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 lurch86
Senior User  Location: Herne Bay, Kent Registered: 22 Nov 2010 Posts: 505 Status: Offline |
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In your opinion, what would make a good budget track car and why?I've been contemplating on a new track car just recently and was wondering what other cars would make a good track car? I've seen that you can buy a Megane 225 for relatively cheap money?  ________________________________________ Wanted list... (P.m me if you have any)Rollcage. Strut Braces. Lydden Hill 31/10/2015 Last Track day 1st time at Snetterton on the Bike! 22/08/2017 |
 Posted 13th Oct 2017 at 13:12
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welshpug!
Capt Pedantic  Location: Bigend, Wales. Registered: 27 Mar 2007 Posts: 25,838 Status: Offline |
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18poo.gti6. ________________________________________ need a part number? get on here - http://public.servicebox.peugeot.comBring on the Trumpets. |
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Posted 13th Oct 2017 at 16:01
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Cjwatson27
Seasoned Pro  Location: Oxford Registered: 17 Sep 2013 Posts: 1,968 Status: Offline |
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Mini Cooper s ________________________________________ Old pugs don't die they just get faster |
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Posted 13th Oct 2017 at 17:36
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adam b
Seasoned Pro  Location: The Nam Registered: 24 Jan 2006 Posts: 12,828 Status: Offline |
Post #4
225 cup is better as you can turn off the traction. 230 are significantly better 172 cup Mini cs always seem very slow on track, dunno why. Astra vxr are cheap ________________________________________ Nothing to see here |
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Posted 13th Oct 2017 at 18:15
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Cjwatson27
Seasoned Pro Location: Oxford Registered: 17 Sep 2013 Posts: 1,968 Status: Offline |
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I'm surprised at that not that I've ever been on track but mine seems quite capable on the road even compared to the 306. But has I said I have no track experience just heard they were good on track ________________________________________ Old pugs don't die they just get faster |
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Posted 13th Oct 2017 at 18:41
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3rd time lucky
Seasoned Pro  Location: maidstone Registered: 23 Apr 2007 Posts: 1,879 Status: Offline |
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S3, TT, mx5________________________________________ DIABLO GTI-6 - Legend - NILE GTI-6 - SoldCHERRY GTI-6 P1 SUPERCHARGED - Broken up BLACK RALLYE - Sold 205 Dturbo xud9 work horse - Dead CHERRY RALLYE - new toy |
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Posted 13th Oct 2017 at 22:25
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RetroPug
Seasoned Pro  Location: Leicestershire Registered: 15 Jan 2013 Posts: 2,473 Status: Offline |
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Depends on how fast you want to go and whether budget is "cheap" or "as little as possible".In the little as possible bracket I've seen multiple puma engine mk5 fiestas lately for 150-400 with and without MOTs and some already fitted with quite a few bits like coilovers etc. Clios are good and are cheap right now, good clios seem to be cheaper than 306s these days and I know multiple people who have run them stock or close to stock on track on decent tyres and had a lot of fun and perfect reliability. ________________________________________ 61k miles Ph.1 Diablo '6 Project Thread |
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Posted 13th Oct 2017 at 23:40
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RallyeRed
Regular  Location: Northwich Registered: 03 May 2016 Posts: 353 Status: Offline |
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I do sprints with a group of enthusiasts, and the Clio’s whilst competitive and fun are derided for their alarming lack of reliability. The modern mini’s are fast but also suffer from known weaknesses which aren’t cheap to fix.I think the answer to question depends on your experience and the tracks you visit most frequently. You might want a quicker car than a basic n/a hatchback for long quick circuits, but something like that could be good fun on smaller, twisty tracks. I don’t have a lot of knowledge of the meganes, but agree they look a good option straight out of the box. M3’s can be found for good money if your budget goes that far, but front brakes have to be upgraded for focussed use. If you fancy 4WD Imprezas offer lots of choice also. I think all 3 could hold their value quite well at this point also. |
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Posted 14th Oct 2017 at 08:04
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welshpug!
Capt Pedantic Location: Bigend, Wales. Registered: 27 Mar 2007 Posts: 25,838 Status: Offline |
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s3 and tt are slow and understeeeeeery.mx5 needs a turbo. ________________________________________ need a part number? get on here - http://public.servicebox.peugeot.comBring on the Trumpets. |
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Posted 14th Oct 2017 at 15:00
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lurch86
Senior User Location: Herne Bay, Kent Registered: 22 Nov 2010 Posts: 505 Status: Offline |
Post #10
I've seen a few clio's on track, but not had one pass me, I had a clio in a couple of years ago that I was going to turn into a track car, but decided against it because it wouldn't really be an upgrade from my 306. There was a very well sorted Astra VXR that seemed very good at lydden the last time I was out, but by the looks of it, it had a lot of work done to it. There was 2 or 3 impreza's that were out in the same session as me once before (Fairly standard looking) and they were quick in the straights but as soon as they got to the corners the just understeered like mad! I would imagine with a bit of work they could be made to handle a lot better! would 4WD be much fun on a track day? Or would it take a lot to make it handle well enough to compete with a 306?________________________________________ Wanted list... (P.m me if you have any)Rollcage. Strut Braces. Lydden Hill 31/10/2015 Last Track day 1st time at Snetterton on the Bike! 22/08/2017 |
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Posted 16th Oct 2017 at 11:31
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prism7guy
Seasoned Pro  Location: DoncastAAAAARGH Registered: 13 Jan 2008 Posts: 4,640 Status: Offline |
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What sort of tracks are you wanting to go to?For the likes of cadwell you won't go far wrong with a 306 or a Clio, on the other hand somewhere like silverstone favours big power cars and it just feels bland in a relatively standard Gti6. There are some very quick Clio sports out there, I've come across two and both were apparently on standard engines but properly setup suspension and were able to carry what speed they could get on the straights round the bends with them. ________________________________________ Goldie the track car. |
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Posted 16th Oct 2017 at 11:43
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lurch86
Senior User Location: Herne Bay, Kent Registered: 22 Nov 2010 Posts: 505 Status: Offline |
Post #12
I'd like to try a few more tracks, but its mainly lydden hill and brands indy. So small track really. But I do fancy a bit more speed. Nothing is happening anytime soon, I was literally just starting a convocation to get some idea's. But eventually I'd like a fast track car!________________________________________ Wanted list... (P.m me if you have any)Rollcage. Strut Braces. Lydden Hill 31/10/2015 Last Track day 1st time at Snetterton on the Bike! 22/08/2017 |
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Posted 16th Oct 2017 at 11:59
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roland rat
Yeeeah Rat fans!  Location: Swansea Registered: 29 Nov 2006 Posts: 22,284 Status: Offline |
Post #13
Nice looking Xsara VTS in the whats it worth section |
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Posted 16th Oct 2017 at 12:07
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lurch86
Senior User Location: Herne Bay, Kent Registered: 22 Nov 2010 Posts: 505 Status: Offline |
Post #14
I'll stick with my 306 unless its Supercharged  ________________________________________ Wanted list... (P.m me if you have any)Rollcage. Strut Braces. Lydden Hill 31/10/2015 Last Track day 1st time at Snetterton on the Bike! 22/08/2017 |
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Posted 16th Oct 2017 at 12:14
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Cjwatson27
Seasoned Pro Location: Oxford Registered: 17 Sep 2013 Posts: 1,968 Status: Offline |
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Got a mate selling a clio 172 if you go down that route ________________________________________ Old pugs don't die they just get faster |
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Posted 16th Oct 2017 at 14:33
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mik
Seasoned Pro  Location: Kent Registered: 17 Feb 2011 Posts: 2,100 Status: Offline |
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quote: [quote="welshpug!"]s3 and tt are slow and understeeeeeery. Drove a new TT in 1999 - a little bit underwhelmed but nice interior. Drive a brand new GTI6 in 1998 and thought it was awesome despite nasty dash, which is why I have my Rallye now. Also some S3 and TT parts aren't cheap to replace so I wouldn't necessarily call these a good budget choice if, say, the 18-year old Haldex centre diff blew its ringpiece. If you have the money they can be uprated to serious power. ________________________________________ Cherry Rallye SOLD |
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Posted 16th Oct 2017 at 15:23
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3rd time lucky
Seasoned Pro Location: maidstone Registered: 23 Apr 2007 Posts: 1,879 Status: Offline |
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quote: [quote="mik"] quote: [quote="welshpug!"]s3 and tt are slow and understeeeeeery. Drove a new TT in 1999 - a little bit underwhelmed but nice interior. Drive a brand new GTI6 in 1998 and thought it was awesome despite nasty dash, which is why I have my Rallye now. Also some S3 and TT parts aren't cheap to replace so I wouldn't necessarily call these a good budget choice if, say, the 18-year old Haldex centre diff blew its ringpiece. If you have the money they can be uprated to serious power. Well this is my thinking. You can buy an R32 engined tt for £2.5-3K. If you strip the s**t out of it and do some trick suspension mods, I think it can be a very capable car. Plenty of spare parts as they are cheap cars now. I saw an S3 on a track day and it was the most impressive car on track for me. Looked very quick. ________________________________________ DIABLO GTI-6 - Legend - NILE GTI-6 - SoldCHERRY GTI-6 P1 SUPERCHARGED - Broken up BLACK RALLYE - Sold 205 Dturbo xud9 work horse - Dead CHERRY RALLYE - new toy |
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Posted 17th Oct 2017 at 08:41
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adam b
Seasoned Pro Location: The Nam Registered: 24 Jan 2006 Posts: 12,828 Status: Offline |
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Impreza with good suspension and we'll driven is hard to beat in most conditions ________________________________________ Nothing to see here |
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Posted 17th Oct 2017 at 21:47
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fast_eddie
Regular Location: bradford Registered: 21 Jan 2012 Posts: 285 Status: Offline |
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Got to go rear wheel drive or super pointy front wheel drive car, otherwise you will be bored quickly..As said, turbo mx5, jap rwd stuff, bmw track built stuff and french well sorted hatches, probably with an lsd in of some kind? Newer rs meganes are coming down in price too, cracking things! |
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Posted 22nd Oct 2017 at 23:27
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Chr1sch
Seasoned Pro  Location: Worcester Registered: 02 Aug 2014 Posts: 1,025 Status: Offline |
Post #20
I just picked up a 225 Cup Megane (Stage 2 with 272 bhp and a few choice mods) its already as quick as my 306 track car around Bedford (as i found out yesterday) with a full interior etc etcVery very capable cars, im enormously impressed!  Renault Megane by andy bradley, on Flickr |
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Posted 24th Oct 2017 at 11:42
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3rd time lucky
Seasoned Pro Location: maidstone Registered: 23 Apr 2007 Posts: 1,879 Status: Offline |
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quote: [quote="Chr1sch"]I just picked up a 225 Cup Megane (Stage 2 with 272 bhp and a few choice mods) its already as quick as my 306 track car around Bedford (as i found out yesterday) with a full interior etc etc Very very capable cars, im enormously impressed! Renault Megane by andy bradley, on FlickrNice one. I’ve heard a few reports of them not being very impressive in the handling department which i found odd. They always seem to fair well in ‘hot hatch’ competitions. ________________________________________ DIABLO GTI-6 - Legend - NILE GTI-6 - SoldCHERRY GTI-6 P1 SUPERCHARGED - Broken up BLACK RALLYE - Sold 205 Dturbo xud9 work horse - Dead CHERRY RALLYE - new toy |
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Posted 24th Oct 2017 at 13:20
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Chr1sch
Seasoned Pro Location: Worcester Registered: 02 Aug 2014 Posts: 1,025 Status: Offline |
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quote: [quote="3rd time lucky"] quote: [quote="Chr1sch"]I just picked up a 225 Cup Megane (Stage 2 with 272 bhp and a few choice mods) its already as quick as my 306 track car around Bedford (as i found out yesterday) with a full interior etc etc Very very capable cars, im enormously impressed! Renault Megane by andy bradley, on FlickrNice one. I’ve heard a few reports of them not being very impressive in the handling department which i found odd. They always seem to fair well in ‘hot hatch’ competitions. Oh really, i've not read that, the R26R is seen as one of the all time greats! I fully intend to build mine in line with that spec just with more power. I'm well on the way, but parts like the rear ARB and Diff by all accounts make a huge difference. Right now the Megane lacks the turn in of the Pug, but then mine had a VTS rack, sticky tyres and its already a great chassis so im not entirely surprised. |
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Posted 24th Oct 2017 at 13:25
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orta
Senior User  Location: East Mids Registered: 02 Sep 2006 Posts: 860 Status: Offline |
Post #23
Friend of mine took me out in his 225 the other day. The interior and overall build quality felt cheap and nasty. But as a track car I guess those things won’t matter________________________________________ CLUB BLACK RALLYE||B8s||60-70mm drop||Black Partner Steels||P1 VTS Rack||Refurbed Beam||Hybrid ARB||VTS Torsion Bar|| |
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Posted 30th Oct 2017 at 20:25
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aaron6
Seasoned Pro  Location: On the sofa in maidstone Registered: 16 May 2006 Posts: 5,840 Status: Offline |
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quote: I've only driven the 225 trophy. I thought it was okay but compared to my 6, it was quite understeery and very torque steery. [quote="Chr1sch"] quote: [quote="3rd time lucky"] quote: [quote="Chr1sch"]I just picked up a 225 Cup Megane (Stage 2 with 272 bhp and a few choice mods) its already as quick as my 306 track car around Bedford (as i found out yesterday) with a full interior etc etc Very very capable cars, im enormously impressed! Renault Megane by andy bradley, on FlickrNice one. I’ve heard a few reports of them not being very impressive in the handling department which i found odd. They always seem to fair well in ‘hot hatch’ competitions. Oh really, i've not read that, the R26R is seen as one of the all time greats! I fully intend to build mine in line with that spec just with more power. I'm well on the way, but parts like the rear ARB and Diff by all accounts make a huge difference. Right now the Megane lacks the turn in of the Pug, but then mine had a VTS rack, sticky tyres and its already a great chassis so im not entirely surprised. ________________________________________ See the sheer power and might of the lesser known burrowing owl. |
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Posted 10th Dec 2017 at 11:07
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Cjwatson27
Seasoned Pro Location: Oxford Registered: 17 Sep 2013 Posts: 1,968 Status: Offline |
Post #25
Anyone tried a Audi TT my brothers just got a 225 for £1300 and it seems very capable on the road for the money I presume with a few mods it could be a good track car ________________________________________ Old pugs don't die they just get faster |
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Posted 10th Dec 2017 at 12:29
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