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 saveloy
Newbie  Location: london Registered: 21 Jun 2009 Posts: 47 Status: Offline |
Post #76
Lovely looking calipers, granted.But given the piston sizes, they are far too small for the intended application. I wouldn't entertain anything with less than 40mm pistons. Surely those calipers were only used on the rears of TVRs. |
 Posted 11th Oct 2009 at 02:16
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SteviePut
Seasoned Pro  Location: Down south Registered: 20 Oct 2005 Posts: 13,637 Status: Offline |
Post #77
rob&the6 wrote: thats easily sorted you just remove the nips and fit the pipe on the otherside of the caliper and the nips on that side. Or just fit the calipers on the right side of the car  ________________________________________ My old man wrote me a letter from prison once. It said if you don't want to end up in here, stay away from crime, women and drugs. Trouble is, that don't leave you much else to do, does it? |
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Posted 11th Oct 2009 at 02:18
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phillipm
Seasoned Pro  Location: Rotherham Registered: 15 Oct 2006 Posts: 20,607 Status: Offline |
Post #78
saveloy wrote: Lovely looking calipers, granted. But given the piston sizes, they are far too small for the intended application. I wouldn't entertain anything with less than 40mm pistons. Surely those calipers were only used on the rears of TVRs. If they're the same size as normal 6600 calipers then they're a spot-on match And I'd imagine the calipers are that way around because the bleed nipples + crossover pipes need swapping over. ________________________________________ - Bespoke rollcages/additions/adjustments. Half cages right up to complete custom spaceframes - MSA/FIA spec, CDS, ROPT, T45, etc - PM meEmail me! Custom-made polybushes available - need an odd size or fitment? - anything from batch work to one-off pieces. |
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Posted 11th Oct 2009 at 02:25
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phillipm
Seasoned Pro Location: Rotherham Registered: 15 Oct 2006 Posts: 20,607 Status: Offline |
Post #79
SteviePut wrote: Or just fit the calipers on the right side of the car Technical hiccup there, have a closer look at the photo's  ________________________________________ - Bespoke rollcages/additions/adjustments. Half cages right up to complete custom spaceframes - MSA/FIA spec, CDS, ROPT, T45, etc - PM meEmail me! Custom-made polybushes available - need an odd size or fitment? - anything from batch work to one-off pieces. |
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Posted 11th Oct 2009 at 02:26
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SteviePut
Seasoned Pro Location: Down south Registered: 20 Oct 2005 Posts: 13,637 Status: Offline |
Post #80
phillipm wrote: SteviePut wrote: Or just fit the calipers on the right side of the car Technical hiccup there, have a closer look at the photo's  Other than TVR would be the wrong way up if you fitted them on the other side of car. Or would they??  ________________________________________ My old man wrote me a letter from prison once. It said if you don't want to end up in here, stay away from crime, women and drugs. Trouble is, that don't leave you much else to do, does it? |
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Posted 11th Oct 2009 at 02:34
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phillipm
Seasoned Pro Location: Rotherham Registered: 15 Oct 2006 Posts: 20,607 Status: Offline |
Post #81
Nah, keep trying, someone's spotted it surely?________________________________________ - Bespoke rollcages/additions/adjustments. Half cages right up to complete custom spaceframes - MSA/FIA spec, CDS, ROPT, T45, etc - PM meEmail me! Custom-made polybushes available - need an odd size or fitment? - anything from batch work to one-off pieces. |
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Posted 11th Oct 2009 at 02:37
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rage buggy
Newbie Location: dunstable Registered: 09 Apr 2009 Posts: 32 Status: Offline |
Post #82
saveloy wrote: Lovely looking calipers, granted. But given the piston sizes, they are far too small for the intended application. I wouldn't entertain anything with less than 40mm pistons. Surely those calipers were only used on the rears of TVRs. these calipers have two different sized pistons and with a 55mm x 125mm pad area with 335mm discs they will be excellent  |
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Posted 11th Oct 2009 at 02:40
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saveloy
Newbie Location: london Registered: 21 Jun 2009 Posts: 47 Status: Offline |
Post #83
phillipm wrote: saveloy wrote: Lovely looking calipers, granted. But given the piston sizes, they are far too small for the intended application. I wouldn't entertain anything with less than 40mm pistons. Surely those calipers were only used on the rears of TVRs. If they're the same size as normal 6600 calipers then they're a spot-on match And I'd imagine the calipers are that way around because the bleed nipples + crossover pipes need swapping over. No way. Perhaps on a TVR they'd be fine, since they are far lighter than a 306. But they simply won't be powerful enough on a 306. You would need to offset that with huge discs. And wheels! I used 4 pots on my 205 GTI, and they had 4 x 38.6mm pots. Wonderful stopping power. Overkill perhaps, but what's the point of having 4 pots otherwise?! I wouldn't go any smaller on a car that's over 300 kgs heavier. |
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Posted 11th Oct 2009 at 02:48
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phillipm
Seasoned Pro Location: Rotherham Registered: 15 Oct 2006 Posts: 20,607 Status: Offline |
Post #84
CP6600 standard piston sizes are ~ 38mm and 41mm...________________________________________ - Bespoke rollcages/additions/adjustments. Half cages right up to complete custom spaceframes - MSA/FIA spec, CDS, ROPT, T45, etc - PM meEmail me! Custom-made polybushes available - need an odd size or fitment? - anything from batch work to one-off pieces. |
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Posted 11th Oct 2009 at 02:50
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SteviePut
Seasoned Pro Location: Down south Registered: 20 Oct 2005 Posts: 13,637 Status: Offline |
Post #85
saveloy wrote: phillipm wrote: saveloy wrote: Lovely looking calipers, granted. But given the piston sizes, they are far too small for the intended application. I wouldn't entertain anything with less than 40mm pistons. Surely those calipers were only used on the rears of TVRs. If they're the same size as normal 6600 calipers then they're a spot-on match And I'd imagine the calipers are that way around because the bleed nipples + crossover pipes need swapping over. No way. Perhaps on a TVR they'd be fine, since they are far lighter than a 306. But they simply won't be powerful enough on a 306. You would need to offset that with huge discs. And wheels! I used 4 pots on my 205 GTI, and they had 4 x 38.6mm pots. Wonderful stopping power. Overkill perhaps, but what's the point of having 4 pots otherwise?! I wouldn't go any smaller on a car that's over 300 kgs heavier. Which TVR weighs only 900kgs? ________________________________________ My old man wrote me a letter from prison once. It said if you don't want to end up in here, stay away from crime, women and drugs. Trouble is, that don't leave you much else to do, does it? |
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Posted 11th Oct 2009 at 02:50
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phillipm
Seasoned Pro Location: Rotherham Registered: 15 Oct 2006 Posts: 20,607 Status: Offline |
Post #86
My bad, just noticed the different piston sizes on the first page.Even then the disc size or a simple swap down to an S16 master cylinder would probably sort that out... ________________________________________ - Bespoke rollcages/additions/adjustments. Half cages right up to complete custom spaceframes - MSA/FIA spec, CDS, ROPT, T45, etc - PM meEmail me! Custom-made polybushes available - need an odd size or fitment? - anything from batch work to one-off pieces. |
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Posted 11th Oct 2009 at 02:56
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saveloy
Newbie Location: london Registered: 21 Jun 2009 Posts: 47 Status: Offline |
Post #87
38mm and 41mm! Now that's more like it. With a large disc it will give very good stopping power. And won't lengthen the pedal too much.The 900 kg I was referring to is the weight of a 205 GTI. You'll need to remove that allen headed bolt from the bell! |
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Posted 11th Oct 2009 at 02:56
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SteviePut
Seasoned Pro Location: Down south Registered: 20 Oct 2005 Posts: 13,637 Status: Offline |
Post #88
phillipm wrote: Nah, keep trying, someone's spotted it surely? Disc's are on the wrong side of the car? ________________________________________ My old man wrote me a letter from prison once. It said if you don't want to end up in here, stay away from crime, women and drugs. Trouble is, that don't leave you much else to do, does it? |
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Posted 11th Oct 2009 at 02:57
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phillipm
Seasoned Pro Location: Rotherham Registered: 15 Oct 2006 Posts: 20,607 Status: Offline |
Post #89
Nope, keep trying, good spot though, I hadn't noticed ________________________________________ - Bespoke rollcages/additions/adjustments. Half cages right up to complete custom spaceframes - MSA/FIA spec, CDS, ROPT, T45, etc - PM meEmail me! Custom-made polybushes available - need an odd size or fitment? - anything from batch work to one-off pieces. |
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Posted 11th Oct 2009 at 03:01
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rage buggy
Newbie Location: dunstable Registered: 09 Apr 2009 Posts: 32 Status: Offline |
Post #90
saveloy wrote: 38mm and 41mm! Now that's more like it. With a large disc it will give very good stopping power. And won't lengthen the pedal too much. The 900 kg I was referring to is the weight of a 205 GTI. You'll need to remove that allen headed bolt from the bell! you need to look at the last picture  |
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Posted 11th Oct 2009 at 02:59
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SteviePut
Seasoned Pro Location: Down south Registered: 20 Oct 2005 Posts: 13,637 Status: Offline |
Post #91
I give up________________________________________ My old man wrote me a letter from prison once. It said if you don't want to end up in here, stay away from crime, women and drugs. Trouble is, that don't leave you much else to do, does it? |
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Posted 11th Oct 2009 at 03:06
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phillipm
Seasoned Pro Location: Rotherham Registered: 15 Oct 2006 Posts: 20,607 Status: Offline |
Post #92
I'll see if anyone else spots it. ________________________________________ - Bespoke rollcages/additions/adjustments. Half cages right up to complete custom spaceframes - MSA/FIA spec, CDS, ROPT, T45, etc - PM meEmail me! Custom-made polybushes available - need an odd size or fitment? - anything from batch work to one-off pieces. |
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Posted 11th Oct 2009 at 03:07
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SteviePut
Seasoned Pro Location: Down south Registered: 20 Oct 2005 Posts: 13,637 Status: Offline |
Post #93
You're not referring to how the car has been jacked up are you? Surely not??________________________________________ My old man wrote me a letter from prison once. It said if you don't want to end up in here, stay away from crime, women and drugs. Trouble is, that don't leave you much else to do, does it? |
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Posted 11th Oct 2009 at 03:12
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phillipm
Seasoned Pro Location: Rotherham Registered: 15 Oct 2006 Posts: 20,607 Status: Offline |
Post #94
Nope, it's the calipers.________________________________________ - Bespoke rollcages/additions/adjustments. Half cages right up to complete custom spaceframes - MSA/FIA spec, CDS, ROPT, T45, etc - PM meEmail me! Custom-made polybushes available - need an odd size or fitment? - anything from batch work to one-off pieces. |
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Posted 11th Oct 2009 at 03:25
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SteviePut
Seasoned Pro Location: Down south Registered: 20 Oct 2005 Posts: 13,637 Status: Offline |
Post #95
IF they have different size pistons should one always be the leading one (maybe the smaller one of the two??) Is that issue?? ________________________________________ My old man wrote me a letter from prison once. It said if you don't want to end up in here, stay away from crime, women and drugs. Trouble is, that don't leave you much else to do, does it? |
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Posted 11th Oct 2009 at 03:27
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phillipm
Seasoned Pro Location: Rotherham Registered: 15 Oct 2006 Posts: 20,607 Status: Offline |
Post #96
 That's why the bleed nipples are upside down and need swapping over rather than the calipers just swapping from one side to the other... ________________________________________ - Bespoke rollcages/additions/adjustments. Half cages right up to complete custom spaceframes - MSA/FIA spec, CDS, ROPT, T45, etc - PM meEmail me! Custom-made polybushes available - need an odd size or fitment? - anything from batch work to one-off pieces. |
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Posted 11th Oct 2009 at 03:30
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SteviePut
Seasoned Pro Location: Down south Registered: 20 Oct 2005 Posts: 13,637 Status: Offline |
Post #97
phillipm wrote: That's why the bleed nipples are upside down and need swapping over rather than the calipers just swapping from one side to the other... Thank f*ck for that  ________________________________________ My old man wrote me a letter from prison once. It said if you don't want to end up in here, stay away from crime, women and drugs. Trouble is, that don't leave you much else to do, does it? |
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Posted 11th Oct 2009 at 03:32
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SteviePut
Seasoned Pro Location: Down south Registered: 20 Oct 2005 Posts: 13,637 Status: Offline |
Post #98
I assume TVR's have the calipers mounted at 180 degree's to Peugoets? ________________________________________ My old man wrote me a letter from prison once. It said if you don't want to end up in here, stay away from crime, women and drugs. Trouble is, that don't leave you much else to do, does it? |
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Posted 11th Oct 2009 at 03:33
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phillipm
Seasoned Pro Location: Rotherham Registered: 15 Oct 2006 Posts: 20,607 Status: Offline |
Post #99
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Posted 11th Oct 2009 at 03:35
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SteviePut
Seasoned Pro Location: Down south Registered: 20 Oct 2005 Posts: 13,637 Status: Offline |
Post #100
Is there any advantage to that Phil? Or is it just a packaging thing??________________________________________ My old man wrote me a letter from prison once. It said if you don't want to end up in here, stay away from crime, women and drugs. Trouble is, that don't leave you much else to do, does it? |
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Posted 11th Oct 2009 at 03:36
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