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 24seven
Seasoned Pro  Location: Derby Registered: 05 Oct 2005 Posts: 6,221 Status: Offline |
Post #1
Can someone take a picture of one for me please? just found the actuator rattling on mine with the compensator seized in the fully on position (ie fully compensating for extra weight). I think there's a spring missing from around the actuator, but would like a picture of a working setup to compare, if possible. Cheers. ________________________________________ Ph1 306 GTi 6 | RX8 231 S1 | YBR 125 Cafe Racer | MT-03 660 |
 Posted 17th Jul 2008 at 01:26
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midlife
Seasoned Pro  Location: Colne, Lancashire Registered: 13 Mar 2006 Posts: 7,544 Status: Offline |
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  ________________________________________ Get used to seeing the yellow one !!! Team 330™ Team "no front end or engine" Team "LIMITED EDITION" I live for the 306 sticker  Team 0-60 in 6.44 & standing qtr in 14.808 @ 94.55mph all with std engine 203bhp Corolla T-Sport daily driver stealthier than Kwai Chang Caine |
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Posted 17th Jul 2008 at 02:00
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24seven
Seasoned Pro Location: Derby Registered: 05 Oct 2005 Posts: 6,221 Status: Offline |
Post #3
hmm. looks exactly as mine did. I unseized it and took the actuator off completely, because there was nothing returning it to the off position, and as it goes over bumps it would only end up being sat on full anyway.there's a big spring pushing the valve into the fuly on position, and a smaller spring pulling it the same way, but I can't see anythin to move it to the off position when the back of the car is unloaded. ________________________________________ Ph1 306 GTi 6 | RX8 231 S1 | YBR 125 Cafe Racer | MT-03 660 |
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Posted 17th Jul 2008 at 02:12
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midlife
Seasoned Pro Location: Colne, Lancashire Registered: 13 Mar 2006 Posts: 7,544 Status: Offline |
Post #4
Its the nut on the end of the shaft at the rhs that moves it to "the off position"________________________________________ Get used to seeing the yellow one !!!Team 330™ Team "no front end or engine" Team "LIMITED EDITION" I live for the 306 sticker Team 0-60 in 6.44 & standing qtr in 14.808 @ 94.55mph all with std engine 203bhp Corolla T-Sport daily driver stealthier than Kwai Chang Caine |
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Posted 17th Jul 2008 at 02:15
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24seven
Seasoned Pro Location: Derby Registered: 05 Oct 2005 Posts: 6,221 Status: Offline |
Post #5
wouldn't it make sense for that nut to be against the other side of the arm when the spring is fully decompressed then? Mine was fully decompressed, with the suspension sitting high (the back of my car seems to ride unusually high for some reason) and it was rattling around, not operating at all.________________________________________ Ph1 306 GTi 6 | RX8 231 S1 | YBR 125 Cafe Racer | MT-03 660 |
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Posted 17th Jul 2008 at 02:20
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welshpug!
Capt Pedantic  Location: Bigend, Wales. Registered: 27 Mar 2007 Posts: 25,839 Status: Offline |
Post #6
not entirely sure how it works but I think hydraulic pressure with the valve unloaded makes it close.________________________________________ need a part number? get on here - http://public.servicebox.peugeot.comBring on the Trumpets. |
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Posted 17th Jul 2008 at 02:46
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24seven
Seasoned Pro Location: Derby Registered: 05 Oct 2005 Posts: 6,221 Status: Offline |
Post #7
hmm. that could be it. either way with the spring and rod assembly completely removed from my car the thing handles and drives so much better! For the first time I'm able to feel the passive rear steering of the car, I need less steering input to go round corners than I used to, the car accelerates quicker and the brakes at the front at least) feel more responsive. I wonder if it being stuck on was causing my rear brakes to bind slightly. perhaps now that it's unseized from the fully on position it'll stay like that if I refit the rod/spring gizmos. will try that tomorrow.________________________________________ Ph1 306 GTi 6 | RX8 231 S1 | YBR 125 Cafe Racer | MT-03 660 |
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Posted 17th Jul 2008 at 06:10
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chris with a pug
Seasoned Pro  Location: Southampton Registered: 16 Feb 2003 Posts: 5,366 Status: Offline |
Post #8
is your car lowered?If it is you should remove a coil or two big spring to compensate |
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Posted 24th Jul 2008 at 16:53
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buzzbrightyear
Seasoned Pro  Location: hiding all receipts for car Registered: 09 Jul 2008 Posts: 11,901 Status: Offline |
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chris with a pug wrote: is your car lowered? If it is you should remove a coil or two big spring to compensate i was just about to mention that lowering may alter the brake bias to back wheels but you beat me to it ________________________________________ andrew315rawson@live.co.ukMoonstone phase 7 gti6 My Project thread: http://www.306gti6.com/forum/showthread.php?id=119992&page=1 |
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Posted 26th Jul 2008 at 14:58
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cwspellowe
Seasoned Pro  Location: Calderbank Registered: 19 Jul 2009 Posts: 6,496 Status: Offline |
Post #10
Mega revivalErm, just went to free up my compensator and the main rod thing that goes through it appears to be completely missing, just the flappy springy bit there. I should be concerned, shouldn't i? ________________________________________ Bye bye Sundance Kid |
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Posted 24th Jun 2011 at 02:09
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welshpug!
Capt Pedantic Location: Bigend, Wales. Registered: 27 Mar 2007 Posts: 25,839 Status: Offline |
Post #11
yarp  ________________________________________ need a part number? get on here - http://public.servicebox.peugeot.comBring on the Trumpets. |
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Posted 24th Jun 2011 at 02:24
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cwspellowe
Seasoned Pro Location: Calderbank Registered: 19 Jul 2009 Posts: 6,496 Status: Offline |
Post #12
Crap, where the f*ck could it be?!Thought it was a bit weird it loosened up easily and went all flappy, couldn't figure out how it was supposed to work  ________________________________________ Bye bye Sundance Kid |
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Posted 24th Jun 2011 at 02:25
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cwspellowe
Seasoned Pro Location: Calderbank Registered: 19 Jul 2009 Posts: 6,496 Status: Offline |
Post #13
Erm, spot the difference? I don't see what anything's supposed to be attached to though? ________________________________________ Bye bye Sundance Kid |
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Posted 24th Jun 2011 at 02:46
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welshpug!
Capt Pedantic Location: Bigend, Wales. Registered: 27 Mar 2007 Posts: 25,839 Status: Offline |
Post #14
meant to be a bracket on the lower damper bolt.best get down a scrappy and find a bracket springy thing and rod  ________________________________________ need a part number? get on here - http://public.servicebox.peugeot.comBring on the Trumpets. |
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Posted 24th Jun 2011 at 02:49
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cwspellowe
Seasoned Pro Location: Calderbank Registered: 19 Jul 2009 Posts: 6,496 Status: Offline |
Post #15
Ahh ya f*cker. Do all 306's have them, even ones with drums?What's it doing at the minute then? It was seized solid and i worked it free, have I just sent all the bias to the rear now? EDIT I have also deduced from picture evidence that it appears to have been missing since at least November last year. Could that explain why the brakes have felt shit for a while despite several bleeds? ________________________________________ Bye bye Sundance Kid |
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Posted 24th Jun 2011 at 03:00
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welshpug!
Capt Pedantic Location: Bigend, Wales. Registered: 27 Mar 2007 Posts: 25,839 Status: Offline |
Post #16
drum cars with ABS have them, and most with discs.________________________________________ need a part number? get on here - http://public.servicebox.peugeot.comBring on the Trumpets. |
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Posted 24th Jun 2011 at 03:03
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Lecktorious
aka G.  Location: Edinburgh Registered: 08 Jan 2009 Posts: 920 Status: Offline |
Post #17
306 Meridan in UPI Chris, from memory it's a TU.________________________________________ '98 Nile Blue 306 GTi 6 |
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Posted 24th Jun 2011 at 03:27
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daveyboy
aka Jim Davey  Location: Southampton Registered: 01 Oct 2007 Posts: 8,648 Status: Offline |
Post #18
No rod = Less/no rear brakes.________________________________________ R H Davey Welding Supplies. I sell new and used welding equipment in the Hampshire area. I take on welding jobs in the evenings, ally casting repairs are one of my specialities but I can weld pretty much anything. PM me with your requirements.Some of my services: (See my for sale threads) Engine mount/chassis repair Solid Beam Mounts BACK IN PRODUCTION Harness bars |
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Posted 24th Jun 2011 at 12:27
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owain
Seasoned Pro  Location: Essex Registered: 20 May 2009 Posts: 9,185 Status: Offline |
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Mate that's pretty funny  ________________________________________ Membership expiring soon, get in contact on our new little forum project. |
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Posted 24th Jun 2011 at 13:06
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blondie
Dirty Diesel Pro  Location: WestMids Registered: 13 Feb 2004 Posts: 3,867 Status: Offline |
Post #20
cwspellowe wrote: Yep non abs drum models have them tooAhh ya f*cker. Do all 306's have them, even ones with drums?  ________________________________________ A 306 Enthusiastphillipm wrote: But diesel is the devils fuel  Ps3 ID  hils306“S-H-I-T-H-O-L-E.. Shithole!” |
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Posted 25th Jun 2011 at 04:11
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welshpug!
Capt Pedantic Location: Bigend, Wales. Registered: 27 Mar 2007 Posts: 25,839 Status: Offline |
Post #21
naah, they have inbuilt pressure limiters in the rear wheel cylinders.________________________________________ need a part number? get on here - http://public.servicebox.peugeot.comBring on the Trumpets. |
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Posted 25th Jun 2011 at 04:14
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phillipm
Seasoned Pro  Location: Rotherham Registered: 15 Oct 2006 Posts: 20,607 Status: Offline |
Post #22
^^What he said.No pesky feckin' compensators on mine. ________________________________________ - Bespoke rollcages/additions/adjustments. Half cages right up to complete custom spaceframes - MSA/FIA spec, CDS, ROPT, T45, etc - PM meEmail me! Custom-made polybushes available - need an odd size or fitment? - anything from batch work to one-off pieces. |
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Posted 25th Jun 2011 at 04:29
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cwspellowe
Seasoned Pro Location: Calderbank Registered: 19 Jul 2009 Posts: 6,496 Status: Offline |
Post #23
 would explain why the rear brakes have seized up then, lots of rusty patches on the rear discs.Best get a new rod (snigger) to poke (snigger) the rear brakes into life ________________________________________ Bye bye Sundance Kid |
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Posted 25th Jun 2011 at 05:00
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smegal
Seasoned Pro  Location: Leeds Registered: 26 Dec 2005 Posts: 5,940 Status: Offline |
Post #24
I hope that you have better luck with yours than I did mine. I ended up with a new one as it was the only way I could get my rear brakes to show on an MOT machine.________________________________________ Ex SC-6Now in a Megane R26 |
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Posted 25th Jun 2011 at 22:00
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pinkfloyd
Senior User  Location: Ellesmere port Registered: 03 Oct 2006 Posts: 929 Status: Offline |
Post #25
Any idea if the rod can be left off on a lowered car. I was wondering if I could lock the compensator into a position that would suit track use?________________________________________ Liverpool Motor Club Sprint champion 2017Longton & District Motor Club Sprint champion 2017 Liverpool Motor Club Sprint champion 2016 Liverpool Motor Club Sprint champion 2015 Lancashire & Cheshire Speed Championship Winner 2014 2nd 2013 Winner 2012 2nd 2011 Winner 2010 Winner 2009 Winner 2008 Winner 2007 2nd 2006. |
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Posted 5th Nov 2011 at 07:22
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