Longmans pp head
Piper 270 cams
Maniflow 4-2-1 manifold
Luminition 45s throttle bodies
kms management
Cheers
Ollie
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Author | Subject: power gains |
pugheaven
Seasoned Pro Location: Fareham Registered: 17 Dec 2006 Posts: 4,602 Status: Offline |
Post #1
Hi i was just wondering what kind of power figures you would expect with the following mods:Longmans pp head Piper 270 cams Maniflow 4-2-1 manifold Luminition 45s throttle bodies kms management Cheers Ollie |
Posted 15th Sep 2009 at 01:11
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pedro_de_la_cruz
Seasoned Pro Location: London Registered: 14 Mar 2007 Posts: 2,555 Status: Offline |
Post #2
210-220bhp @ 7500-odd rpm max id say if mapped by somebody competentpersonally id go for slightly wilder cams than the 270's, 285H's or kent PT81s if your looking for top power on a N/A engine without forging anything ________________________________________ *R.I.P Pete Sims* |
Posted 15th Sep 2009 at 01:16
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pugheaven
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Post #3
what if they were 285 cams?Cheers Ollie |
Posted 15th Sep 2009 at 01:16
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pugheaven
Seasoned Pro Location: Fareham Registered: 17 Dec 2006 Posts: 4,602 Status: Offline |
Post #4
sorry i ment bhpand what would the torque figures be like? Ta |
Posted 15th Sep 2009 at 01:18
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pedro_de_la_cruz
Seasoned Pro Location: London Registered: 14 Mar 2007 Posts: 2,555 Status: Offline |
Post #5
pugheaven wrote: what if they were 285 cams? Cheers Ollie 285's or 285H? ________________________________________ *R.I.P Pete Sims* |
Posted 15th Sep 2009 at 01:18
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pugheaven
Seasoned Pro Location: Fareham Registered: 17 Dec 2006 Posts: 4,602 Status: Offline |
Post #6
are h the angry ones lol |
Posted 15th Sep 2009 at 01:19
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brett-black-rallye
Senior User Location: felixstowe Registered: 28 Aug 2007 Posts: 573 Status: Offline |
Post #7
285's need pocketed pistons apparently |
Posted 15th Sep 2009 at 01:20
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pugheaven
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Post #8
Am i correct in saying i will need pocketed pistons for the 285h? |
Posted 15th Sep 2009 at 01:20
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pugheaven
Seasoned Pro Location: Fareham Registered: 17 Dec 2006 Posts: 4,602 Status: Offline |
Post #9
too slow you beat me too it |
Posted 15th Sep 2009 at 01:20
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pugheaven
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Post #10
Brett i wish i had asked you before about your cams. |
Posted 15th Sep 2009 at 01:21
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brett-black-rallye
Senior User Location: felixstowe Registered: 28 Aug 2007 Posts: 573 Status: Offline |
Post #11
285h's are milder than the 285 but you still need piston work. 270's are the only safe ones |
Posted 15th Sep 2009 at 01:30
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pugheaven
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Post #12
iv just been on the piper site.they say |
Posted 15th Sep 2009 at 01:43
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brett-black-rallye
Senior User Location: felixstowe Registered: 28 Aug 2007 Posts: 573 Status: Offline |
Post #13
yeah thats for both, are you selling your 270h's then for more powerful cams? |
Posted 15th Sep 2009 at 01:55
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cjm_harris
Seasoned Pro Location: Parts for Sale section Registered: 04 Dec 2007 Posts: 7,442 Status: Offline |
Post #14
brett-black-rallye wrote: yeah thats for both, are you selling your 270h's then for more powerful cams? Don't you already have cams? If you look to sell pugheaven, let me know ________________________________________ Chris1999 China Gti6 Supercharged [Fun car] >>Project Thread<< 2000 Bianca 306 Diesel [Work runabout] |
Posted 15th Sep 2009 at 02:17
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pugheaven
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Post #15
thinkin about it mate just got bodies and kms just want to see how much i would gain from 285 or 285h as i would have to get pocketed pistons or forged |
Posted 15th Sep 2009 at 02:18
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pugheaven
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Post #16
Any one have an idea on power gains if i go for 285s with pocketed pistons?What will drivability be like? Thanks |
Posted 29th Sep 2009 at 02:02
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gtomi-6
Seasoned Pro Location: southampton Registered: 16 Jan 2009 Posts: 1,136 Status: Offline |
Post #17
ollie, how much of a difference did the 270h's make. i want to cam the car and then eventually next year go for throttle boddies. but at the moment i wnat cams and want to get the right ones.ive actually met you before. you had the astor grey 6 with pug performance sunstrip didnt you?________________________________________ ph3 gti-6 china blue- mint conditionph2 gti-6 nile blue K.I.A dec 2010 |
Posted 30th Sep 2009 at 00:37
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pugheaven
Seasoned Pro Location: Fareham Registered: 17 Dec 2006 Posts: 4,602 Status: Offline |
Post #18
its cossack grey, but yes thats me.No bullshit but it makes one hell of a difference, My mate brought a uk spec evo and my car killed it, so much so he put it up for sale the day after!! standard scoobies, integra type r jdm the list goes on. Had a m3 owner pull me over after i had a little play, he didnt like the fact my 200hp 306 did his m3(it was a soft top so a bit more weight) I would say ill take you out in it but its been at station body shop since 17th june!!! |
Posted 30th Sep 2009 at 03:13
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pugheaven
Seasoned Pro Location: Fareham Registered: 17 Dec 2006 Posts: 4,602 Status: Offline |
Post #19
but it could just be the driver lol.worked at a karting track for 5 years and what not so i think i can drive. my cams might be up for sale soon and they only have -10k on em. |
Posted 30th Sep 2009 at 02:47
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gtomi-6
Seasoned Pro Location: southampton Registered: 16 Jan 2009 Posts: 1,136 Status: Offline |
Post #20
serriously worth it then? i will be coupling them with. gas flowed head, maniflow manifold, magnex full system and decat, pipercross viper lightened flywheel.my engine has only done about 40k on the new engine________________________________________ ph3 gti-6 china blue- mint conditionph2 gti-6 nile blue K.I.A dec 2010 |
Posted 30th Sep 2009 at 03:20
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gtomi-6
Seasoned Pro Location: southampton Registered: 16 Jan 2009 Posts: 1,136 Status: Offline |
Post #21
last tiem i saw you i stopped you for a quick chat asking about pug performance. in the car park of those new flats opposite harvester in fareham. i herd you smashed it________________________________________ ph3 gti-6 china blue- mint conditionph2 gti-6 nile blue K.I.A dec 2010 |
Posted 30th Sep 2009 at 03:22
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roland rat
Yeeeah Rat fans! Location: Swansea Registered: 29 Nov 2006 Posts: 22,284 Status: Offline |
Post #22
pugheaven wrote: Had a m3 owner pull me over after i had a little play, he didnt like the fact my 200hp 306 did his m3(it was a soft top so a bit more weight) he wasn't trying then id say your looking at 220 bhp max with the cams and pistons.takes alot of work to get good results out of n/a tuned Xu10's |
Posted 30th Sep 2009 at 03:25
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pugheaven
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Post #23
he was mate thats the funny thing, was a m reg with 150k on it. And it was on my local b road that i know very well. |
Posted 30th Sep 2009 at 03:37
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pugheaven
Seasoned Pro Location: Fareham Registered: 17 Dec 2006 Posts: 4,602 Status: Offline |
Post #24
no not smashed it just doin a bit of work on it and payin of debt. Its gettin the inside sprayed, well ment to be when they start it. |
Posted 30th Sep 2009 at 03:39
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pugheaven
Seasoned Pro Location: Fareham Registered: 17 Dec 2006 Posts: 4,602 Status: Offline |
Post #25
will be the same as mine was then. Worth every penny. |
Posted 30th Sep 2009 at 03:41
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