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dommo

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Hi folks, just failed an MOT on a number of things, two being my front wishbone bushes. On GSF these are the related parts available, am I best going for the whole wishbones at 50 quid for the pair (do they come with both bushings?), or going for 2 of the more expensive and presumably better bushings? The list is below and will hopefully come out formatted correctly, if not I'll put it in another post!

Or finally, should I get the bushes from elsewhere? Cheers.


N42210 FR CONT ARM L/H 306 (REQUIRE BALLJOINT) 25.00 Add
N42211 FR CONT ARM R/H 306 (REQUIRE BALLJOINT) 25.00 Add
N42234 FR CONT ARM FR BUSH 306 4.85 Add
N42234A FR CONT ARM FR BUSH 306 3.25 Add
N42235 FR CONT ARM REAR BUSH 306 10.20 Add
N42235A FR CONT ARM REAR BUSH 306 6.75 Add

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Posted 25th Oct 2009 at 04:10
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did it fail on the p-bushes or the front ones as i didnt think the front ones failed

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Posted 25th Oct 2009 at 13:13
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I would make sure the bushes are lemforder (sp?) as QH ones may not last too long.

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Posted 25th Oct 2009 at 13:56
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It didn't really state which were the problem, just front suspension bushes or something. But I'd probably do all four if I do any.

I've noticed that if I get someone to drive forwards, then reverse, you can see my front wheel move backwards and forwards slightly, is this the P bush?

GSF do stock some lemforder parts don't they, I had a Lemforder drop link from them before now but I had to ask for it.

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Posted 25th Oct 2009 at 14:02
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Yes thats the p bush, very common to fail now as the cars have got older, i buy them from Citroen as you can buy just the bush from them.


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Posted 25th Oct 2009 at 14:31
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That sounds good, how much are the bushes from citroen? and are they easy to change? do you chop the old bush out and heat up the metal then shove the new bush in? can you press them in with a socket and a vice?

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Posted 25th Oct 2009 at 15:47
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cut the old 1 off with a angle grinder and you can tap the new ones on, but you have to position them correctly(at the correct angle)

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Posted 26th Oct 2009 at 12:54
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I've read that about the right angle thing, cheers andy/katie.

Is the other wishbone bush (not the P bush) one piece or two pieces?

Cheers!

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Posted 25th Oct 2009 at 23:57
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What size hubs do you have?? If you have 16mm ball joints then you can get complete wishbones from CES for 30 quid a side or the bushes are roughly 6 quid a piece but i haven't bothered to use them yet so can't comment on hardness

Edit: two round ones at the the front pivot and one p-bush at the rear of each wishbone = four rounds and two p's to do both sides Smile

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Posted 26th Oct 2009 at 02:58
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According to servicebox I've got 18mm hubs?? Sounds quite big?

I'll probably just get the more expensive bushes from GSF tomorrow, but I'll ask them to check what bushes come on the wishbones they stock as well. Cheers matey.

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Posted 26th Oct 2009 at 03:00
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18's work out more expensive because the wishbones and ball joints are only sold seperately much to my disgust because out of all the 306's we've got or had my current rallye and previous six had 18's Roll eyes

Edit - sorry didn't mean to confuse you the size's are in reference to the balljoint sizes - all the bushes are identical across phases

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Posted 26th Oct 2009 at 03:14
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Yeah I knew you meant the ball joint sizes, I think the ones from GSF come without ball joints anyway so I should be alright. I'll see what make the bushes they stock are tomorrow, cheers matey.

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Posted 26th Oct 2009 at 03:31
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A nice upgrade for the P bush is to use one from a 406 or Picaso . Just need to drill out and retap the locator hole on them I believe from 8mm to 10mm.

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motaquip from motaparts.co.uk, dirst cheap and decent quality Smile

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aknight wrote:
A nice upgrade for the P bush is to use one from a 406 or Picaso . Just need to drill out and retap the locator hole on them I believe from 8mm to 10mm.


I was under the impression that these were actually softer, even though the bush was larger.

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adam b wrote:
aknight wrote:
A nice upgrade for the P bush is to use one from a 406 or Picaso . Just need to drill out and retap the locator hole on them I believe from 8mm to 10mm.


I was under the impression that these were actually softer, even though the bush was larger.


Im sure hovis/someone else tried these and said they were crap.

what you want are some nice group n ones like ive got Smug
Posted 26th Oct 2009 at 04:35
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Just decided to buy whole wishbones from GSF, no idea if they're decent quality or not (they said they were.. hmm..) but my old P bushes were bo***cksed!

Cheers for the advice folks, and I'll probably open this topic again if the bushes are shagged in a few months!.

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Posted 27th Oct 2009 at 04:09
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Just replaced mine with complete w.bones from Pug. Not cheap but won't have to replace them anytime soon. I took the old ones off as there was play in the p bush (turned out to be wrecked!) and that in time then caused the front bush to deteriorate.

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Posted 28th Oct 2009 at 23:07
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Same here matt_gti, how much were the wishbones from Pug? My old P-bush was goosed!

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Posted 28th Oct 2009 at 23:07
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you dont want to know.

im sure there over 300 for both sides with balljoints.

im sure euro do the lemforder bones with bushes.
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i think mine from pug came to about

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lotek tried the xsara ones and they worked out to be shite guys

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Posted 30th Oct 2009 at 01:47
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dommo wrote:
Same here matt_gti, how much were the wishbones from Pug? My old P-bush was goosed!


Yeah mine just nearly fell apart!. Without the ball joints the arms were

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hovis16 wrote:
lotek tried the xsara ones and they worked out to be shite guys


He must have bought cheap non-o.e ones as they're exactly the sameConfused

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I got Motaquip ones for not a lot of cash and they seem to be very good Smile

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Posted 10th Nov 2009 at 03:41
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