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Author Subject: reconecting front roll bar
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lol if you dobt mind the cold yeah!!LOL


one sec! let me enter my pug spare parts department ... my wife calls it the lounge! Big grin
Posted 21st Oct 2009 at 05:04
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lol cool thanks.

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Posted 21st Oct 2009 at 05:21
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thats brilliant, thansk mate, i will check its in the right place tmmrw.

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Posted 21st Oct 2009 at 05:24
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well ive put in new arb bushes and also fitted bilsteins at the same time.
it could be a case of i havent tightened the bar in at the right angle or a case of the droplink mount been at a different height on the bilys.
i think i will look into it more before i connect it all up.
thanks everybody


I don't think it is possible to close the clamps if the bushes are not located correctly.

The ARB bushes have a flat bit (and should have a small painted dot to show which way up they go - painted dot on the top - some have the dot some don't as a guide) the flat bit goes on the subframe and the indent fits snug into the clamp indent.
Posted 21st Oct 2009 at 05:25
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it was tight to get the clamps to close, i think the bolt just reached through 1 thread and to get it further i had to spin the bolt clockwise witch wound the clamp down enough for me to get the nut on.

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Posted 21st Oct 2009 at 05:28
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thats brilliant, thansk mate, i will check its in the right place tmmrw.


Pointing out something about suspension to Phillip is like telling Skywalker he might have to constructed his lightsabre wrong Razz

So take my info with some salt!
Posted 21st Oct 2009 at 05:28
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andy+katie wrote:
it was tight to get the clamps to close, i think the bolt just reached through 1 thread and to get it further i had to spin the bolt clockwise witch wound the clamp down enough for me to get the nut on.


hmm sounds like the ARB bush has rotated around as you pushed the clamp down. This then puts the ARB bush 'indents' on the inside and 'outdents' on the outside in the wrong position.

I had the same problem initially and had one thread ... then took it apart sorted it out and it went together easily.
Posted 21st Oct 2009 at 05:31
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well i forgot about the indent on the bush so its good to get an idea again.

philip m`s lightsaver would be better, wavy rosejointed eg

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Posted 21st Oct 2009 at 05:31
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Nah, what you want to do is make some lightweight miniature lightsabers.


Then load the f*ckers into a magazine and take a machine gun, sorted.

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Posted 21st Oct 2009 at 05:33
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if you found it easy enough to get the nut on the bolt then maybe i have got it slightly out.

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Posted 21st Oct 2009 at 05:34
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Slit in the bush should line up pointing forwards on the car, normally.

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Posted 21st Oct 2009 at 05:35
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Then load the f*ckers into a magazine and take a machine gun, sorted.


Use Grazia or OK - they'll never suspect it...Whistle

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Posted 21st Oct 2009 at 05:35
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i thinkk it its facing forwartds, unless its moved out slightly.
i will tackle it again tmmrw, weather permittingBig grin .
thanks again folks!!

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Posted 21st Oct 2009 at 05:37
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i thinkk it its facing forwartds, unless its moved out slightly.


just like the last photo above ... the slit lines up with the front flat bit that bolts into the wishbone bit.

If the clamps are not hooked into the subframe correctly they can also cause the clamps to not close correctly. It is a bit of a nightmare really ... goodluck.

Now where are the additional photos of Katie? Whistle LOL
Posted 21st Oct 2009 at 05:41
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they will be applied the next time i need help LOL

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Posted 21st Oct 2009 at 05:43
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Post #42
Sean's sugestion of loosening the subframe bolts helped but I did not want to use grease incase it deteriorated the rubber. Fairy liquid I think could be a better option.

edit: clearly not! see below ... also forgot i change the front ARB over also. so most likely no need to loosen bolts unless you have limited patience for aligning the ARB bush/clamp/ARB assembly
Posted 21st Oct 2009 at 05:53
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Nah, fairy liquid is full of salt!

A decent CV-joint grease or silicone damper oil would be perfect.

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Posted 21st Oct 2009 at 05:49
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andy+katie wrote:
they will be applied the next time i need help LOL


You might find your car in 1000 bits tomorrow morning Ninja
Posted 21st Oct 2009 at 05:49
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LOL
did you fit a brand new front roll bar to yours?

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Posted 21st Oct 2009 at 05:54
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He did, I put mine in the bin, no f*cking about with bushes now LOL

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Post #47
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LOL
did you fit a new front roll bar to yours?


Yes ... made a world of difference. I think the front ARB makes the biggest difference to the front suspension of all the components changed as it makes the driveability smooth (see link in post #42) ... it made quite an impact quote me 'The Front Arb has refined the car when accelerating, braking, gear changing and cornering whilst reducing small tarmac bumps'.
Posted 21st Oct 2009 at 05:56
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Post #48
ive got a feeling that my arb bushes are upside down.
ive found another pic of a new 1 with the white dot on, and they could be fitted upside down.

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Posted 21st Oct 2009 at 05:56
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'S 'cause it's not binding on the bushes any more, surprising what a little bit of corrosion/wear on the arb bushes can do.

Hmm

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Posted 21st Oct 2009 at 05:57
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how much was the new roll bar? i totally overlooked it as i didnt think it would make a difference.

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