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Author | Subject: supercharging gti6 |
drumfinpete
Newbie Location: ballymena Registered: 15 Dec 2009 Posts: 46 Status: Offline |
Post #1
hi, i am well on my way to building a budget supercharged gti6 hope to have it finished for under 2 grand including buying the car. i have added an eaton supercharger from an slk merc, intercooler and radiator from a 406 td and an oil cooler from a toyota pick up, i fear the biggest problem will be the engine management. hope to have it running this weekend in standard form to check belt alignment and wiring etc before adding the new injectors and connecting up the feed pipe to the inlet manifold (standard one cut and welded) have some photos if any one is interested, thanks pete ________________________________________ p millar |
Posted 5th Jan 2010 at 14:05
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rallyestyle
Seasoned Pro Location: London Registered: 23 Jul 2003 Posts: 14,990 Status: Offline |
Post #2
For sure, get pics posted up Any ideas on what sort of power you expect to gain, if you can get it all done for under 2k that would be a great achievement ________________________________________ Just Drive It |
Posted 5th Jan 2010 at 14:09
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drumfinpete
Newbie Location: ballymena Registered: 15 Dec 2009 Posts: 46 Status: Offline |
Post #3
hoping for 230 - 250 bhp would be happy with 220 hope to run 7-9 psi, will try to add pics this week, bill is at ________________________________________ p millar |
Posted 5th Jan 2010 at 14:53
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cjm_harris
Seasoned Pro Location: Parts for Sale section Registered: 04 Dec 2007 Posts: 7,442 Status: Offline |
Post #4
Is the Eaton charger out of the slk better then the Mini one I assume?I have heard stories about the Mini ones running out of puff, and having heat issues. Best of luck with the project though, hope you can get it all sorted, and as Tom has said.. Get some pictures up ________________________________________ Chris1999 China Gti6 Supercharged [Fun car] >>Project Thread<< 2000 Bianca 306 Diesel [Work runabout] |
Posted 5th Jan 2010 at 14:58
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drumfinpete
Newbie Location: ballymena Registered: 15 Dec 2009 Posts: 46 Status: Offline |
Post #5
slk was cheaper off ebay and it does not need an additional oil cooler its all self contained ________________________________________ p millar |
Posted 5th Jan 2010 at 18:20
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lotek
Seasoned Pro Location: Berkshire Registered: 04 Dec 2007 Posts: 6,107 Status: Offline |
Post #6
definatly get some pics up and keep us posted. this idea has been toyed with for a while but not seen through by anyone .will be interesting |
Posted 5th Jan 2010 at 18:33
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allanallen
Seasoned Pro Location: Buxton Registered: 01 May 2007 Posts: 1,399 Status: Offline |
Post #7
Look forward to seeing some pictures. I've been running a mini charger on my mi16 for a while now and a friend (m@tt on here) has an slk charger just about mounted up on his Gti6 engine. For the money you really cant go wrong. With the right internals you could easily see over 300 bhp with that charger :-) What pulley ratio are you running and have you done away with the electric clutch? Best of luck, al ________________________________________ www.bridgecraftmotorsport.co.uk |
Posted 6th Jan 2010 at 03:52
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chrisd306
Seasoned Pro Location: Perth Scotland Registered: 26 Nov 2005 Posts: 10,061 Status: Offline |
Post #8
Looking forward to seeing the pics of this mate, and welcome to the club mate________________________________________ In my garage just now2003 BMW M3 & 2009 L200 Raging Bull & Audi Q5 S Line AX stock rod & Saxo Stock rod Sold the bike an charged rallye an bought a caravan, midlife crisis or what! |
Posted 6th Jan 2010 at 17:52
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drumfinpete
Newbie Location: ballymena Registered: 15 Dec 2009 Posts: 46 Status: Offline |
Post #9
hi thanks for all your replys, have been trying to get pic on but too many pixels some one is going to show me how to do it at weekend. your mate that has already done a gti who programmed his ecu i need a base map yet and i am the first that i know in northern ireland and no one here has any experience of remapping these magneti morelli ones.________________________________________ p millar |
Posted 7th Jan 2010 at 23:25
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smegal
Seasoned Pro Location: Leeds Registered: 26 Dec 2005 Posts: 5,940 Status: Offline |
Post #10
Try uploading the pics to inageshack or photobucket. ________________________________________ Ex SC-6Now in a Megane R26 |
Posted 7th Jan 2010 at 23:38
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drumfinpete
Newbie Location: ballymena Registered: 15 Dec 2009 Posts: 46 Status: Offline |
Post #11
i am just running the pulley that came on it, no idea about the technical side just going to bolt it on and hope for the best may all end in tears, watch this space there may be a cheap charger and all the parts for sale if i blow the engine to bits ________________________________________ p millar |
Posted 7th Jan 2010 at 23:52
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drumfinpete
Newbie Location: ballymena Registered: 15 Dec 2009 Posts: 46 Status: Offline |
Post #12
lol, like your style dont put much faith in jesus though, my main priority is the budget too this is my sunday car i havent bought one prefabricated part yet doing it all from scrappies my kit has cost 400 including charger and uprated injectors ________________________________________ p millar |
Posted 7th Jan 2010 at 23:56
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lotek
Seasoned Pro Location: Berkshire Registered: 04 Dec 2007 Posts: 6,107 Status: Offline |
Post #13
allanallen wrote: Look forward to seeing some pictures. I've been running a mini charger on my mi16 for a while now and a friend (m@tt on here) has an slk charger just about mounted up on his Gti6 engine. For the money you really cant go wrong. With the right internals you could easily see over 300 bhp with that charger :-) What pulley ratio are you running and have you done away with the electric clutch? Best of luck, al got any more info on your charged mi16 setup? |
Posted 10th Jan 2010 at 10:03
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drumfinpete
Newbie Location: ballymena Registered: 15 Dec 2009 Posts: 46 Status: Offline |
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Posted 10th Jan 2010 at 19:18
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drumfinpete
Newbie Location: ballymena Registered: 15 Dec 2009 Posts: 46 Status: Offline |
Post #15
hope these help,takes ages to resize photos, still havent got inlet manifold back from welder will get it this week hopefully get it on and start it before i build up the front in case i have any probs ________________________________________ p millar |
Posted 10th Jan 2010 at 21:47
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drumfinpete
Newbie Location: ballymena Registered: 15 Dec 2009 Posts: 46 Status: Offline |
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Posted 10th Jan 2010 at 19:42
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drumfinpete
Newbie Location: ballymena Registered: 15 Dec 2009 Posts: 46 Status: Offline |
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Posted 10th Jan 2010 at 19:44
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allanallen
Seasoned Pro Location: Buxton Registered: 01 May 2007 Posts: 1,399 Status: Offline |
Post #18
Looks really good buddy. Thats a newer slk charger, its an m45 like the one I use. Earlier slk230s used the bigger m62 charger with a magnetic clutch on the pulley. should still net you the 250 ponies your after with the right pulley. Keep us updated, al ________________________________________ www.bridgecraftmotorsport.co.uk |
Posted 10th Jan 2010 at 23:15
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mabgti
NV motors Location: Bham tunnel @7400rpm Registered: 28 Aug 2003 Posts: 9,127 Status: Offline |
Post #19
Looks neat.. alot of people/companies are adapting to pull through forced induction on chargers these days.. Makes for a easier MAPPING session..dunno if your gonna have issues with stepper motor after the blades though?? ________________________________________ Team Supercharged Gti-6NV Motorsport Automotive Performance Tuning 0121 448 7515 ECU Remapping/ DPF removal VAG/BMW Diag and Option Coding Peugeot Planet ECU coding/transponder programming etc www.nvmotorsport.com Facebook Page Project S6 |
Posted 10th Jan 2010 at 23:51
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drumfinpete
Newbie Location: ballymena Registered: 15 Dec 2009 Posts: 46 Status: Offline |
Post #20
dont have an idea what a stepper motor is, but any guidance on mapping would be great its the only difficult part of the build, do i need to buy a base map or can i reprogram from scratch did you have any problems and who did it for you i wonder if they could advise me. i have read the 306 should be capable of handling the extra power in terms of wheel spin gearbox and drive shafts etc do you know if this is true ________________________________________ p millar |
Posted 11th Jan 2010 at 00:48
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allanallen
Seasoned Pro Location: Buxton Registered: 01 May 2007 Posts: 1,399 Status: Offline |
Post #21
mabgti wrote: Looks neat.. alot of people/companies are adapting to pull through forced induction on chargers these days.. Makes for a easier MAPPING session.. dunno if your gonna have issues with stepper motor after the blades though?? The stepper is fitted before the blades. This version of the charger has 2 inlet holes for some reason, so they've used the spare hole to fit the stepper in. The outlet is the hole you can see the blades through. Wayne schofield at chipwizards is your man for mapping. Don't know of anyone else mapping marrelli Stuff? As long as your gearbox/clutch, shafts etc are in good nick they'll easily handle the extra power. ________________________________________ www.bridgecraftmotorsport.co.uk |
Posted 11th Jan 2010 at 02:51
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drumfinpete
Newbie Location: ballymena Registered: 15 Dec 2009 Posts: 46 Status: Offline |
Post #22
what do you think the problems will be with the stepper and where would it be better mounted i put it here because i saw pictures of richard walkers project and he had it before the charger, thanks________________________________________ p millar |
Posted 11th Jan 2010 at 13:26
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allanallen
Seasoned Pro Location: Buxton Registered: 01 May 2007 Posts: 1,399 Status: Offline |
Post #23
Sorry my last post wasn't very clear. You've got the stepper in the correct place, in between the compressor and the throttle body. ________________________________________ www.bridgecraftmotorsport.co.uk |
Posted 11th Jan 2010 at 15:40
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drumfinpete
Newbie Location: ballymena Registered: 15 Dec 2009 Posts: 46 Status: Offline |
Post #24
hi guys , have finished my build, but car wont start________________________________________ p millar |
Posted 28th Jan 2010 at 02:46
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drumfinpete
Newbie Location: ballymena Registered: 15 Dec 2009 Posts: 46 Status: Offline |
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Posted 28th Jan 2010 at 02:47
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