By the same token, I can't really see why folks would build HB 450hp cars in FWD!!?? Power understeer must be entertaining, even with a competent LSD!?

The 306 may be adjustable and balanced but in FWD format. I much prefer rear/4WD.... I may even get myself a Nissan 200SX rear end, graft that on and mate it up to the YB/saph 4WD front end.

As I say, it's still pie-in-the-sky but it's been something I've been toying with for a while. Will spend a bit of time having a think about the best way to approach this but when all is said and done, I'll do as I please...






TT

I have some wide arch FG front wings in the garage if anyone wants them

Was considering this route myself but it's not affordable for me

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Nothing to see here

I think some of my comments have been misconstrued, and perhaps some folk aren't really contributing to the idea behind the thread.

The moment any of us start tinkering with cars, and some of us have tinkered more than most, the comments of why do this, why do that look pretty shaky to say the least.

We should embrace the notion that folk are trying to improve their cars, especially if they're seeking ideas.

I wasn't suggesting that I wanted to YB and RWD my 306, but I was trying to stimulate ideas behind widening the track on the front. Anyone that has tinkered with mounts, camber, castor, wishbones and ARB's is no different - they're trying to gain something that Peugeot didn't give them. I've got some Cossie stuff left over from a 480bhp 3dr track car hence my musings.

Look at Ford motorsport alloy TCA's and comp struts (original 909 stuff or remade versions) - they look incredibly similar to the wishbones that are out there for Peugeot wide track stuff and much cheaper if you know where to look.

We're all in the same box, just differing skills, methods, objectives and budgets. I feel sure there's some component cross over potential to a project idea like this that goes beyond spacers but stops short of bespoke engineering.

Cheers
Iain

The MC photos are watermarked aren't they, but the AC stuff doesn't offer any photos of the kit other than a complete car. They do offer a lot of kevlar underbody protection which looks nicely done and you don't see it anywhere else, which at least suggests they can mfr to a decent level themselves?

Given the cost and effort though to go a pick it up, I think I'd rather be ordering from Maxi motorsport! If you get stung by customs for import duty as well then you'll end up paying more than purchasing here..

In my eyes there's a big difference between trying to improve or enhance what Peugeot did to start with, and honking a Pug shell over some mashed together jap and ford subframes and drivegear and hoping it drives straight most of the time
And this is from some that helped wedge a TVR V8 in the back of a 306....

The only really difficult part about widening the track is the driveshafts, and fortunately there the Pug out CV knuckles are pretty interchangable with bigger Pug models that have wider shafts. But if you're wanting to put proper power down then you're better off with custom shafts and joints anyway.

Or just pick the welder up, buy some tube and get on with it.

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Thanks for your input mate, much appreciated.
That 20mm extra forward position you need will be all in extra castor presumably? Sounds a lot though.
Do you think your steering rack will cope ok with the change in position?

I've done a fair bit of trawling, but I think folk go a bit vague in relation to stuff like spacers and so on for fear of criticism. I've yet to see exactly what is being done to existing wishbones. One thread I found suggested that Dimma in Belgium can still provide components?

I've definitely seen some like you describe, look almost identical to standard, just longer. Not sure if they are from another peugeot or if they were specially made by Dimma though. Some nice tubular ones would be what I aim for though!

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Oulton Park in a BTCC 306 vid 1
Oulton Park in a BTCC 306 vid 2
Lap of the 'ring

yeah, cut ant shut with added castor angle and the top mount moved outwards.

satchell wishbones will do that too, without having two welds in the middle of the arm.

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Bring on the Trumpets.

youre probably looking at around £5-600 for just the wishbones.

the satchell front end is around the 2k mark, but its a fully strengthened subframe, wishbones, hubs and revised rack height.

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Bring on the Trumpets.

On Martin Jones's thread from a while back on his rallying exploits with Jon Fossards old Dimma http://www.306gti6.com/forum/showthread.php?id=87633
He posts a pic of the wishbones in posts 16-18
It doesn't appear to be an extended arm, but an OEM arm 40mm wider. I am sure I have seen a post somewhere of an extended arm, but this looks more OEM to me. He describes it as a Dimma arm.
Dispatch van perhaps?
The truth is out there somewhere!

~£500 for a pair of wishbones in T45, maybe a knats cheaper in CDS.

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I believe its a 406 hub they're using, its 307 on their 106 kits as they needed a more positive location due to where the steering arm is.

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Bring on the Trumpets.

Do 406 uprights/hubs take the same size damper do you know? I'm not very familiar with 406 stuff.. how about driveshafts? Clearly Brembos would bolt on so thats an easy win...