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mxcrazy

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Post #101
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That's it Rich, still trying to do this on a budget lol!

Nah mine isn't, I be making my own loom to suit the car, although I believe he does do that for a number of different cars.


Had a look at m-techs website, is thier ECU not the megasquirt system just pieced together? little confused really. Im going to be after a menagement system some time this year and these M-tech pieces are very well priced. thanks
Posted 5th Jan 2010 at 17:25
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Post #102
It is to a degree. Matt has made the software very usable though, and like you say the price is very good. Once it's on and mapped I'll let you know the results.

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Posted 5th Jan 2010 at 18:37
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Post #103
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It is to a degree. Matt has made the software very usable though, and like you say the price is very good. Once it's on and mapped I'll let you know the results.


Oh right ok, sounds good, thanks
Posted 6th Jan 2010 at 03:52
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Post #104
Got a bit more done this weekend, fitted the oil cooler kit, cage now goes out to the front struts, and the two looms for the front of the car have been started, including making new holes in the bulkhead for them to come out of. Rear loom is now complete, braided and terminated! Pics below:








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Posted 10th Jan 2010 at 23:38
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Post #105
How can i get 2 degree's + of front camber, don't mind having to cut bits as it's a track car, but really want about 2 - 2.5 deg.

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Posted 21st Jan 2010 at 14:49
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Post #106
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How can i get 2 degree's + of front camber, don't mind having to cut bits as it's a track car, but really want about 2 - 2.5 deg.

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extened wishbones, eccentric/adjustable top mounts.


Posted 21st Jan 2010 at 15:30
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Post #107
Why only 2 degrees? You can do it a number of ways as Lotek said, new lower arms, remove the strut tops and fabricate new ones to sit further in, and use eccentric topmounts, or a combination of the lot. Personally I'm going to move the strut tops over.

Pads are here too Lotek if you're nearby today.

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Posted 21st Jan 2010 at 15:49
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i shall give ya a call if im able to come up Thumbs up
Posted 21st Jan 2010 at 16:04
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Post #109
Thanks, can you explain to me about moving the top mount over, do you just elongate the holes ? Would you not need to strengthin it somehow?

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Posted 21st Jan 2010 at 18:16
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Post #110
On my dimma the top mount has been moved over and a plate used to keep it steady, will get a pic of it later when i take the engine out of it.

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Posted 21st Jan 2010 at 18:30
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Post #111
Well a crude way would be to do that, or get a new strut top strengthening plate welded on and drilled to suit. You can then use an eccentric topmount to adjust it all as required.

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Posted 21st Jan 2010 at 18:57
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Post #112
Been a while since I've updated this, finally finished all the wiring, car now runs on the M-Tech base map, front suspension and topmounts fitted, Helix 6 paddel clutch, Rich W flywheel & lower arms and Tranx LSD fitted, car is now ready for rolling road. Loads of other bits made/fitted also!




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Posted 4th Mar 2010 at 04:09
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Post #113
You have the same issue with your sleeve nuts on your coilovers as I did when I got mine, not enough thread before hitting the shoulder so you can't get the nut threaded all the way down, not good.

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Posted 4th Mar 2010 at 05:40
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Post #114
Yeah it's not ideal, but will suffice, it's still got 13mm of thread used... If I drill the spring cup out anymore it will slide up further and rub on the topmount. Even if I did this I'd only gain another 4-5mm. How did you get around yours in the end?

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Posted 4th Mar 2010 at 04:23
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Post #115
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Yeah it's not ideal, but will suffice, it's still got 13mm of thread used... If I drill the spring cup out anymore it will slide up further and rub on the topmount. Even if I did this I'd only gain another 4-5mm. How did you get around yours in the end?


I sent the buggers back and they turned down the shoulder on the damper shaft by a further 10mm (I asked the c*nts to do this first time around as I had a feeling it would'nt be long enough, took them weeks to get it right but they got there in the end) which you really want to do as the nut is quite weak as it is. It's tough to explain but the sleeve part of the nut is very weak and is only there to locate the rod, the thicker 'nut' part at the top is the bit that does all the work and it is'nt bieng used. You really don't want the sleeve part of the nut coming off as it's all thats holding your shock in place.

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Posted 4th Mar 2010 at 05:38
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Post #116
All makes sense, I'll try it as it is for now, my VTS was like that and did a few thousand miles on the road with no issues!

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Posted 4th Mar 2010 at 17:00
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Post #117
Had the car mapped today, made 172 bhp and 162 lb/ft torque.

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Posted 10th Mar 2010 at 02:06
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Post #118
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Had the car mapped today, made 172 bhp and 162 lb/ft torque.


Healthy enough mate, where was that done by the way?

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Posted 10th Mar 2010 at 22:56
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mxcrazy

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Post #119
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Had the car mapped today, made 172 bhp and 162 lb/ft torque.


What is the full engine spec? Sounds like a healthy gain in torque but id have thought the BHP would have been higher, even on stock cams.
Posted 10th Mar 2010 at 23:00
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Post #120
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As above. Just not connected up yet.


got any piccys of it all connect with the catch tank. is it to prevent oil surge or something like that while cornering?

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Posted 10th Mar 2010 at 23:05
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Post #121
Matt @ M-Tech did the mapping, he did a great job, we weren't going to get any more from the engine in it's current state that's for sure!

Engine is just the original 100,000 mile old lump, it's a lot more driveable now, will do until funds allow a re-build with some new pistons and cams.

Mocal unit is just a breather tank, if you look in the last two photos I posted you can see how it's plumbed in. The hose on the cam cover normally goes in the inlet manifold, which due to running the Jenveys now goes straight to the tank, it vents to atmosphere through the lid.

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Posted 11th Mar 2010 at 00:34
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Post #122
pdd144c: hello, where you bought the ATS DTC

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Posted 13th Mar 2010 at 22:13
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Post #123
I got them direct from Domenico @ ATS, we can supply them in the UK if needed.

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Posted 14th Mar 2010 at 16:50
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Post #124
bo***cks, you beat me to the ATS DTC's! Could you let me know what you paid as I need a few sets, and also did you weigh them before putting a tyre on them?

Are you running arch liners? Just I wouldn't fancy putting my oil cooler there if not, only one small stone away from engine failure!

Is the rest of the engine standard then? There never have been great gains to be had from throtle bodies as the inlets prett good for a standard one.

Looks lke a nice build anyway, good luck with it, do you know what series you're racing in?

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Posted 14th Mar 2010 at 15:17
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pdd144c:These are 15X7? ET20?
What was the price?
link to the page where you bought them?
thank you....

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Posted 14th Mar 2010 at 15:52
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