it is if you want it to actually work and handle properly and not fold over a speed bump.

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Bring on the Trumpets.

Wayne the reason why is because the brembo for the maxi hubs are 4.5 a set and the wheels are all different offset. I am on the lookout for a full maxi on the continent to buy and rob a load of parts off!

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bare 306 and 106 maxi hub castings are 600 a side.

206 F2000 front wishbones are 2.2k a set just for the wishbones.

if you can't get your head around the price of stuff you need to forget about modifying cars.

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the brembos are the same as used on late escort grpa mate , and they are clamp type strut bodies ,same again later type tarmac escort , , not sure what offset the maxi used , but escort was et33 and wide track et16

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Phills direct replacement tubular wishbones were £600 iirc.

so less than 2k for subframe hubs and wishbones with the appropriate adapters is extortionate???

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Bring on the Trumpets.

to me that all just looks like bragging rights to how much you can p**s against a wall?
if I want to modify my car i'll do it and i'll do it on a realistic budget!

/Rant

you lot throw your money away if you want but I aim to be realistic!
i'm off for Ice cream and a snuggle with the mrs

but i'm not paying for a hooker or asking Mr Häagen-Dazs to personally come make me some of their delicious ice cream!

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why do you have to use maxi , why not use wrc ford uprights , £900 a pair including bearing , theres £300 saving , plus the price of maxi bearing

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That to be fair is why I paid the £2k because I don't have the skills to make it myself! Sadly it feels like I am building a 306 wrc car with th prices of a lot of things but then that really was what the Maxi was. I hope you guys do find a cheaper soloution because you wouldn't want to go wide arch just to ruin the handling.

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No sponsors are paying for your rallying parts unless the name on the side says Sebastian these days...and Twangy if you got T45 wishbones for £100 for a pair you did damned well, there was more than that just in the bare tube in mine. Never mind the joints/adaptors, etc!


If you're going to use the WRC Ford uprights you may as well just buy the Ford, because you're going to have to copy the pickup points across to your subframe and rack anyway, otherwise you've no idea what you've just done to the geometery
Will it go and steer? Yes. Will it go and steer well? Probably not unless you want to spend the time and effort working out what you end up with.
If not you may as well stick with a stock upright and cheaper solutions.
There are easy and cheap ways to do it, definately, sleeved driveshafts, balljoint adaptors/cut 'n' shut wishbones and shifting the upper turret mounts across will get you the wide track, but it won't handle as well as a stock car, so it does really depend on what you're wanting from it.
Such as the Satchell kit for 2k is (relatively, given development cost for a 1 off) cheap given the geometry has already been sorted out for out and out race performance and proven as such.

Of course, if you're making things for yourself you write off the time and effort as part of the fun of modifying the things, it's what I did with a lot of stuff I made for mine even if I wasn't selling stuff on after, I had one-off dampers, discs, modified subframe/rack mounting points, etc. but wanting a kit people can buy means someone gets stuck with doing the pre-requisite work along the line and that's when it costs money.

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Custom-made polybushes available - need an odd size or fitment? - anything from batch work to one-off pieces.

I don't know about cheap, you damn near stole those

The rear trailing arms on the buggy we've just finished making have £300 per side just in material alone in them for comparison!

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Email me!
Custom-made polybushes available - need an odd size or fitment? - anything from batch work to one-off pieces.

every one loves a bargain phill , 22 brand new boxed speedlines £550 ,thats asda price , 10 brand new kumho wets and inters £400 , mum shops at aldi , and lot more bargains

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you need to start shopping were i shop mate , , get alot of stuff offered my way quite alot of the time , like all the composite materials , just put the word round what i need for the car and most time come up trumps,

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Well this thread has turned interesting!

Wayne is the king at turning up trumps to be fair. He played a blinder for me on front coilovers only this week (cheers mate) so it can be done and is freely available; just not where you might typically look. (how many of you have searched Bellstein on eBay instead of Bilstein?)

I think we should respect folks ability to have a crack at it themselves, whether DIY or mates' rates and other contacts as not being somehow worse than an off the shelf product - or fold over a speed bump. There's some clever people out there modding cars by themselves.

As Wayne has highlighted the Ford front end is currently being made by specialist engineers at realistic prices (i.e. is not old beaten up kit) and offers a high degree of compatibility, parts availability and is eminently adjustable. What's being made today by specialists is often better than what was made nearly 20yrs ago now by the original manufacturer. Times move on. It's also highly capable kit.

I think what Satchell and the like offer is great, but yes it's possible to replicate/improve either cheaper or more readily. Just depends on your approach (buy/DIY). As already highlighted the Satchell set up doesn't get you driveshafts, extended TRE's either (no knowledge on ARB compatibility) so £2k still doesn't get you across the line.

The money thing is interesting; many of us are in 306's because of our age, it's cheap and so on. It's not the cheapest way to bhp by a long way, but it's a very cheap way to FUN, and that's where most of us start. If we can keep a lid on costs and have fun either with the process of building it, or the outcome, then we're on a winner. That's it for me.. I also have an Impreza Type R and M3 with more money in them, plus a diesel daily estate, so the 306 has to be good value to keep it's place, and for me to remain married!

Peace everyone. The destination is the same, but we're all here to enjoy the journey which ever route it takes us.
Iain