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Well its getting quiet at the garage now so i decided to drop back onto the 205, first i had to remove the original gear selector from the top of the gearbox and replace it with one from the 205, you would think that would be easy, knock out the pin lift the old arm off and replace with the new, well i had a nightmare, i used a punch to knock the pin out and got the punch stuck, it literally took me a day on and off whilst working to remove itAngry .

Now have it fitted and have all my gears, filled the box with gear oil, and generally just tidied up the wiring (that's a nightmare in itself).

Took me a while but i fitted the horn (finally remembered where it fitted) and then fitted the front bumper (after scrubbing the rear of the bumper cleanLOL). Took a while to line it up up, but the difference seeing the car looking like a 205 again is amazing.

Then set about fitting the battery/ecu tray from the 306, had to remove three spot welds from the original 205 battery tray where it normally clamps the battery down and hey presto (not a great fit but will look into it at a later date.

Here's a few photo's, as you can see the scrap gti above it and the heart of it in a 205Razz .Kind of looks like the engine has fell out and landed in the 205-







All thats left to do now is-

Put all the dash back together.
Sort out the clutch as i am running a gti6 clutch and cable, just need a little less movement on the cable.
Change the master cylinder for a nice shiney new one then bleed the brakes.
A few clips for the side trims on the front.
8mm fuel hose to sort the fuel retun out.
10mm banjo for the feed from the fuel filter.

Thinks thats about it. Has given me a little greif but i think it was worth all the effort as it just looks so good.

Carl

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Posted 13th Dec 2008 at 00:24
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Post #227
Its getting there then, looking good! its the fiddly bits that all take the longest to sort out.


Not to hijack your thread but I had no trouble with rev counter wiring and speedo drive etc cause I fitted the complete instrument penel and the complete 306 wiring harness front to rear!!

306 instruments fit the 205 dash nicely!


306 fuse box in the cubby hole



Even got the diag plug so I can still plug into the ECU!


So no more dodgy 20 old Peugeot wiring anymore, just dodgy 10 year old wiring!LOL

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Posted 12th Dec 2008 at 23:43
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Looks great Carl, i wanted to keep the car looking standard but with a six lump in it, i have fitted the diag plug just like you have and in the same place believe it or not. (great minds think a like)

Its nice to sit back and look at what i have done to it, i believe i have just made a great car better.

Is that one with the 306 clocks in etc your track toy, its weird how it all seems to just bolt in and look great.

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Posted 13th Dec 2008 at 00:27
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Looks great Carl, i wanted to keep the car looking standard but with a six lump in it, i have fitted the diag plug just like you have and in the same place believe it or not. (great minds think a like)

Its nice to sit back and look at what i have done to it, i believe i have just made a great car better.

Is that one with the 306 clocks in etc your track toy, its weird how it all seems to just bolt in and look great.

Carl

Yes it is the track toy one, at the time I built it no one would let me have a wiring diagram so as I had the whole Rallye then I thought why not swop the lot over, its been done 3 years or more now!

I know what you mean about yours, keeping it looking original inside, plus the dials dont fit easily, lots of dash behind has to be cut.

Here she be, at the last track day;




Far from being mint like yours but then I have my Rallyes for that, this is the track slag!



And its in the back of French Car Mag this monthSmile

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Posted 13th Dec 2008 at 01:27
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Post #230
I like that the decals look smart.

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Posted 13th Dec 2008 at 01:33
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I like that the decals look smart.

Carl

cheers, wasnt sure what they would look like on Miami but its ok I think.

They are painted on in the end, as I bought a original PTS sticker kit off good old Ebay but they were so old the would not stick, so I was pi$$ed off and just painted them on!

front valance needs repainting due to too much track action chasing and passing Scoobys!Whistle

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Posted 13th Dec 2008 at 01:59
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gkz 206 wrote:
mechanical_repairs wrote:
I like that the decals look smart.

Carl
cheers, wasnt sure what they would look like on Miami but its ok I think.

They are painted on in the end, as I bought a original PTS sticker kit off good old Ebay but they were so old the would not stick, so I was pi$$ed off and just painted them on!

front valance needs repainting due to too much track action chasing and passing Scoobys!Whistle


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Posted 18th Dec 2008 at 11:04
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Well done a few more bits to it today, to be fair a couple of hours more work and it will be completed.

Fitted the coliover suspension to the car, i had initially fitted 306 struts and shocks hoping it would be ok but it made the ride heigh unreal, the coilovers fitted, now sits perfect although seems a little rough on the road-



This is how she looks when lowered on the ground (ignore the masking tape, i seem to have lost the clips to the arches LOL)




Had to go to the pst office and thought i would go in this, first run so all a little unknown, first fault i found was the brakes need bleeding a bit moreShock

But oh my it sure shifts, after i had done my bits and bobs i pulled onto the main road and floored it, i was met with a great induction roar and we just took off, the ride seems a little stiff, i hope this will settle down but other than that it drove great. Scared myself a little when i realised the front indicators werent working.

Few little niggles-

Something in the heater fan motor, makes a noise when switching it on possibly leaves etc.
Sort the brakes, should just need bleeding.
Find some arch clips.
Then just a general check over, oh and sort out why the front indicators dont work.

Carl

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Posted 29th Dec 2008 at 23:04
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Really is starting to look good now Carl.

What coilovers did you go for? Also, what height are you wanting it?
Posted 29th Dec 2008 at 23:02
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Really is starting to look good now Carl.

What coilovers did you go for? Also, what height are you wanting it?


I just want the car to sit at a standard height but with the standard 205 suspension, it sat to low so i used the 306 stuff and it sat unbelievaby high.

The coilovers are no great make, i bought them through ebay from a seller in Belgium, he had them up for

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Posted 29th Dec 2008 at 23:10
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jib wrote:
Really is starting to look good now Carl.

What coilovers did you go for? Also, what height are you wanting it?


I just want the car to sit at a standard height but with the standard 205 suspension, it sat to low so i used the 306 stuff and it sat unbelievaby high.

The coilovers are no great make, i bought them through ebay from a seller in Belgium, he had them up for
Posted 29th Dec 2008 at 23:15
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Just read this thread from start to finish and it's a fantastic effort! Clapping

Bet it's going to be great fun to drive once it's all finished too, it looks great! Cool

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Posted 29th Dec 2008 at 23:28
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Looks good you cant beat miami blueSmile

Does sit a bit high in my opinion and it looks as if the coilovers are set on their lowest point?

You say it sat too low with the 205 stuff on? Mines just on standard shocks and 30mm 205 front lowering springs and even thats not very low?

It would hadle better with the 205 stuff on I would have thought, like you say I thik it will be too hard as it is.

Just my opinion and it looks great, they do fly though dont they, LSD will be next on the list, wheel spin I find is the biggest problem so I have one ready to go in mine.


Brake hoses seem a little long aswell do they miss the wheels?

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Posted 30th Dec 2008 at 14:47
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Thats the coil overs as they were just fitted, you should have seen how low it was sat at that heightCrazy . Brake pipes seem fine no rubbing, but i may change them.

All seems good at the minute, just need to sort the little niggles then its going home to be pampered, it needs a good clean as it covered in all sorts of garage dust etc.

Carl

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Posted 30th Dec 2008 at 14:59
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Looks a fantastic job Carl, I take it you have a strutt brace fitted now, made a massive difference to mine, I remember one occasion when mine had all its group A supension and brakes etc i cornered hard and the bonnet popped up to the safety catch. Strutt brace sorted it but just shows the stress going through the tin foil!

I have some photo's somewhere of my GTI-6 conversion from the mid nineties, unfortunately they're all hard copy, digital camaras weren't that common back then!

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Posted 30th Dec 2008 at 15:19
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Thats the coil overs as they were just fitted, you should have seen how low it was sat at that heightCrazy . Brake pipes seem fine no rubbing, but i may change them.

All seems good at the minute, just need to sort the little niggles then its going home to be pampered, it needs a good clean as it covered in all sorts of garage dust etc.

Carl

Can you not pull the hoses more to the front, nearer the caliper, there just seems to be a big loop at the rear, cant remember mine being like that? The clamp for the hose also seems to be to far round? Your using standard 306 hoses correct? Which is what I have used. Sorry not wanting to tell you what to doSmile


As for the suspension I having a simular debate about what springs to use on my Rallye, I want it standard ride quality but want it to sit lower, I was going to fit 205 front springs so its not too hard but sits lower but now I think it maybe too low.

How far up have you adjusted the coilovers? Dont suppose you took any pics with the 205 springs on and the 306 ones so I can compare?

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Posted 30th Dec 2008 at 15:25
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Thats amazing and it look fantastic. Good to see another "L" reg 205 GTi too. Mine is an "L" reg too - 14th to last one made I'm told. Smile

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Posted 30th Dec 2008 at 20:14
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Had to go to the pst office and thought i would go in this, first run so all a little unknown, first fault i found was the brakes need bleeding a bit moreShock



What master cylinder are you using? if you have got a 205 master cylinder with gti6 calipers your always going to have a spongy pedal with lots of travel. Tou really need to find a 406 2.0 master cylinder, this will imporve the pedal travel loads.
Posted 31st Dec 2008 at 20:52
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mechanical_repairs wrote:


Had to go to the pst office and thought i would go in this, first run so all a little unknown, first fault i found was the brakes need bleeding a bit moreShock



What master cylinder are you using? if you have got a 205 master cylinder with gti6 calipers your always going to have a spongy pedal with lots of travel. Tou really need to find a 406 2.0 master cylinder, this will imporve the pedal travel loads.



At the minute its just running the standard master cylinder, i rebled the back brakes and now it seemes to have cured the pedal travel.

I have also played with the front flexi hoses and it all sits a lot better.

Carl

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Posted 31st Dec 2008 at 21:12
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I used to get a probem with long pedal travel in my 205 on the 4 pot Group A Alcon brakes so I used a master cylinder from a 405 which had a larger bore (probably only about 2mm bigger)and added some 2 LB pressure valves in the front brake lines which reduced the flow back to the master cylinder after the brakes had been applied, it firmed up the pedal lovely. I also experimented with adjusting the spiggot that acts on the master cylinder from the brake pedal with varying degrees of success, to start with the pedal was rock solid and felt perfect, a couple of miles later the brakes were jammed on!

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I used to get a probem with long pedal travel in my 205 on the 4 pot Group A Alcon brakes so I used a master cylinder from a 405 which had a larger bore (probably only about 2mm bigger)and added some 2 LB pressure valves in the front brake lines which reduced the flow back to the master cylinder after the brakes had been applied, it firmed up the pedal lovely. I also experimented with adjusting the spiggot that acts on the master cylinder from the brake pedal with varying degrees of success, to start with the pedal was rock solid and felt perfect, a couple of miles later the brakes were jammed on!


LOL,been there done that, brings you to a halt in no time on a v6 406 coupe i had in.

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Posted 1st Jan 2009 at 01:23
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Yeah I was on the A1 at the time just about to come off at the roundabout, I nearly burnt the clutch trying to pull the car off and into a layby those Alcon 4 pots with Pagid blues don't give up easily!Big grin

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mechanical_repairs wrote:
pugjim wrote:

What master cylinder are you using? if you have got a 205 master cylinder with gti6 calipers your always going to have a spongy pedal with lots of travel. Tou really need to find a 406 2.0 master cylinder, this will imporve the pedal travel loads.

At the minute its just running the standard master cylinder, i rebled the back brakes and now it seemes to have cured the pedal travel.

I have a 205 gti6 with the gti6 brakes on it. I too am using the standard 205 brake cylinder. I don't really have any problems with pedal travel at all. Its actually quite short pedal travel and is a damn sight shorter than my FTOs standard brake setup. Maybe the brake cylinders in the later "L" reg 205s (mine and Carl's) are bigger than earlier cars ? Confused

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Posted 2nd Jan 2009 at 20:10
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captaink wrote:
mechanical_repairs wrote:
pugjim wrote:

What master cylinder are you using? if you have got a 205 master cylinder with gti6 calipers your always going to have a spongy pedal with lots of travel. Tou really need to find a 406 2.0 master cylinder, this will imporve the pedal travel loads.

At the minute its just running the standard master cylinder, i rebled the back brakes and now it seemes to have cured the pedal travel.

I have a 205 gti6 with the gti6 brakes on it. I too am using the standard 205 brake cylinder. I don't really have any problems with pedal travel at all. Its actually quite short pedal travel and is a damn sight shorter than my FTOs standard brake setup. Maybe the brake cylinders in the later "L" reg 205s (mine and Carl's) are bigger than earlier cars ? Confused


I have standard 205 master cylinder with GTi-6 brakes aswell without any pedal travel probs, the brakes are excellent! too good sometimes in the wet as they will lock easily with no ABS!

Mines a K-reg 205 but I took the master cylinder from a F-reg (aswell as the rear beam/discs) as mine was a 1.6 originally

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Posted 2nd Jan 2009 at 22:54

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