I saw on forum inlet manifold swaping from GTI to XSI
http://www.306gti6.com/forum/showthread.php?id=64213&page=last
I just want to know if it is possible to do it on 1.8 16 engine (XU7JP4)
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Author | Subject: GTI6 inlet manifold to 1.8 16V |
simakos
Newbie Location: Belgrade Registered: 06 May 2008 Posts: 20 Status: Offline |
Post #1
I would like to change mine plastic inlet manifold on 1.8 16V engine with the metal one. Is there a possibility to swap inlet manifold from GTI to 1.8 16V engine? Will it fit?I saw on forum inlet manifold swaping from GTI to XSI http://www.306gti6.com/forum/showthread.php?id=64213&page=last I just want to know if it is possible to do it on 1.8 16 engine (XU7JP4) ________________________________________ sicimici |
Posted 12th May 2008 at 20:52
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welshpug!
Capt Pedantic Location: Bigend, Wales. Registered: 27 Mar 2007 Posts: 25,839 Status: Offline |
Post #2
yes, it has been discussed many a time, what you need to search for is fitting to an XS (later 306 XS's were 1.8 16v instead of the earlier 1.6 8v)________________________________________ need a part number? get on here - http://public.servicebox.peugeot.comBring on the Trumpets. |
Posted 12th May 2008 at 21:02
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ted
Senior User Location: Oxfordshire Registered: 15 Feb 2006 Posts: 639 Status: Offline |
Post #3
i have just done this to my xsi. I didn't cut and extend the wires though i just cut the tape back abit in the loom, pulled the sensor wires out abit and taped it all back up again. Used the xsi map sensor to. Also using the gti airbox and top rad hose. Runs very well. pulls alot better from 4krpm and sounds amazing... ________________________________________ Monkey see monkey do |
Posted 13th May 2008 at 00:53
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monty-69
Senior User Location: Colne Registered: 02 Jul 2006 Posts: 790 Status: Offline |
Post #4
Makes you wonder why pug wouldnt fit it as standard if it increases performance? Sometimes more noise makes it feel faster |
Posted 13th May 2008 at 03:33
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simakos
Newbie Location: Belgrade Registered: 06 May 2008 Posts: 20 Status: Offline |
Post #5
Ted, did you use throttle body from XSI or you swaped that too from GTI?What about fuel pressure regulator, fuel rail and injectors? It will be grate if you have some pictures to show. ________________________________________ sicimici |
Posted 13th May 2008 at 03:35
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ted
Senior User Location: Oxfordshire Registered: 15 Feb 2006 Posts: 639 Status: Offline |
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monty-69 wrote: Makes you wonder why pug wouldnt fit it as standard if it increases performance? Sometimes more noise makes it feel faster Well common sense should answer that one. simakos wrote: Ted, did you use throttle body from XSI or you swaped that too from GTI? What about fuel pressure regulator, fuel rail and injectors? It will be grate if you have some pictures to show. I used everything from the gti - fuel rail, injectors, FPR, throttle body. I'm sure someone else on here has put the manifold on a 1.8 to tell you what its like etc ________________________________________ Monkey see monkey do |
Posted 13th May 2008 at 04:06
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simakos
Newbie Location: Belgrade Registered: 06 May 2008 Posts: 20 Status: Offline |
Post #7
I expect that someone already done it before since the inlet manifold on 2.0 XSI is the same as the one on 1.8 16V.Here are some pictures. simakos has attached the following image: ________________________________________ sicimici |
Posted 13th May 2008 at 14:21
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simakos
Newbie Location: Belgrade Registered: 06 May 2008 Posts: 20 Status: Offline |
Post #8
And manifold from 2.0 XSIsimakos has attached the following image: ________________________________________ sicimici |
Posted 13th May 2008 at 14:45
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simakos
Newbie Location: Belgrade Registered: 06 May 2008 Posts: 20 Status: Offline |
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ted wrote: I used everything from the gti - fuel rail, injectors, FPR, throttle body. I'm sure someone else on here has put the manifold on a 1.8 to tell you what its like etc What is your experience with fuel consumption after swapping GTI inlet manifold? Did it remain the same or maybe it is increased? And final question, did ECU made any kind of problems or just worked perfectly right from the start with new manifold? ________________________________________ sicimici |
Posted 13th May 2008 at 20:40
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ted
Senior User Location: Oxfordshire Registered: 15 Feb 2006 Posts: 639 Status: Offline |
Post #10
i haven't been able to test the fuel consumption as i just haven't done the miles. In the few , miles that i have done, 30ish, i haven't noticed any difference. The ecu light comes on when i am at a constant RPM (i.e when cruising along) and goes off when the revs change. I'm guessing this is an air leak though as i don't currently have the throttle body gasket on (weekend jo Pic of my engine bay attached. Just needs a tidy up.. ted has attached the following image: ________________________________________ Monkey see monkey do |
Posted 14th May 2008 at 01:32
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simakos
Newbie Location: Belgrade Registered: 06 May 2008 Posts: 20 Status: Offline |
Post #11
What is the price of new GTI inlet manifold?Does it come with a gasket? Can anybody tell me where can I buy a second hand GTI manifold? I mean beside e-bay. What can you suggest? I am not from UK but I have a good friend in UK who could assist me and purchase for me. ________________________________________ sicimici |
Posted 15th May 2008 at 19:02
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ted
Senior User Location: Oxfordshire Registered: 15 Feb 2006 Posts: 639 Status: Offline |
Post #12
new i have no idea. Ebay or on this forum is the best place to find them. Top price for manifold, TB, injectors etc. (i.e everything you need) would be £100ish. ________________________________________ Monkey see monkey do |
Posted 16th May 2008 at 00:59
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simakos
Newbie Location: Belgrade Registered: 06 May 2008 Posts: 20 Status: Offline |
Post #13
Thanks Ted. I will try to do that. But of course I must check first if this conversion is possible.________________________________________ sicimici |
Posted 16th May 2008 at 13:21
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mick1989
Regular Location: preston Registered: 13 Dec 2010 Posts: 123 Status: Offline |
Post #14
did this make a differance mate. would like to try myself? |
Posted 15th Dec 2010 at 01:41
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jcphat
Seasoned Pro Location: In the day room, Nurse! Registered: 22 Feb 2008 Posts: 1,061 Status: Offline |
Post #15
I have been there and my experience was that the biggest benefit comes from swapping the exhaust manifold which sounds great and made my 1.8 quicker with no ill effects. The inlet manifold made little difference but it ran horribly rich with 6 injectors and much better with the 1.8 injectors. I went on to 6 cams-for which you need See SNEAKY EDIT- and found there was insufficient benefit to make it worthwhile as the lower rev limit on the 1.8 ECU prevented the development of the potential power at the top end of the range.In short exhaust manifold a guaranteed benefit. inlet manifold-great for show-not much go. Cams, need a re-map or a 6 ECU-neither of which is easy. SNEAKY EDIT> 6 cam pulleys-it's the 1.8 ones which don't work! ________________________________________ New Forum same high quality intellectual debate!Team Zimmer™ |
Posted 15th Dec 2010 at 23:50
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welshpug!
Capt Pedantic Location: Bigend, Wales. Registered: 27 Mar 2007 Posts: 25,839 Status: Offline |
Post #16
not surprised you found it ran rich with the gti6 injectors, they are huge compared to the originals and the ecu has no way of telling you have done this.________________________________________ need a part number? get on here - http://public.servicebox.peugeot.comBring on the Trumpets. |
Posted 15th Dec 2010 at 02:23
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dragoon
Seasoned Pro Location: Ghent - Belgium Registered: 30 Dec 2008 Posts: 1,071 Status: Offline |
Post #17
I've done the exhaustmanifold + exhaustsystem on mine and this makes a remarkable difference from standard.Can't be arsed with the other parts anymore Maybe, one day, a complete rebuild.., just maybe... ________________________________________ Team WheelwhoreTeam Limited Edition Astor 306 Francorchamps RIP Virtual Blue 208 GTi quote: I this place. So many illiterate deluded fool's acting 'ard . . . and so many literate intelligent people to rip them apart and knock them back down again . . . ahh |
Posted 15th Dec 2010 at 02:48
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mick1989
Regular Location: preston Registered: 13 Dec 2010 Posts: 123 Status: Offline |
Post #18
ive got a standard 1.8 and really thinkin of doin something to it.. so you think the best bet is 6 exsaust manifold? i was thinkin of doin the inlet but not sure now.. the exsaust seems the cheaper option but alot of labour! |
Posted 15th Dec 2010 at 04:18
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mick1989
Regular Location: preston Registered: 13 Dec 2010 Posts: 123 Status: Offline |
Post #19
how much hp you think the exsaust manifold would benefit me? is it just the manifold itself i would have to change |
Posted 15th Dec 2010 at 17:40
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joevts
Senior User Location: barnsley Registered: 21 May 2008 Posts: 608 Status: Offline |
Post #20
the downpipe would be shorter as the 6 fannymold is a fair bit bigger than that cast iron lump of shit on the back of the 1.8 |
Posted 15th Dec 2010 at 18:47
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dragoon
Seasoned Pro Location: Ghent - Belgium Registered: 30 Dec 2008 Posts: 1,071 Status: Offline |
Post #21
you need the complete exhaustsystem + need to reroute the coolant hose on the back of the block and the heatshield or loads of heatwrapa few pics of when I did mine are to be found in my topic: 306 Francorchamps ________________________________________ Team WheelwhoreTeam Limited Edition Astor 306 Francorchamps RIP Virtual Blue 208 GTi quote: I this place. So many illiterate deluded fool's acting 'ard . . . and so many literate intelligent people to rip them apart and knock them back down again . . . ahh |
Posted 15th Dec 2010 at 22:36
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pugmister
Regular Location: Birmingham Registered: 06 Nov 2009 Posts: 222 Status: Offline |
Post #22
anyone know someone that will fit my exhaust manifold on for me iv already fitted the manifold on to a 2.0 xsi |
Posted 20th Dec 2010 at 22:25
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smegal
Seasoned Pro Location: Leeds Registered: 26 Dec 2005 Posts: 5,940 Status: Offline |
Post #23
Mechanical_repairs?________________________________________ Ex SC-6Now in a Megane R26 |
Posted 20th Dec 2010 at 23:33
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