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 blandy
Seasoned Pro  Location: Bucks Registered: 25 Feb 2007 Posts: 2,437 Status: Offline |
Post #1
What are people running for purely track work in terms of Camber front and rear? Is more generally better? I’ve just cut out my turret tops in order to allow the full movement of the baker bm top mounts so max 3deg achievable now Toe? Spring rates? Trying to concentrate on getting it to handle well |
 Posted 2nd Apr 2018 at 18:36
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demondriverdan
Seasoned Pro  Location: Londinium Registered: 29 Nov 2010 Posts: 2,665 Status: Offline |
Post #2
2.5 degrees of camber all around2 or 3 minutes of toe out at the front 0 toe at the rear 400lb front springs 23.5mm TBs 30mm ARB ________________________________________ Rallye Race Car |
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Posted 2nd Apr 2018 at 23:08
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Day666
Seasoned Pro  Location: Bristol Registered: 20 Apr 2013 Posts: 5,214 Status: Offline |
Post #3
quote: [quote="demondriverdan"]2.5 degrees of camber all around 2 or 3 minutes of toe out at the front 0 toe at the rear 400lb front springs 23.5mm TBs 30mm ARB It’s all about your driving style Michael and opinions as always  2.5 degree front Standard camber rear ...(you don’t want the rear to grip too much) .. 0 toe rear Front 650Lb main springs with 200Lb progressive Lower springs Solid rear mounts 25mm TBs rear 30arb 3ways rear dampers set to control 25 TBs ....more than Bilstein group A 306 poundage Now... 40mm wider rear each side Front 75mm wider each side |
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Posted 4th Apr 2018 at 13:29
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prism7guy
Seasoned Pro  Location: DoncastAAAAARGH Registered: 13 Jan 2008 Posts: 4,640 Status: Offline |
Post #4
2 degrees negative camber front.Whatever springs came on my KW V2's, but i feel they're a bit soft personally. Parallel toe front. Extra caster. Standard toe and camber rear. 21mm torsion bars (would prefer slightly stiffer) 30mm arb. It goes alright round tracks, but i'm sure there's a lot of potential there for even more grip. I used to run 3 degrees of negative camber at the front but felt like i was trading off too much straight line grip for mid-corner grip. I agree with Damien though, a lot will be down to your driving style and preference. Don't always take every bit of advice as gospel as others may prefer their setup different to how you like it. ________________________________________ Goldie the track car. |
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Posted 3rd Apr 2018 at 17:44
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blandy
Seasoned Pro Location: Bucks Registered: 25 Feb 2007 Posts: 2,437 Status: Offline |
Post #5
Well I’m pretty much a novice so looking for starting point really in theory I should have a decent set up with Bc coilovers with 7kg (400 lb ) springs Baker bm top mounts with up to 3deg camber available Vibratechnics wishbone p bushes Bc rear dampers 3deg rear camber arms 23mm torsion bars 30mm rear Arb Solid beam mounts |
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Posted 3rd Apr 2018 at 21:25
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fatlapit
Seasoned Pro  Location: STOCKSFIELD Registered: 02 Nov 2010 Posts: 3,040 Status: Offline |
Post #6
Zero toe on rear too mike________________________________________ |
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Posted 3rd Apr 2018 at 20:45
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demondriverdan
Seasoned Pro Location: Londinium Registered: 29 Nov 2010 Posts: 2,665 Status: Offline |
Post #7
0 toe makes a big difference I think, when I had mine out last weekend I could really feel the back wanting to rotate. Admittedly last time I drove the car in the dry the rear beam was collapsing so my reference point is pretty low!________________________________________ Rallye Race Car |
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Posted 3rd Apr 2018 at 23:27
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blandy
Seasoned Pro Location: Bucks Registered: 25 Feb 2007 Posts: 2,437 Status: Offline |
Post #8
what toe up front are people running? Was playing with getting mine somewhere close to parallel over the weekend after replacing the offside inner steering rod as was bent.. |
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Posted 4th Apr 2018 at 15:38
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demondriverdan
Seasoned Pro Location: Londinium Registered: 29 Nov 2010 Posts: 2,665 Status: Offline |
Post #9
0.1 degree toe out up front________________________________________ Rallye Race Car |
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Posted 4th Apr 2018 at 15:55
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fatlapit
Seasoned Pro Location: STOCKSFIELD Registered: 02 Nov 2010 Posts: 3,040 Status: Offline |
Post #10
Standard unless its wet then add some toe and take the drop links off________________________________________ |
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Posted 4th Apr 2018 at 20:16
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Twangy
Senior User  Location: heswall Registered: 27 Jun 2014 Posts: 623 Status: Offline |
Post #11
quote: [quote="fatlapit"]Standard unless its wet then add some toe and take the drop links off as above , don't go to hard all round as changeable weather and to hard in wet will handle like a pig , you want a bit of compromise and softest compound tyres on the rear even in dry as arse end is only getting dragged round , ________________________________________ wayne mcardle |
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Posted 4th Apr 2018 at 21:50
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Twangy
Senior User Location: heswall Registered: 27 Jun 2014 Posts: 623 Status: Offline |
Post #12
quote: [quote="fatlapit"]Standard unless its wet then add some toe and take the drop links off ________________________________________ wayne mcardle |
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Posted 4th Apr 2018 at 21:51
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adam b
Seasoned Pro  Location: The Nam Registered: 24 Jan 2006 Posts: 12,828 Status: Offline |
Post #13
-1.5 camber frontStandard rear (xsara vts arms) Toe slight in front, naff all and parallel rear As much castor as I can in the front (less camber as I've a quaife) Mine doesn't run very low, -20mm on the rear, -45mm front with rubber beam mounts as I love the turn in and slide. And pretty soft springs due to road use ________________________________________ Nothing to see here |
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Posted 4th Apr 2018 at 21:58
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blandy
Seasoned Pro Location: Bucks Registered: 25 Feb 2007 Posts: 2,437 Status: Offline |
Post #14
Valuable info A lot of my suspension was already there so trying to maximise what’s there - the fronts were originally 5kg so have upgraded the dampers and springs to 7kg which should better match the rear bars I beilieve. I’ll have a play with front camber next time out as cut out the turret tops to give the full range of movement at the weekend so be interesting to feel the difference |
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Posted 5th Apr 2018 at 20:21
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blandy
Seasoned Pro Location: Bucks Registered: 25 Feb 2007 Posts: 2,437 Status: Offline |
Post #15
Forgot all about this thought may as well update - I did a day out at combe on the 13th and after setting it to -3deg at the f not to match the rear was concerned about stability but once out was very happy with the way it drove. I thought my 205 handled well but this was better. Still more to go but that’ll come with confidence |
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Posted 6th May 2018 at 19:57
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