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pugjim

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Ive been working on building this 205 for a while now. Loads of work has gone into this so i thought id just put some pics up for everyone to see. The engine came as a cambelt snapper in a GTi6 which had a very tough life and looked very worse for wear Sad the engine was then fully rebuilt, bottom end was fully balanced with flywheel lightened, crank reground, new shells, rings and bores honed. The head had some piper 270 repro cams, head lightly ported just so it was smooth, no major work to the head really. Jenvey 45mm throttle bodies with 120mm trumpets and cosy bosch 803 injectors. Full stainless scorpion exhaust with std gti6 manifold. A modified Whistle dta e48I ecu was used.























end result 214 bhp @ flywheel after being mapped. Smile
Posted 28th Jun 2008 at 05:01
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Looks tidy, I take it the battery is in the boot then?

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Posted 28th Jun 2008 at 05:06
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yeh battery is in the boot.

rest of the pics are here http://s151.photobucket.com/albums/s160/j1m306/GTi6%20Pics/
Posted 28th Jun 2008 at 05:18
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Does the oil cooler get enough air there?
Posted 28th Jun 2008 at 05:44
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Posted 28th Jun 2008 at 05:48
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fletch wrote:
Does the oil cooler get enough air there?


Its fine like that while diving on the road but for trackdays a modified headlight with some ducting to the cooler goes on.
Posted 28th Jun 2008 at 05:57
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Posted 28th Jun 2008 at 05:58
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Looks really good. It amazes me how much space you get back when fitting bodies.

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Posted 28th Jun 2008 at 12:36
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Chuffing lurrrvely!

I'm guessing its a headlight out job to get that oil cooler fully operational.

Fancy a swap with mine Whistle

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Posted 28th Jun 2008 at 18:32
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willygti wrote:
Chuffing lurrrvely!

I'm guessing its a headlight out job to get that oil cooler fully operational.

Fancy a swap with mine Whistle

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Ill swap u for my 106 Razz
Posted 28th Jun 2008 at 20:34
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Nice......

I feel that somthing is missing.... a charger perhaps??!!

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Posted 28th Jun 2008 at 21:39
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Looks really nice but i think 241bhp is hugely optimistic. I had almost exactly the same set up a while back except with lumpier cams (piper 285h's), ported head, jenvey 45's and the 285's and it just scraped 200bhp. Admittedly it was a 'hi'flowheads engine but still. My touring car ran 240bhp with extensive head porting, cams, full steel bottom end etc etc

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Posted 29th Jun 2008 at 05:52
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214 Pete, not 241 Laugh

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Posted 29th Jun 2008 at 06:03
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pete_rallye wrote:
Looks really nice but i think 241bhp is hugely optimistic. I had almost exactly the same set up a while back except with lumpier cams (piper 285h's), ported head, jenvey 45's and the 285's and it just scraped 200bhp. Admittedly it was a 'hi'flowheads engine but still. My touring car ran 240bhp with extensive head porting, cams, full steel bottom end etc etc


I have no reason to doubt the rollers it was mapped on were that much out, recenlty we had a rolling road day with the psooc at the same place where a standard 205 mi16 had 160 bhp, a 205 mi16 with a catcams had 167 bhp, another 205 2.0 8v turbo running 0.5 bar of boost had about 150 bhp (i cannot remember exact) all these power figures seem perfectly reasonable.

I have drove many 205's with all kinds of engine configurations and i can definately say this one is by far the most powerful yet!

it wasnt just a case of us slapping some jenveys and an ecu on, the engine was completely rebuilt, lightened/balanced, the head heavily skimmed, even the inlet manifold was smoothed out after it came from jenvey. All the best possible parts our budget would strech to were used.

The whole build so far has cost around
Posted 18th Jul 2008 at 04:01
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pete_rallye wrote:
Looks really nice but i think 241bhp is hugely optimistic.


i misread that too Whistle
Posted 29th Jun 2008 at 06:18
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Sorry, 214bhp is very realistic, did it originally say 241 or am I losing the plot?

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Posted 30th Jun 2008 at 23:57
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Whats been welded onto the subframe in this pic?

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Posted 1st Jul 2008 at 00:03
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Just looks like it's been seam welded (albeit badly Whistle )

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Posted 1st Jul 2008 at 06:13
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Just looks like it's been seam welded (albeit badly Whistle )


LOL

I don't suppose it really matters, the subframe is prob very similair to the 306 one anyway. If anything, welding attention should be turned to the shell LOL

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Posted 1st Jul 2008 at 23:01
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smighall wrote:
Just looks like it's been seam welded (albeit badly Whistle )


theres nowt wrong with the welding on that!



Whats yer problem with it?
Posted 1st Jul 2008 at 23:07
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pugjim

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petegti6 wrote:
smighall wrote:
Just looks like it's been seam welded (albeit badly Whistle )


LOL

I don't suppose it really matters, the subframe is prob very similair to the 306 one anyway. If anything, welding attention should be turned to the shell LOL


Yeh subframe is very similar to the 306 one.
Posted 1st Jul 2008 at 23:13
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Any more info on the cams/bodies in terms of cost, where to get stuff from, setting it up.

Very good little project, should be a proper animal that. Similar spec engine wise that Im aiming for so any info would be good (post it in the thread I started on Bike Carbs if you want, so not to spam in you project thread Smile)

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Posted 3rd Jul 2008 at 21:16
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nice project,

i assume its had a lot of head work? cams??

214bhp, i'd love that, i only got 170'ish from my std engine in my 205

that a 205 MC??
have you altered the servo at all, as you seem to have fitted it wih std mounts

i see you also altered the bulkhead..lol good call

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Posted 4th Jul 2008 at 04:20
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what exhaust manifold did you use please as im about to put a standard gti6 on tbs in my 205. cheers

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Posted 5th Jul 2008 at 17:40
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Standard gti6 exhaust manifold was used as its the best one. The 205 bulkhead was modified to make it fit.
Posted 13th Jul 2008 at 00:09
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