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 spillett170
Newbie  Location: Gosport Registered: 21 Jun 2020 Posts: 7 Status: Offline |
Post #1
Good evening im hoping for advice. I have just received new top hose without oil cooler. If I blank off the oil cooler bit on rad can I just run it without an oil cooler? At a later date I may add an oil coiler but will i do damage without any oil cooling for now?________________________________________ sjs |
 Posted 24th Jun 2020 at 00:52
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demondriverdan
Seasoned Pro  Location: Londinium Registered: 29 Nov 2010 Posts: 2,665 Status: Offline |
Post #2
Depends on how you use the car really. If you're tracking, it's generally recommended to get a 16 row oil cooler as the oil gets quite hot.I've removed my water / oil cooler on the race car with no issues, but I also run an oil cooler out front. ________________________________________ Rallye Race Car |
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Posted 24th Jun 2020 at 07:29
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spillett170
Newbie Location: Gosport Registered: 21 Jun 2020 Posts: 7 Status: Offline |
Post #3
Its not used for track or race or anything. The pipe is from spooks and I ordered the wrong one but I have been told I can just run without any oil cooling as the standard design isn't great anyway as hot coolant is sent in to cool down the oil? ________________________________________ sjs |
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Posted 24th Jun 2020 at 09:17
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welshpug!
Capt Pedantic  Location: Bigend, Wales. Registered: 27 Mar 2007 Posts: 25,847 Status: Offline |
Post #4
send that overpriced wrong hise back and get an used oem one.________________________________________ need a part number? get on here - http://public.servicebox.peugeot.comBring on the Trumpets. |
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Posted 24th Jun 2020 at 09:46
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spillett170
Newbie Location: Gosport Registered: 21 Jun 2020 Posts: 7 Status: Offline |
Post #5
Where do people normally mount oil cooler if i was to get one. Is it an easy installation?________________________________________ sjs |
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Posted 24th Jun 2020 at 09:49
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spillett170
Newbie Location: Gosport Registered: 21 Jun 2020 Posts: 7 Status: Offline |
Post #6
Welshpug. The fitting on the standard pipes seem rubbish mine was leaking amd tried 2 pipes and a new thermostat housing. I thought this would solve it and the fitting is very good. Any other ideas________________________________________ sjs |
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Posted 24th Jun 2020 at 09:51
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welshpug!
Capt Pedantic Location: Bigend, Wales. Registered: 27 Mar 2007 Posts: 25,847 Status: Offline |
Post #7
never had leaking issues, just 2 seals anyway which are cheap.you dont need an oil cooler on a standard engine, juat the heat exchanger is more thsn enough ________________________________________ need a part number? get on here - http://public.servicebox.peugeot.comBring on the Trumpets. |
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Posted 24th Jun 2020 at 11:30
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eiei0
Regular Location: Kildare Registered: 08 May 2020 Posts: 192 Status: Offline |
Post #8
Sorry to Hijack the thread but I've never heard a good word about Spooks here is it somewhere to avoid,The list lots of tasty bits and pieces for the 306 |
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Posted 24th Jun 2020 at 11:31
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Ben_W
Formerly gpm  Location: Lutterworth Registered: 01 Sep 2007 Posts: 2,941 Status: Offline |
Post #9
They are good.....just pretty expensive.________________________________________ Cherry Red Rallye .... On going OEM spec restoChina Blue GTi6 .... Weekend toy Black 208 GTi .... Wife's car now Silver BMW 550i.... The executive missile |
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Posted 24th Jun 2020 at 11:34
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spillett170
Newbie Location: Gosport Registered: 21 Jun 2020 Posts: 7 Status: Offline |
Post #10
Ok. I have sent pipe back and swapped it for the one correct pipe. Peugoet made it that way for a reason so ill keep it the same. 👍. ________________________________________ sjs |
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Posted 24th Jun 2020 at 13:59
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pug_306
Seasoned Pro  Location: Great Hockham Registered: 28 May 2013 Posts: 1,594 Status: Offline |
Post #11
It's actually designed to heat the oil up quicker not to cool it. I have good used pipes if you get stuck. ________________________________________ 1998 Supercharged White Rallye1992 205 GTi6 205 Turbo 340bhp |
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Posted 24th Jun 2020 at 16:04
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alcon
Senior User  Location: Glasgow Registered: 19 Jan 2005 Posts: 939 Status: Offline |
Post #12
pug_306 wrote: It's actually designed to heat the oil up quicker not to cool it. I have good used pipes if you get stuck. Always wondered that, why everyone refers to it as an oil cooler. Seems a fairy naff design to be a cooler so being an oil 'warmer' makes more sense now! ________________________________________ 1999 GTi-6 (china blue)1999 Rallye (black) |
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Posted 24th Jun 2020 at 17:49
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welshpug!
Capt Pedantic Location: Bigend, Wales. Registered: 27 Mar 2007 Posts: 25,847 Status: Offline |
Post #13
conversely once up to temperature the geat exchanger should dump excess heat into the cooling system.________________________________________ need a part number? get on here - http://public.servicebox.peugeot.comBring on the Trumpets. |
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Posted 24th Jun 2020 at 17:50
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alcon
Senior User Location: Glasgow Registered: 19 Jan 2005 Posts: 939 Status: Offline |
Post #14
welshpug! wrote: conversely once up to temperature the geat exchanger should dump excess heat into the cooling system. So once the oil passes a certain temperature, in theory it could be hotter than the coolant and thus transfer heat the other way?....a bi-directional heat exchanger....who ever thought the 306 could be so advanced! ________________________________________ 1999 GTi-6 (china blue)1999 Rallye (black) |
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Posted 24th Jun 2020 at 20:37
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stan_306gti6
Forum Admin Location: Kent Registered: 18 Jan 2004 Posts: 21,769 Status: Offline |
Post #15
Yes, it's a heat exchanger - not a cooler.________________________________________ "Supercharged - 454.1bhp/317.5lb/ft"Peugeot 306 GTi-6 2000 (X), Moonstone  |
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Posted 27th Jun 2020 at 21:44
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Day666
Seasoned Pro  Location: Bristol Registered: 20 Apr 2013 Posts: 5,214 Status: Offline |
Post #16
Remember not having your oil warm enough is as damaging as having it too hot  I took mine off but let my engine and oil get warm before I drive it hard ...mostly on track though |
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Posted 27th Jun 2020 at 22:50
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pete_rallye
Seasoned Pro  Location: Yorkshire Registered: 12 Dec 2002 Posts: 5,253 Status: Offline |
Post #17
Get yourself some 12v heat pads and heat you're dry sump tank before use! There not expensive. You can use 240v ones too if you've got a power supply nearby. ________________________________________ Oulton Park in a BTCC 306 vid 1Oulton Park in a BTCC 306 vid 2 Lap of the 'ring |
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Posted 27th Jun 2020 at 23:08
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Day666
Seasoned Pro Location: Bristol Registered: 20 Apr 2013 Posts: 5,214 Status: Offline |
Post #18
pete_rallye wrote: Get yourself some 12v heat pads and heat you're dry sump tank before use! There not expensive. You can use 240v ones too if you've got a power supply nearby. |
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Posted 28th Jun 2020 at 00:16
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welshpug!
Capt Pedantic Location: Bigend, Wales. Registered: 27 Mar 2007 Posts: 25,847 Status: Offline |
Post #19
its common for rally cars to retain them as they often encounter stop start between stages, as well as having an air to oil cooler.in a road car though if the oil is still getting that hot under normal conditions I'd suspect an issue somewhere causing it to get hot, and the heat exchanger not being able to dump the heat as well from being blocked or corroded. ________________________________________ need a part number? get on here - http://public.servicebox.peugeot.comBring on the Trumpets. |
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Posted 28th Jun 2020 at 13:03
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