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Post #26

that kit seems more elusive than this one!
i'm not sold unfortunately i'll keep hankering after the Wilwoods Razz

I came to your humble array of towns and villages last week and spent the week there in St David's
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can I ask what's is with the dodgy welsh spellings? didn't have a f-ing clue we had fun trying to pronounce a few of them though!
and by the time i'd seen the english part of the road sign i was looking for it was too late to see what it actually said! LOL

but I have ARAF down to a tee! not that it helped me with the road signs mind!

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Posted 22nd Sep 2015 at 15:41

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I'm a long way East of St Davids LOL

ash's kits aren't elusive, he's making a new batch of brackets and rotors & Bells, unfortunately the discs are more expensive now, though Niall on the OC found that a Punto Abarth disc will fit with these brackets, just need the pcd altering to pug and the centre bore taking out to fit the pug hub.

Personally I'd look into moving to a smaller 300 mm disc to increase the wheel choices, my wheels fit without any spacers Shock

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Posted 22nd Sep 2015 at 15:49

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Post #28

that sounds like a smart idea!
why doesn't the Genius that you are design some of your own? Razz

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Posted 22nd Sep 2015 at 16:06

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I do the wrong type of CAD, I use cardboard not computers Sad

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Posted 22nd Sep 2015 at 16:20

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Poor Show!,... poor show!

how about paper and pen?
bet I can work out cad! it's just 3d Technical Drawing if you got the dimensions/measurements bet i could work the rest! Wink

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Posted 22nd Sep 2015 at 17:03

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I'm looking at my brackets, I've no idea what they're from but they work with the rally design disc, which is stupid money.

It looks as if I only have to mill a small amount from the mounting lugs in order to use them with standard discs.

I did email Phil a while back requesting a drawing or to purchase his one remaining bracket

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Posted 22nd Sep 2015 at 17:50

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he doesn't seem too keen to part with it LOL

hopefully he'll be able to draft us up a new drawing Big grin

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Posted 22nd Sep 2015 at 18:18

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Aren't there any technical drawings online for the wilwood calipers?

Do they just use standard gti6 discs or some other disc? I'm pretty sure I've seen dimension sheets for the std discs online in the past.

Just do what I did and measure a knuckle, get the drawing for your caliper so you know mounting points etc and then design your own brackets. It's fairly simple at the end of the day, just a bit nerve wrecking if you've never done it before.

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Posted 22nd Sep 2015 at 18:27

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the one bit of info missing from this pic, 27.2mm overall height, other than that its all there.

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Posted 22nd Sep 2015 at 18:43

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there's a similar one.

http://www.textar.brakebook.com/bb/textar/en_GB/92059600_82/datasheet.xhtml

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Posted 22nd Sep 2015 at 18:50

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the rallydesign kit uses a 285mm renault disc redrilled afaik.

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midilite drawing

also what piston size were used on the calipers in wellys kits?
1.75", 1.5", 1.38" or 1.25

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Posted 22nd Sep 2015 at 18:55

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http://www.306gti6.com/forum/showthread.php?id=89447&page=1

1.38" I believe.

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reading further on, Z-120-7545 is the caliper he said, which are 1.75" /44.5mm.

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Posted 22nd Sep 2015 at 19:34

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Renault clio 3/megane 2 are 40mm.

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phillipm wrote:

Yeah, they look like the original brackets, I redesigned them for the ones I made (originals top right):

Unfortunately whilst my brackets were easy for me to make, it does make them a lot more effort for most shops that'd take them on, especially if they're using manual machines.

Exactly that. I'm a toolmaker and mostly only use manual machines and there is a lot rotary table work to get your ones. Our workshop would be proper expensive.

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Brembo ftw.

Where'd you get your brackets in the end?

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aaron6 wrote:

Exactly that. I'm a toolmaker and mostly only use manual machines and there is a lot rotary table work to get your ones. Our workshop would be proper expensive.

It's even worse, as a couple of the curves are compound so they're not even constant radius LOL

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phillipm wrote:

aaron6 wrote:

Exactly that. I'm a toolmaker and mostly only use manual machines and there is a lot rotary table work to get your ones. Our workshop would be proper expensive.

It's even worse, as a couple of the curves are compound so they're not even constant radius LOL

Yeah, that's why my poor little manual machines are dying out. CNC is often neater, cheaper and much quicker. Maybe I should retrain...

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Where'd you get your brackets in the end?

only got one, but ash is getting more made

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I'd be keen on buying a set of brackets... Been trying to locate a set for a while now so I could fit the woods....

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I'd be keen on buying a set of brackets... Been trying to locate a set for a while now so I could fit the woods....

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Well, once I've got CAD re-setup I can do a drawing and then either send it to whoever wants it so they can get it made or get a group buy going and get a batch made somewhere that'd be a cheaper price per bracket I'd hope.

Ideally I'd prefer a bracket to take measurements off of to copy but could get dimensions another way if enough people wanted them to justify the effort.

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aaron6 wrote:

Yeah, that's why my poor little manual machines are dying out. CNC is often neater, cheaper and much quicker. Maybe I should retrain...

It took me longer to warm the head and motors up, then wash down after machining, than it did to actually mill the brackets LOL

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