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Is the sensor the same. Large xsaras use different management. Just a thought. Otherwise I'd say tracking possibly
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 adam b
Seasoned Pro  Location: The Nam Registered: 24 Jan 2006 Posts: 12,828 Status: Offline |
Otherwise I'd say tracking possibly |
 Posted 6th Jan 2016 at 17:22
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Chr1sch
Seasoned Pro  Location: Worcester Registered: 02 Aug 2014 Posts: 1,025 Status: Offline |
Post #27
Hmmmm good point, is the sensor the same!? Anyone know for sure? Tracking was also done when fitting so worth a look for sure...thanks! |
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Posted 6th Jan 2016 at 17:53
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Chr1sch
Seasoned Pro Location: Worcester Registered: 02 Aug 2014 Posts: 1,025 Status: Offline |
Post #28
just drove it up and down the road again, its got an insanely strong self centering motion and the pulsing with lock on is pretty horrible, even at low speed.Genuinely worried this is going to ruin the upcoming trackday in Feb at Silverstone  |
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Posted 8th Jan 2016 at 14:19
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pug_306
Seasoned Pro  Location: Great Hockham Registered: 28 May 2013 Posts: 1,592 Status: Offline |
Post #29
Did you swap the high pressure pipe buddy.?________________________________________ 1998 Supercharged White Rallye1992 205 GTi6 205 Turbo 340bhp |
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Posted 8th Jan 2016 at 14:45
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welshpug!
Capt Pedantic  Location: Bigend, Wales. Registered: 27 Mar 2007 Posts: 25,838 Status: Offline |
Post #30
have you done the tracking?________________________________________ need a part number? get on here - http://public.servicebox.peugeot.comBring on the Trumpets. |
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Posted 8th Jan 2016 at 14:54
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welshpug!
Capt Pedantic Location: Bigend, Wales. Registered: 27 Mar 2007 Posts: 25,838 Status: Offline |
Post #31
derp, missed the posts above  ________________________________________ need a part number? get on here - http://public.servicebox.peugeot.comBring on the Trumpets. |
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Posted 8th Jan 2016 at 14:55
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Chr1sch
Seasoned Pro Location: Worcester Registered: 02 Aug 2014 Posts: 1,025 Status: Offline |
Post #32
With the high pressure pipe about an inch or so had to be replaced (just extended be flexi hose by that amount with insanely over spec'd hp hose of the same internal diameter etc)Yes tracking was done immediately after, however it was fouling the box badly so it was done again to Limit that, could that be a potential issue? I run 205 section tyres so it was fouling pretty badly immediately after fitting (much worse than the old original rack) Any ideas? |
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Posted 8th Jan 2016 at 19:59
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demondriverdan
Seasoned Pro  Location: Londinium Registered: 29 Nov 2010 Posts: 2,665 Status: Offline |
Post #33
I have very little fouling running Direzzas which must be 215s and a Xsara ph2 rack. Only on full lock do they rub.________________________________________ Rallye Race Car |
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Posted 8th Jan 2016 at 20:04
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Day666
Seasoned Pro  Location: Bristol Registered: 20 Apr 2013 Posts: 5,214 Status: Offline |
Post #34
I have PHAZE 1 rack & 205/50/16s Dunlop DZ03gs & they foul just ? |
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Posted 8th Jan 2016 at 20:13
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Chr1sch
Seasoned Pro Location: Worcester Registered: 02 Aug 2014 Posts: 1,025 Status: Offline |
Post #35
Jesus I don't know what's going on, they only foul at full lock right but pretty badly (they did a bit as standard)I'm totally lost on what to do now |
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Posted 8th Jan 2016 at 20:55
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pug_306
Seasoned Pro Location: Great Hockham Registered: 28 May 2013 Posts: 1,592 Status: Offline |
Post #36
Did you fit the GTi6 RAM ?________________________________________ 1998 Supercharged White Rallye1992 205 GTi6 205 Turbo 340bhp |
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Posted 8th Jan 2016 at 20:59
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Chr1sch
Seasoned Pro Location: Worcester Registered: 02 Aug 2014 Posts: 1,025 Status: Offline |
Post #37
I don't believe so, but not 100% as I didn't fit it, could that be it!? |
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Posted 8th Jan 2016 at 21:00
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pug_306
Seasoned Pro Location: Great Hockham Registered: 28 May 2013 Posts: 1,592 Status: Offline |
Post #38
You need the GTi6 Ram fitted to stop it fouling, but still sounds like a fluid restriction issue ________________________________________ 1998 Supercharged White Rallye1992 205 GTi6 205 Turbo 340bhp |
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Posted 8th Jan 2016 at 21:02
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Chr1sch
Seasoned Pro Location: Worcester Registered: 02 Aug 2014 Posts: 1,025 Status: Offline |
Post #39
Right ok thanks all of that is very useful thank you! |
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Posted 8th Jan 2016 at 21:03
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demondriverdan
Seasoned Pro Location: Londinium Registered: 29 Nov 2010 Posts: 2,665 Status: Offline |
Post #40
Yup, the ram controls the lock so if you didn't change it you'll have more right lock than the rest of us, hence why you get more fouling.I'd suggest changing the ram and as part of that you'll have to change the fluid so see how it feels after that? Might be worth changing the pump at the same time if you've got all the fluid out anyway? ________________________________________ Rallye Race Car |
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Posted 8th Jan 2016 at 21:33
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Chr1sch
Seasoned Pro Location: Worcester Registered: 02 Aug 2014 Posts: 1,025 Status: Offline |
Post #41
Yes good idea, I will report back, thanks chaps :-) |
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Posted 9th Jan 2016 at 08:21
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adam b
Seasoned Pro Location: The Nam Registered: 24 Jan 2006 Posts: 12,828 Status: Offline |
Post #42
Its not the ram. Strong centering steering means the geometry is set up wrong. Get it checked again - its only toes anyway. Go for slight toe-in of 3 minutes overall max. ________________________________________ Nothing to see here |
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Posted 9th Jan 2016 at 21:06
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adam b
Seasoned Pro Location: The Nam Registered: 24 Jan 2006 Posts: 12,828 Status: Offline |
Post #43
Oh and make sure the tyre pressures are bang on before its done. If running a diff you'll find it drags about with un-equal tyre pressures.________________________________________ Nothing to see here |
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Posted 9th Jan 2016 at 21:08
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Chr1sch
Seasoned Pro Location: Worcester Registered: 02 Aug 2014 Posts: 1,025 Status: Offline |
Post #44
No diff but I'll be sure to get all the gro done again, thanks appreciate it! |
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Posted 9th Jan 2016 at 23:48
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Day666
Seasoned Pro Location: Bristol Registered: 20 Apr 2013 Posts: 5,214 Status: Offline |
Post #45
The Beauty about the VTS Phaze 1 rack is you can use all your old pipework as well as being 2.4 not 2.6 as with the Phaze 2 which you need to adapt  Did you flush the old pipework through before fitting or did the garage ?.....sounds like a very small piece of rust flake /foreign object has entered the pipe work ? Could a small flake of the damaged pipe have entered ...either before you stripped or after ? I've seen stuff which has been taken off cars which has been stored end up with this problem ... My suspicion would be something got into the pipework / Fluid ? You still have to use the GTI6 Ram on both Phaze 1 & Phaze 2 or fouling happens & hits 6 speed box housing .... |
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Posted 23rd Jan 2016 at 15:42
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Chr1sch
Seasoned Pro Location: Worcester Registered: 02 Aug 2014 Posts: 1,025 Status: Offline |
Post #46
I beleive so, my mate fitted it at his garage but given the fluid needs to cme out again anyway I'll be sure to make sure it is flushed I had no idea about the phase 1 vs 2, it's been a total ball ache and I'm regretting it massively It's going in on the 21st so we'll see then... |
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Posted 13th Jan 2016 at 21:17
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Chr1sch
Seasoned Pro Location: Worcester Registered: 02 Aug 2014 Posts: 1,025 Status: Offline |
Post #47
So it's back and it's perfect :-D All down to the Xsara ram being fitted so not sure if it was also knackered but the steering is now so so good! |
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Posted 23rd Jan 2016 at 11:38
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pug_306
Seasoned Pro Location: Great Hockham Registered: 28 May 2013 Posts: 1,592 Status: Offline |
Post #48
Glad its all sorted buddy ;-)________________________________________ 1998 Supercharged White Rallye1992 205 GTi6 205 Turbo 340bhp |
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Posted 23rd Jan 2016 at 11:43
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Chr1sch
Seasoned Pro Location: Worcester Registered: 02 Aug 2014 Posts: 1,025 Status: Offline |
Post #49
Me too lol it was bloody horrible before, lessons learnt n all that... |
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Posted 23rd Jan 2016 at 11:44
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mik
Seasoned Pro  Location: Kent Registered: 17 Feb 2011 Posts: 2,100 Status: Offline |
Post #50
Great news to hear it is all sorted. I've got one fitted and love it - I think it is what the Rallye should have had from the start. ________________________________________ Cherry Rallye SOLD |
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Posted 23rd Jan 2016 at 15:17
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