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As the title stats, does anyone know of an auto HDI 306? Obviously not a factory option, but the xsara and 406 run the al4's so was wondering if anyone has done it? Had my mates partner ask about it as she can't drive a manual on her licence over here so wondered if I was something I could dive into or not.
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 Puggitt
Regular  Location: New Zealand Registered: 07 May 2012 Posts: 293 Status: Offline |
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 Posted 16th Feb 2016 at 09:46
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rikky
🦔 Location: cheshire Registered: 28 Feb 2004 Posts: 26,795 Status: Offline |
Post #2
never seen one but i'd love one tbh  1st/2nd gear rally through traffic is no fun thus i'm looking at a cheap e46 330cd auto________________________________________ 306 rallye reproduction decals (full sets/individual decals) | 306 b-pillar textured vinyl weatherstrips306 slam panel esso stickers | 306 yellow / orange / pension fund red side door badges gti6 inlet manifold badges | 306 rear boot badges (p2/p3) winner of Extraction of toys from prams with outstanding vigour award 2009 [source: gti6 owners club] |
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Posted 16th Feb 2016 at 10:08
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armzsc6
Seasoned Pro  Location: Crowborough Registered: 22 Mar 2008 Posts: 3,445 Status: Offline |
Post #3
Get a few xsara 2.0 hdi 110's in at work but problem is the xsara is all multiplexed so you couldn't exactly just Rob the engine and ecu and box and ecu. PSA autoboxes are a pile of w**k anyway IMO slow and lazy and unresponsive. Stick with the BMW ________________________________________ Black power baby! SUUUUUPERCHARGED Seat Leon FR TDI 190BHP 300lbft daily gti-6 killer :p 12x 306's owned so far Cambelts, clutches, service work carried out on All makes and models, Peugeot Citroen / mitsubishi specialist. Pug planet / Citroen Lexia diagnostics / code reads available. |
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Posted 16th Feb 2016 at 10:17
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welshpug!
Capt Pedantic  Location: Bigend, Wales. Registered: 27 Mar 2007 Posts: 25,838 Status: Offline |
Post #4
learn to drive stick!________________________________________ need a part number? get on here - http://public.servicebox.peugeot.comBring on the Trumpets. |
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Posted 16th Feb 2016 at 10:18
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Puggered
Junior User  Location: under Down under Registered: 18 Jan 2013 Posts: 78 Status: Offline |
Post #5
Puggitt wrote: As the title stats, does anyone know of an auto HDI 306? Obviously not a factory option, but the xsara and 406 run the al4's so was wondering if anyone has done it? Had my mates partner ask about it as she can't drive a manual on her licence over here so wondered if I was something I could dive into or not. You can certainly do it, but you would need a box with the correct shift tables. AL4's only have a couple of inputs to them. TPS, VSS, RPM and brake. The drive shafts are different. You would need a loom, dash, multi-switch and shifter, brake switch, lock out solenoid and ecu. You also need a radiator for the heat exchanger. Despite the utter hatred that's heaped on the AL4 it's not a bad box if looked after, heat and failed oil are it's biggest killer. far easier to teach someone to drive a manual.  |
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Posted 16th Feb 2016 at 12:04
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welshpug!
Capt Pedantic Location: Bigend, Wales. Registered: 27 Mar 2007 Posts: 25,838 Status: Offline |
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subframe is different too.________________________________________ need a part number? get on here - http://public.servicebox.peugeot.comBring on the Trumpets. |
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Posted 16th Feb 2016 at 12:24
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Puggitt
Regular Location: New Zealand Registered: 07 May 2012 Posts: 293 Status: Offline |
Post #7
Was just putting it out there because the later petrols run the al4 so I would have thought that the subframe is able to house the al4, driveshafts might be the same. Things that I thought might cause a problem would be if the looms have the wires required to accommodate the extra electronics etc and if I could match up a 406 trans ecu for the shift patterns etc |
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Posted 16th Feb 2016 at 19:26
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fatlapit
Seasoned Pro  Location: STOCKSFIELD Registered: 02 Nov 2010 Posts: 3,040 Status: Offline |
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Theres a 306 auto on bumtree ________________________________________ |
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Posted 16th Feb 2016 at 20:07
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mocinim
Seasoned Pro  Location: The Darkside of bedford :) Registered: 09 Jan 2015 Posts: 2,307 Status: Offline |
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I thought they did do hdi auto as an option or at least a diesel version auto Sure there was one at V5 salvage some time back ________________________________________ BLACK RALLYE - phoenixWHITE RALLYE - valliant http://public.servicebox.peugeot.com/ https://www.gov.uk/check-mot-history |
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Posted 16th Feb 2016 at 20:18
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Puggered
Junior User Location: under Down under Registered: 18 Jan 2013 Posts: 78 Status: Offline |
Post #10
Puggitt wrote: Was just putting it out there because the later petrols run the al4 so I would have thought that the subframe is able to house the al4, driveshafts might be the same. Things that I thought might cause a problem would be if the looms have the wires required to accommodate the extra electronics etc and if I could match up a 406 trans ecu for the shift patterns etc only real difference on subframe is the gear linkage post, autos don't have it. if you used an ecu with the same model number, can't see why it wouldn't just plug into an auto loom. The inputs are essentially just tapped into existing ones. |
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Posted 16th Feb 2016 at 21:30
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Puggitt
Regular Location: New Zealand Registered: 07 May 2012 Posts: 293 Status: Offline |
Post #11
Puggered wrote: only real difference on subframe is the gear linkage post, autos don't have it. if you used an ecu with the same model number, can't see why it wouldn't just plug into an auto loom. The inputs are essentially just tapped into existing ones. That piece unbolted anyway doesn't it? Would a manual engine ecu be fine? Do the two feed each other or are they independent? I just wonder for the sport/snow/first inputs from by the gear lever, wether the manual looms have the wires present to feed the multi plug or if I need to make some feeds through the fire wall or somethings? |
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Posted 16th Feb 2016 at 21:43
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Puggered
Junior User Location: under Down under Registered: 18 Jan 2013 Posts: 78 Status: Offline |
Post #12
Puggitt wrote: Puggered wrote: only real difference on subframe is the gear linkage post, autos don't have it. if you used an ecu with the same model number, can't see why it wouldn't just plug into an auto loom. The inputs are essentially just tapped into existing ones. That piece unbolted anyway doesn't it? Would a manual engine ecu be fine? Do the two feed each other or are they independent? I just wonder for the sport/snow/first inputs from by the gear lever, wether the manual looms have the wires present to feed the multi plug or if I need to make some feeds through the fire wall or somethings? Post is welded on every one I've come across. Engine ecu runs completely independent of the g/box ecu though they share some sensors. The manual looms I have don't have any of the auto stuff in them. Theres quite a few wires from the AL4 ecu , you could use an auto engine loom and then add the required wires in the cabin(position selector switch, brake, lockout solenoid and dash indicator) I can post a few pics up if you need. I'd just get the looms from a ph3 wrecked auto cabriolet. You also need the selector cables as well. |
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Posted 17th Feb 2016 at 00:03
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Puggitt
Regular Location: New Zealand Registered: 07 May 2012 Posts: 293 Status: Offline |
Post #13
Puggered wrote: Post is welded on every one I've come across. Engine ecu runs completely independent of the g/box ecu though they share some sensors. The manual looms I have don't have any of the auto stuff in them. Theres quite a few wires from the AL4 ecu , you could use an auto engine loom and then add the required wires in the cabin(position selector switch, brake, lockout solenoid and dash indicator) I can post a few pics up if you need. I'd just get the looms from a ph3 wrecked auto cabriolet. You also need the selector cables as well. Oh well I have most of the petrol 306 the al4 came out of, so I have sub frame and looms. But I wonder if I'd be better to get a 406 HDI auto engine and box loom of one a mate is breaking and just putting the 306 plugs on the end of it or wether I should just keep to modifying the 306 original. Would the cabin loom transfer from petrol to diesel, or do they differ? |
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Posted 17th Feb 2016 at 00:42
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Puggered
Junior User Location: under Down under Registered: 18 Jan 2013 Posts: 78 Status: Offline |
Post #14
Petrol/disease have quite different looms from what I can see in servicebox. Personally I'd use the 406 engine loom and the 306 auto loom. Either way you look at it, it would be a bi*ch of a job. |
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Posted 17th Feb 2016 at 21:40
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