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 james_geldart
Senior User  Location: Yorkshire Registered: 20 Jul 2005 Posts: 943 Status: Offline |
Post #1
Hi guys, Ive noticed that my engine lacks power compared to another standard 6. It just doesnt throw you back at all when you plant your foot. It doesnt need a service, oil is still golden. Does anyone know what parts or sensors it could be that causing this? thanks James ________________________________________ Recommends:'mechanical_repairs' - Leicester 'miles' for suspension & Grp N/A goods Baker BM Mounts |
 Posted 6th Jun 2008 at 14:27
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joker
Seasoned Pro  Location: Leeds, Morley Registered: 30 Mar 2004 Posts: 9,570 Status: Offline |
Post #2
Old spark plugs, dirty air/fuel filter  How 'slow' is it? ________________________________________ Team 375 BHP Duratec™ |
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Posted 6th Jun 2008 at 15:19
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james_geldart
Senior User Location: Yorkshire Registered: 20 Jul 2005 Posts: 943 Status: Offline |
Post #3
well, its just lacking punch, it gets up to speed ok, but it certainly isnt performing like its got 167 break. Another mate who has a gti said it didnt throw you back at all, like his did. Its Budsowna old car, i think you know him?! I dont suppose you knwo if he had any issues with it? I'll do the plugs, and wack some injector cleaner in there and a new standard air filter (K&N filter at moment). It also seems a little too economical... which made me wonder if when i put my foot down, its not wacking enough fuel through... I havnt a clue what sensors effect performance... cheers Joker ________________________________________ Recommends:'mechanical_repairs' - Leicester 'miles' for suspension & Grp N/A goods Baker BM Mounts |
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Posted 6th Jun 2008 at 15:27
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joker
Seasoned Pro Location: Leeds, Morley Registered: 30 Mar 2004 Posts: 9,570 Status: Offline |
Post #4
You could check to see that your throttle is opening all the way too, I had that one  ________________________________________ Team 375 BHP Duratec™ |
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Posted 6th Jun 2008 at 20:02
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dane-katie
Regular  Location: Sheffield Registered: 09 May 2008 Posts: 310 Status: Offline |
Post #5
mine doesnt seem to throw me back either, but it wipes floor with redtop corsas (non turbo) etc. So presume its right, might try fitting new filters, have to see.________________________________________ Distinct FinishHigh Quality Valeting and Detailing Based in sheffield Member discount available PM For details |
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Posted 6th Jun 2008 at 20:25
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welshpug!
Capt Pedantic  Location: Bigend, Wales. Registered: 27 Mar 2007 Posts: 25,838 Status: Offline |
Post #6
might be incorrect valve timing.________________________________________ need a part number? get on here - http://public.servicebox.peugeot.comBring on the Trumpets. |
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Posted 6th Jun 2008 at 20:31
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dave
Seasoned Pro  Location: Larkhall Registered: 18 Apr 2007 Posts: 2,907 Status: Offline |
Post #7
Get it on a rolling road and see what is producing! |
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Posted 6th Jun 2008 at 20:35
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james_geldart
Senior User Location: Yorkshire Registered: 20 Jul 2005 Posts: 943 Status: Offline |
Post #8
welshpug! wrote: might be incorrect valve timing. sounds expensive... how would i find that out? ________________________________________ Recommends:'mechanical_repairs' - Leicester 'miles' for suspension & Grp N/A goods Baker BM Mounts |
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Posted 6th Jun 2008 at 20:36
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dane-katie
Regular Location: Sheffield Registered: 09 May 2008 Posts: 310 Status: Offline |
Post #9
dont like sound of that haha. would spark plugs, fuel filter, air filter make a difference though?Mines KnN and it looks caked in muck, gave it a bash knock most off just need to find a cleaning kit for them locally. ________________________________________ Distinct FinishHigh Quality Valeting and Detailing Based in sheffield Member discount available PM For details |
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Posted 6th Jun 2008 at 20:42
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joker
Seasoned Pro Location: Leeds, Morley Registered: 30 Mar 2004 Posts: 9,570 Status: Offline |
Post #10
How near to Leeds are you anyway James? ________________________________________ Team 375 BHP Duratec™ |
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Posted 6th Jun 2008 at 22:51
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gazzerdaman
Seasoned Pro  Location: Chelmsford Registered: 25 Sep 2003 Posts: 10,283 Status: Offline |
Post #11
james_geldart wrote: I'll do the plugs, and wack some injector cleaner in there and a new standard air filter (K&N filter at moment). Prob the K&N, if not it will certainly be contributing to it ! ________________________________________ GaryCherry Red GTi 6 |
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Posted 7th Jun 2008 at 00:19
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justinaccurate
Seasoned Pro Location: Cov Registered: 29 Apr 2006 Posts: 14,425 Status: Offline |
Post #12
Mine made 155 at a rolling road but I have a pattern part cat... people suggested that might be a reason  Ive bought a brand new genuine one now tho (thanks effone) - getting it fitted next week so we'll see  |
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Posted 7th Jun 2008 at 01:04
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gazzerdaman
Seasoned Pro Location: Chelmsford Registered: 25 Sep 2003 Posts: 10,283 Status: Offline |
Post #13
The rest of your exhaust genuine?________________________________________ GaryCherry Red GTi 6 |
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Posted 7th Jun 2008 at 01:08
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tabbbster
Seasoned Pro  Location: Turriff Registered: 04 Nov 2005 Posts: 3,826 Status: Offline |
Post #14
justinaccurate wrote: Mine made 155 at a rolling road but I have a pattern part cat... people suggested that might be a reason Ive bought a brand new genuine one now tho (thanks effone) - getting it fitted next week so we'll see I had a copy cat (  No pun intened ) It did lack pull compared standard cat and more so compared to the decat. More so higher up the rev range. Not mega noticeable as it still pulled well. Mind you I did replace the exhaust with a Mongoose system at the same time as the decat. It pulls like a train now.  Yours sounds more like a duff sensor somewhere.  ________________________________________ My Rallye was built on thursday 7th January 1999 according to the cosmic code generator.My Cyclone refurb |
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Posted 7th Jun 2008 at 01:18
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justinaccurate
Seasoned Pro Location: Cov Registered: 29 Apr 2006 Posts: 14,425 Status: Offline |
Post #15
gazzerdaman wrote: Rest of it is Timax or Arvin - whichever one peugeot didnt fit The rest of your exhaust genuine?  |
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Posted 7th Jun 2008 at 01:33
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dane-katie
Regular Location: Sheffield Registered: 09 May 2008 Posts: 310 Status: Offline |
Post #16
iv just given mine a overhaul. new spark plugs, fuel filter cleaned KnN which im wanting to remove asap. hell of a difference! one of my spark plugs was completly balls, some how it was touching on the end! ________________________________________ Distinct FinishHigh Quality Valeting and Detailing Based in sheffield Member discount available PM For details |
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Posted 7th Jun 2008 at 02:26
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gazzerdaman
Seasoned Pro Location: Chelmsford Registered: 25 Sep 2003 Posts: 10,283 Status: Offline |
Post #17
justinaccurate wrote: gazzerdaman wrote: Rest of it is Timax or Arvin - whichever one peugeot didnt fit The rest of your exhaust genuine? Added together that might explain your missing bhp. I have an Arvin backbox on mine, and it already sounds like its on its way out. ________________________________________ GaryCherry Red GTi 6 |
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Posted 7th Jun 2008 at 03:10
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james_geldart
Senior User Location: Yorkshire Registered: 20 Jul 2005 Posts: 943 Status: Offline |
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thanks for all the replys guysIm going to give it full service (it isnt really due one), new NGK plugs etc. see if that makes any difference, then take it down to Carl for a once over... If somethings a miss im sure he'll find it... worth the drive for the piece of mind It has what looks to be a timex/arvin exhaust on it. I'll check the throttle cables right too. anyone had this kind of issue and it been down to a sensor? Also my air filter is a K&N in the standard air box, would this sap power? i thought it would add to it. thanks again guys, love this forum. ________________________________________ Recommends:'mechanical_repairs' - Leicester 'miles' for suspension & Grp N/A goods Baker BM Mounts |
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Posted 10th Jun 2008 at 02:27
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jamie.bedford
Regular Location: northampton Registered: 09 May 2008 Posts: 223 Status: Offline |
Post #19
im having the same kind of problem not pulling properlyjust changed the clutxch as on its way out and still no difference feel sluggish to about 3 grand then picks up or if lift the gas and re plant my foot it tends to pull better but want the continuous pull from standing ________________________________________ Car up for Grabs £1095 is on the for sale thread |
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Posted 13th Jun 2008 at 04:13
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cjm_harris
Seasoned Pro  Location: Parts for Sale section Registered: 04 Dec 2007 Posts: 7,442 Status: Offline |
Post #20
jamie.bedford wrote: im having the same kind of problem not pulling properly just changed the clutxch as on its way out and still no difference feel sluggish to about 3 grand then picks up or if lift the gas and re plant my foot it tends to pull better but want the continuous pull from standing Thread revival... THis is what is happening to mine, kinda feels like the exhaust is blocked. Any ideas? ________________________________________ Chris1999 China Gti6 Supercharged  [Fun car] >>Project Thread<<2000 Bianca 306 Diesel [Work runabout] |
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Posted 24th Nov 2009 at 18:09
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monty-69
Senior User  Location: Colne Registered: 02 Jul 2006 Posts: 790 Status: Offline |
Post #21
Im in the same boat, standard motor with recent full service, standard pattern exhaust fitted. It isnt too bad bottom end like some ive driven, but the in gear acceleration is lacking (5500 to 7000). Ive only ever experienced two rallyes before, both with performance exhaust and k&ns and they both had a good whack of torque above 5k. The cam timing is ok, fitted new crank damper pulley to be sure. The performance was no better with the original exhaust fitted either. Its a right money pit, next job is the heavy clutch, then i will get to the bottom of it. Have tryed a different map senser which made no difference.The diagnostic machine says its in full throttle mode when foot is planted. Will be a case of rolling road, checking compressions and driving with cat back exhaust off. |
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Posted 25th Nov 2009 at 02:57
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spitfire
Regular  Location: Leighton Buzzard Registered: 30 Apr 2009 Posts: 365 Status: Offline |
Post #22
Had my throttle body cleaned out, a new Map sensor plus O2 sensor feels like it has got a lot more torque now.________________________________________ If you aint first, your last! |
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Posted 25th Nov 2009 at 03:06
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mattyrallye
Seasoned Pro  Location: gillingham Registered: 02 Nov 2007 Posts: 1,202 Status: Offline |
Post #23
I too have the same problem. Mine is running a health 176 BHP but lacks vastly on torque. Decat not helping. I have a pipercross system which i am in the process of removing. This should help. Nick at lynx set all my valve timeing correctly as it was out, and i still have no difference. Must just be that some are stronger than others. Not sure what next too do. My sparks are good, havent cleaned my injectors but i have a new map new o2, idle control ect. Mite try cleaning the throttle body. How did you do this Spitfire just take off and clean?? ________________________________________ Previous china gti6 and Rallye owner.Now a proud Astor Gti 6 owner. Missing he BMW already... |
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Posted 25th Nov 2009 at 03:21
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welshpug!
Capt Pedantic Location: Bigend, Wales. Registered: 27 Mar 2007 Posts: 25,838 Status: Offline |
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cam timing  advancing the inlet helps, though exactly how much to do so for what results is somewhat of a mystery, didn't help that the cams were not all identical apparently. have been emaning for a while to whip AdamB's timing belt covers off and see what Andy Gwynne did as his car has both good power AND Torque. ________________________________________ need a part number? get on here - http://public.servicebox.peugeot.comBring on the Trumpets. |
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Posted 25th Nov 2009 at 03:37
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pooouk
Regular Location: Belper, Nr Derby Registered: 22 Jun 2009 Posts: 259 Status: Offline |
Post #25
I noticed a difference on mine when I fitted a pattern cat instead of the knackered genuine one. It just seemed to be a bit strangled at the top end, but still had good torque. The pattern cat was noticably smaller than the oe one.Nick ________________________________________ AKA nick on 205gtidrivers.com |
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Posted 25th Nov 2009 at 04:16
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