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Author | Subject: stripped teeth off cambelt |
thorgti6
Newbie Location: canterbury Registered: 07 Jan 2009 Posts: 21 Status: Offline |
Post #1
last night my poorly agean blue gti6 died, driving along at 40ish it lost all power, after 3 hours of waiting at -4c (nice one rac) i've discovered the teeth have come off the cambelt at the bottom pulley (only done 30k since last belt change), this is gonna take some head work no doubt, but there is a possibility I've got away with it, has any one else had this problem? did you get away with it? if not, is it cheaper to rebuild or get a recon head, engines only done 70k so would rather keep it then replace with an ebay whole engine, bloody french cars are a pain in the arse, but its wicked fun! |
Posted 7th Jan 2009 at 19:35
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jonnie205
Seasoned Pro Location: Bicester Registered: 10 Apr 2005 Posts: 4,146 Status: Offline |
Post #2
depends how mechanically mided you are, if you have the skill to swap and engine over then yes buy a used engine and swap em over. Your car will have bent valves |
Posted 7th Jan 2009 at 19:38
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sacko_gti6
Seasoned Pro Location: Kent Registered: 12 May 2008 Posts: 4,783 Status: Offline |
Post #3
There are a couple of good heads in the for sale section i think .Best off lookin in their first to be honest, I would have presumed you have bent valves. ________________________________________ Build Date - 30 September 1997 - Tuesday's car..is full of pace? |
Posted 7th Jan 2009 at 19:41
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thorgti6
Newbie Location: canterbury Registered: 07 Jan 2009 Posts: 21 Status: Offline |
Post #4
cheers guys, guess i'd better get searchin'! I'm happy with a spanner and have many mechanicy mates! theres a recon head on ebay @ |
Posted 7th Jan 2009 at 19:58
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sacko_gti6
Seasoned Pro Location: Kent Registered: 12 May 2008 Posts: 4,783 Status: Offline |
Post #5
Buying heads of ebay Pay a bit more and get a good one off here, at least you will know its history then. ________________________________________ Build Date - 30 September 1997 - Tuesday's car..is full of pace? |
Posted 7th Jan 2009 at 19:59
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roland rat
Yeeeah Rat fans! Location: Swansea Registered: 29 Nov 2006 Posts: 22,284 Status: Offline |
Post #6
theres a nice longmans reconditoned head in the for sale section of the club mate,check it out! |
Posted 7th Jan 2009 at 23:21
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buzzbrightyear
Seasoned Pro Location: hiding all receipts for car Registered: 09 Jul 2008 Posts: 11,901 Status: Offline |
Post #7
id rather pay 350 off carl and know its gonna be sound than pay 275 off e bay, its hit and miss lately ebay________________________________________ andrew315rawson@live.co.ukMoonstone phase 7 gti6 My Project thread: http://www.306gti6.com/forum/showthread.php?id=119992&page=1 |
Posted 7th Jan 2009 at 23:35
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deepakg
Junior User Location: Somewhere Registered: 27 Dec 2008 Posts: 54 Status: Offline |
Post #8
i'd check how much it is to get it fixed. can't be much more than another head i think. plus you have the advantage of keeping the original head that came with the car! |
Posted 8th Jan 2009 at 00:56
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thorgti6
Newbie Location: canterbury Registered: 07 Jan 2009 Posts: 21 Status: Offline |
Post #9
indeed! I thought it would just be a case of replacing valves, guides etc, ie any thing damaged, but everyone just says replace head, replace engine, i agree dude, i'de rather keep the head and replace wots f*cked, i thought there might be some mystical mechanical voodoo reason why i cant, but surly a pressure test of the head and some new guts should do the job.? |
Posted 8th Jan 2009 at 01:09
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stan_306gti6
Forum Admin Location: Kent Registered: 18 Jan 2004 Posts: 21,768 Status: Offline |
Post #10
thorgti6 wrote: surly a pressure test of the head and some new guts should do the job.? Certainly will, make sure the guides are all undamaged (they are normally ok) and check EVERY VALVE, by removing them and spinning them up in a drill. Any suspect ones replace, even if they have the slightest of wobbles. Lap in the new valves and you should be good to go. Stan. ________________________________________ "Supercharged - 454.1bhp/317.5lb/ft"Peugeot 306 GTi-6 2000 (X), Moonstone |
Posted 9th Jan 2009 at 00:40
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deepakg
Junior User Location: Somewhere Registered: 27 Dec 2008 Posts: 54 Status: Offline |
Post #11
stan_306gti6 wrote: thorgti6 wrote: surly a pressure test of the head and some new guts should do the job.? Certainly will, make sure the guides are all undamaged (they are normally ok) and check EVERY VALVE, by removing them and spinning them up in a drill. Any suspect ones replace, even if they have the slightest of wobbles. Lap in the new valves and you should be good to go. Stan. have to agree with stan here. make sure of every valve and guide, take no chances! also replace with original peugeot bits as i've heard some horror stories when pattern parts were used... |
Posted 9th Jan 2009 at 04:58
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thorgti6
Newbie Location: canterbury Registered: 07 Jan 2009 Posts: 21 Status: Offline |
Post #12
Oh Dear, just had the compression test done, and it shows absolutly no pressure wot so ever, chap said he's never seen this before, should at least be somthing, but needle doesn't move at all. we're getting a differant comp' tester tomorrow just incase this ones shot, but not lookin good, cheers for the help peeps! |
Posted 4th Feb 2009 at 23:29
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stan_306gti6
Forum Admin Location: Kent Registered: 18 Jan 2004 Posts: 21,768 Status: Offline |
Post #13
Any news on this one?? ________________________________________ "Supercharged - 454.1bhp/317.5lb/ft"Peugeot 306 GTi-6 2000 (X), Moonstone |
Posted 7th Feb 2009 at 22:23
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gtichalkie
Junior User Location: ashbourne Registered: 18 Dec 2008 Posts: 59 Status: Offline |
Post #14
Repace them all and bang it back together! Or If I were you I would send it away and have it rebuild ported and polish the put it back on for about 400 returned you can get yourself head ready done from a place near birmingham I see if I can find it for you.________________________________________ If in doubt Flat out |
Posted 8th Feb 2009 at 15:48
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chas
Seasoned Pro Location: Warwickshire Registered: 31 Oct 2007 Posts: 1,468 Status: Offline |
Post #15
Even if it is a tapper, you should get some compression unless you've holed the pistons etc.________________________________________ Ex Owner of 2000 Phase 3 306 GTi 6 China Blue - You shall be missed1974 Triumph Stag 1989 Peugeot 205 GTi 1.6 2003 Alfa Romeo 147 JTD Lusso 2005 Mondeo Ghia X 3.0 Estate LPG |
Posted 9th Feb 2009 at 15:08
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welshpug!
Capt Pedantic Location: Bigend, Wales. Registered: 27 Mar 2007 Posts: 25,839 Status: Offline |
Post #16
not if you have VERY bent valves.________________________________________ need a part number? get on here - http://public.servicebox.peugeot.comBring on the Trumpets. |
Posted 9th Feb 2009 at 15:17
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thorgti6
Newbie Location: canterbury Registered: 07 Jan 2009 Posts: 21 Status: Offline |
Post #17
Still havn't done it, just tryin to put the cash together! she will live again! its been opened up and all the valves are Very bent (exactly like welshpugs pic infact!) all the pistons are marked up wher the valves hit, most of them are allright, one could really be changed as its mashed in the valve clearnce bit, so will prob' change the lot, would like to have it all lightened and balanced, but on a minimal bugetgonna swap the head for a recon and do a few other bits to the car while its off road (bushes, brakes, needs 2 tires, drivers window mechanism, tidy up some paint work etc) will post some pics wen i work out how! cheers |
Posted 25th Jun 2009 at 23:14
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thorgti6
Newbie Location: canterbury Registered: 07 Jan 2009 Posts: 21 Status: Offline |
Post #18
also, looks like something got wedged between the bottom pulley and the lip along the bottom of the block, the pulley is a two part with a rubber 'damper' between the two parts, this pulley has rotated a bit disaligning it with the TDC lock off holes. but whatever happened down there has gotta be the cause of the belt loosing some teeth |
Posted 25th Jun 2009 at 23:22
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thorgti6
Newbie Location: canterbury Registered: 07 Jan 2009 Posts: 21 Status: Offline |
Post #19
She' alive! and feels so quick! i love my 6! in the end we got a second hand engine from a xsara, swapped some sensors, went together nicley, very few problems, thought the clutch might be differant with the xsara being a 5 speed but it was identical, which was nice. needed a new aircon pump, got one for 40 from 306CITY which turns out is a couple of villages away from me, nice chap, specialises in 306's and has a couple of gti6's breaking. |
Posted 14th Oct 2009 at 16:11
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thorgti6
Newbie Location: canterbury Registered: 07 Jan 2009 Posts: 21 Status: Offline |
Post #20
also still got my old engine,rebuild and massivley uprate i think...... |
Posted 14th Oct 2009 at 16:13
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