision... Will think it over for a bit.________________________________________ Ex- Phase 3 China GTi-6 T-Reg |
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Posted 27th Jul 2012 at 10:01
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eliotrw
Seasoned Pro Location: Southwark Registered: 18 Jul 2010 Posts: 4,864 Status: Offline |
Post #25
We are talking about these yes?Seems like a billy bargain http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/PEUGEOT-205-CHALLENGE-SPEC-GROUP-N-REAR-BILSTEIN-/260896440620?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item3cbea3c12c ________________________________________ Ex- Phase 3 China GTi-6 T-Reg |
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Posted 27th Jul 2012 at 10:12
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