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cybernck

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Post #1
after having my thread deleted, i've been in a state of sorrow
but now i've finally found will and strength to post it up again Wink.


here's a quick slideshow of progress so far (titles are links!):

Phase 1 - Rear End Reconstruction
-> ->

Phase 2 - Rear Engine Installation
-> ->

Phase 3 - Dual Controls & Brakes
-> ->

Phase 4: Coolant Radiator & Exhaust System
-> ->

Phase 5: Rear Engine Electricity & Cooling
-> ->

Phase 6: Fueling System, Instrumentation & Misc
-> ->

Phase 7: Bodywork & Misc Development- in progress!
-> ->


Competition Events



all the build-up and competition videos are here:

205 Mi32 video clips


i'll continue regular updates with Phase 8.

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205 Mi32 Project - The Twin Mi16 Engined 205
Posted 20th Sep 2007 at 05:52
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Post #2
while Phase 7 is still in progress, it's time to start another Phase:

Phase 8: Turbocharging The Rear Engine Cool

the twin-engine concept has proven itself with standard engines,
so now it's time to start adding power, with help of booooosssstttt Big grin.


the first part of the Phase 8 story is all about acquiring the most important parts:



and getting custom bits and pieces made too!


you can find the first part of the story (with 32 pics) on THIS PAGE.


thanks.

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205 Mi32 Project - The Twin Mi16 Engined 205
Posted 20th Sep 2007 at 05:52
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in a quite eventful second part of the Phase 8 story, MegaSquirt ECU gets built up:




turbocharger get's temporarily mounted on the car:




and VEMS WBO2+EGT system gets installed and running:




you can find the second part of the story (with 32 pics) on THIS PAGE.


thanks.

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Posted 20th Sep 2007 at 05:53
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the third part of the Phase 8 story!


we get the engine running, with fueling managed by MegaSquirt ECU:




then we turn our attention to boost cooling setup:




and finally - fit larger, "turbo-ready" fuel injectors:




you can find the third part of the story (with 32 pics) on THIS PAGE.



you can watch the engine start-up video here:



205 Mi32 :: video #011 :: Starting the rear engine on MegaSquirt ECU (fuel-only)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OLe_ivFq3rM



thanks.

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Posted 20th Sep 2007 at 05:56
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Post #5
just a little explanation, as the story makes it look like we're
doing a whole turbo conversion in just a weeks time Smile - Phase 8
updates are not "in real time", we've been doing preparations and
gathering parts for a few months but i've decided that it's best
to present it all logically grouped and arranged step by step,
at the same time as actually doing the conversion Smile.

thanks.

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Posted 20th Sep 2007 at 05:53
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the fourth part of the Phase 8 story!


in this update - turbo mounted, exhaust made and chargecooler installed:



it was time to start it up and go for a drive as it was a race with time
to get in time on a race (402SR event) Smile, which starts tomorrow!


you can find the 4th part of the story (with 32 pics) on THIS PAGE.



you can watch the turbo engine start-up video here:



205 Mi32 :: video #012 :: Starting the rear turbocharged engine

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7llBmdrpeyA



thanks.

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Posted 20th Sep 2007 at 05:57
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video from the first turbocharged test-drive available here:



205 Mi32 :: video #013 :: The first turbocharged test drive (at night)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pRVB0RmrC7A


the test drive was successful, so we headed off for the 2nd day of the race!

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Posted 20th Sep 2007 at 05:58
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Post #8
here's the story about our 4th competition event of the season:

402 Street Race - Varazdin (CRO) - 08/Jul/07



after completing the turbo conversion on the rear engine only
the previous night, we decided to go to the 2nd day of the event.

you can see the full picture story (with 32 pics) on THIS PAGE.


and here's the video clip that goes with the story:



205 Mi32 :: video #014 :: 205 Mi32 @ 402 Street Race Varazdin (CRO), 08/Jul/2007

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eRjYQD3OMmE



this topic is brought up to date now!

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Posted 20th Sep 2007 at 05:59
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Post #9
Should be a cracking motor when it's running right.

Nice work.

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Posted 21st Sep 2007 at 03:39
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That is an awesome car and a superb thread, well done to you and everyone involved...

Best of luck.... you going to turbo the front engine too?? Roll eyes

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Posted 21st Sep 2007 at 17:37
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So the front wheels run of an NA motor, the rears of a turbo motor?

So does the rear ECU send engine speed to the front engine so they go at the same speed?

What about lag, if the engines are linked by speed/rpm, and the rear is off boost, then comes on boost, will the rear torque bias effectively increase a lot?


Just curious how you match the outputs from the two engines Smile

Dave

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Posted 21st Sep 2007 at 18:00
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Post #12
yes, once the rear turbo is completely finished, we'll do the same on the front engine Smile.

well, funds and time permitting Roll eyes.



4wd systems are never fixed and ideal 50:50 front:rear ratio.

for instance, 405 T16 is biased a little to the front end, Cosworths are quite biased to the rear end etc.

in 2wd+2wd system, in a straight line it doesn't matter and works ok, except when starting off the line,
when front wheels can easily spin and torque is lost, unlike on 4wd which will divert the torque to the rear wheels.

since the ratio stays constant, in bends it might not perform as good as 4wd system either, but then again,
this car wasn't built purely for handling on a circuit either :-).

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Posted 21st Sep 2007 at 21:25
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sorry, i've been very busy lately, i'll try to make an update soon!

thanks.

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Posted 28th Nov 2007 at 06:42
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wow, time really flies!

i'm severely overdue with the update, simply as i'm very busy... but i'm still here Smile.

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Posted 27th Apr 2008 at 15:32
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sorry for the looong delay in the story updates, i got a bit too busy at the end of last year,
then early this year we found out that my father has to have a heart bypass surgery done
which definately meant no racing and no real enthusiasm to work on the car and to top it off,
402streetrace series 2008 season has been buggered up from start till the end anyway.

my father had the surgery done last week, he's back home now and recovery goes well,
so we can start thinking about more work on the car, but nothing radical will get done for
the next few months for sure.

as a plus point, 205 Mi32 is featured as a Reader's Project in October's issue of Brittish
Practical Performance Car magazine http://www.ppcmag.co.uk and should be featured
in a few more magazines soon which will definately give us an initiative to carry on with
the project!

in the meantime, i've still got a couple of drag race reports to do, which i'll try to do soon.

thanks for the support and see you again soon Smile.

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Posted 28th Sep 2008 at 00:01
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Move to Projects - great looking project Thumbs up

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Posted 28th Sep 2008 at 00:11
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cybernck wrote:
sorry for the looong delay in the story updates, i got a bit too busy at the end of last year,
then early this year we found out that my father has to have a heart bypass surgery done
which definately meant no racing and no real enthusiasm to work on the car and to top it off,
402streetrace series 2008 season has been buggered up from start till the end anyway.

my father had the surgery done last week, he's back home now and recovery goes well,
so we can start thinking about more work on the car, but nothing radical will get done for
the next few months for sure.

as a plus point, 205 Mi32 is featured as a Reader's Project in October's issue of Brittish
Practical Performance Car magazine http://www.ppcmag.co.uk and should be featured
in a few more magazines soon which will definately give us an initiative to carry on with
the project!

in the meantime, i've still got a couple of drag race reports to do, which i'll try to do soon.

thanks for the support and see you again soon Smile.


Got the magazine and seen the pics!

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Posted 9th Oct 2008 at 03:15
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It was about time I updated this topic, I'm sure you'll agree! Smile

There hasn't been a lot of work done on the car after my father's surgery (he's fully recovered now!),
as we've stopped racing, had more imporant things to take care of and I've gone back into cycling,
which takes up a lot of my time!

However, here's a quick update of some body work - making the rear end of the car nicer and ready
for the 205GTIDrivers.com EuroTrip that happened back in May (full report to follow):



You can find a few photos HERE.

See you again in this topic soon Smile.

Thanks.

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Posted 11th Oct 2009 at 06:46
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P.S. Sorry, I forgot to mention that the car has also been featured in PSOOC's
(Peugeot Sport Official Owners Club UK) magazine "Torque", a few months ago.

Thanks.

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Posted 11th Oct 2009 at 15:45
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Post #20
Hello again everybody!

At long last, I've uploaded photos of the remaining two 2007 race events:




402 Street Race - Rijeka (CRO) - 26/Aug/2007




402 Street Race - Banja Luka (BIH) - 08-09/Sep/2007


Another update coming soon! Smile

Thanks.

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Posted 19th Feb 2010 at 06:16
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Post #21
Hey Nikica,
There must be quite a few updates now as its been aaaages since I last read about it.

Hope its all going well?Smile

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Posted 19th Feb 2010 at 18:07
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Well, actually not, due to my father's surgery and recovery
and our other commitments, therefore not much since the last
update, except the 205GTIDrivers.com EuroTrip and magazine
features that I'm going to cover over the next couple of updates.

However, we have some plans for 2010 Smile.

Thanks.

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Posted 20th Feb 2010 at 05:29
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Post #23
Hello again - here's a prompt update, as promised Smile.

I've been meaning to create a proper 205 Mi32 website, but whereas I'm still going to make
a "gateway" page for 205Mi32.com, I decided to set up a Facebook fan page, for ease of
maintenance/updating and a more direct contact with people that support the project.

I'm still going to post updates on forums, but I will be delighted to see you become a fan
of 205 Mi32 Project, as I'm currently gathering inspiration to carry on with it. The page
(that won't see updates too often, as you already know Smile), can be found here:

205 Mi32 Project Facebook Fan Page

Thanks!

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Posted 22nd Feb 2010 at 06:47
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Post #24
Hello everybody! It's time to FINALLY update this topic! Not a great deal of work has been done,
but still there's a thing or two that needs to be shown to the world, starting with the mentioned
2009 205GTIDrivers.com Eurotrip.

It was a 10-day round-trip for 205GTIDrivers.com members from the UK, Holland and Poland,
meeting with people from Austria, Italy, Belgium, Germany, Slovenia and Croatia along the way.
The farthest point of the Eurotrip was in Croatia, on 4th and 5th of May (Pula and Rijeka region),
where I was present with the 205 Mi32.

The feeling of getting recognised, acknowledged and approached nearly everywhere I stopped,
getting loads of thumbs up and flashes on the road, taking people out for passenger rides and
especially finally meeting, chatting and "putting faces to names" of people I've "known" for many
years was, simply put, fabulous! The selection of 205s I had seen was also something to be admired.


Here are a few thumbnail teasers:





And a photo that means a lot to me - 205 Mi32, surrounded by 205GTIDrivers.com members from
several countries. A truly special moment for me! Thanks everybody, you've made it all worthwhile!





Photo gallery: http://projects.205gtidrivers.com/205mi32-eurotrip09

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Posted 6th Sep 2011 at 00:29
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Post #25
Like I said, there hasn't been a great deal of work done on the car over the past couple of years,
but here's a tasty little 2010 update Smile.


It was time to sort out the suspension on the 205 Mi32, which meant finally fitting GAZ GHA coilovers
with 300 lbs springs and eccentric top mounts, purchased via group buy on 205GTIDrivers.com,
replacing FK coilovers (front) and Koni Sport Adjustables (rear).





I'll let the photos do the talking - http://projects.205gtidrivers.com/205mi32-ph7?page=8


See you soon with a 2011 update! Smile

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