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nsmgoodwood

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HELP!!!

I have done a search but haven't found something happening like mine.

My car was sat for around 18 months. Sent it to my mechanic to get it back on the road.

All was fine but it seems to have started to cut out for no reason it can happen at idle or on the move (say around 30MPH). My mechanic did an ECU reset this morning and again it cut out at around 30MPH by all accounts on this occasion it revved high then cut out. When ever it cuts out into neutral and it'll restart by all accounts. Sometimes it'll be just be once or it'll cut out a few times straight after the other.

Please please help any ideas as to why this would be happening?

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Posted 24th Jul 2015 at 12:41

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Icv ??? Prob dirty or needs replacing or could be lambda or tps

Posted 24th Jul 2015 at 12:58

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Thanks, I'll pass that info on see. Hopefully it's one of those if not I'll be back as they say.
Once again many thanks

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Posted 24th Jul 2015 at 18:45

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I'd say that almost definitely the idle control valve yes. But, bear in mind that cleaning won't always cure the problem. It may simply need a brand new one. Which may well be cheaper to do anyway rather than clean it, it's not any better and then chucking cash at other things.

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Posted 26th Jul 2015 at 07:58

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Don't suppose anyone's got the part No: for the ICV.
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Posted 26th Jul 2015 at 10:28

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http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Peugeot-306-1-8-16V-2-0-S16-1996-2002-Magneti-Marelli-Idle-Air-Control-Valve-/291208644677

Try this one fella brought mine from here back in feb fixed all simular issues including stalling make sure you reset correctly resetting via battery disconnection will usually work however best to have the ecu plugged in and codes reset if it does not cure immediately

Best not to use cheep versions as they can cause additional problems

halfrauds sell this part for 120 bucks marelli is the original

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Posted 26th Jul 2015 at 11:19

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Details for lambda if you need also oe replacement

Item specificsCondition:

New: A brand-new, unused, unopened and undamaged item in original retail packaging (where packaging is ... Read more

Bosch Part Number:0258003717Make Razz

EUGEOTBosch Short Code:LS3717Model:306Status:Current part number available from Bosch UKSub Model:i 16V GTI-6 RALLYEPrevious Part Number:N/ADate:05.97-10.03Type:Step-Change Lambda SensorChassis:[N5]Number of Wires:4Engine Size:2.0Length (mm):565Engine Type:RFS ; RFVService Interval:100000 Kms or 62000 miles

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Posted 26th Jul 2015 at 11:26

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Tip for icv dont loose your original screws supplied ones may differ

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Posted 26th Jul 2015 at 11:27

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Fitted to 306 rallye presume your is 306 gti6 or rallye

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Posted 26th Jul 2015 at 11:30

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Thanks mocinim, the engine is actually in my 309 Goodwood hence why I asked about part numbers.
My chassis number won't match the engine. Re lamba I bought one a few years back had to hunt for one with a longer cable as the standard one wasn't long enough. So if that's the problem I've got some hunting to do again.

Thanks everyone I'll keep you posted as I've just found out it's already been cleaned so off buying I go.

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Posted 26th Jul 2015 at 11:42

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Ok good luck anyway may be worth contacting the supplier of these you never know

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Posted 26th Jul 2015 at 11:51

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I've ordered one via the link you posted mocinim thanks for that. Should be here mid week then hopefully that'll be the problem. Thanks again everyone

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Posted 26th Jul 2015 at 11:54

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It does sort these issues most if the time so hopefully it will for you too. Keep us posted.

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Posted 26th Jul 2015 at 21:07

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Well I'm back, all changed earlier today and it's still cutting out. By all accounts it just stops randomly.

I know the guy working on it wants to try and get a dyagnostics on it but the one he has can't be used for older cars.

Any other ideas? Again any help greatly appreciated.

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Posted 29th Jul 2015 at 13:56

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Anybody know what this relay is for? By all accounts it's getting really hot and when it gets disconnected the engine will turn over but not start. I'll post another pic of if as I can only post one pic, not sure if it's relevant to my problem but it's a question I've been asked so I'm asking the experts. Thanks

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Posted 29th Jul 2015 at 16:38

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The other pic hope it helps.

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Posted 29th Jul 2015 at 16:38

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Thats the Fuel pump / Ignition Relay, Fits behind the battery box

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Posted 29th Jul 2015 at 16:56

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pug_306 wrote:

Thats the Fuel pump / Ignition Relay, Fits behind the battery box

Thanks

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Posted 29th Jul 2015 at 19:43

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nsmgoodwood wrote:

Anyone please, we're at a loss

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Posted 29th Jul 2015 at 19:44

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looks like the relay has a chunk missing out of the casing, so worth sticking a new one of those on especially if it gets very hot.

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Posted 29th Jul 2015 at 19:46

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welshpug! wrote:

looks like the relay has a chunk missing out of the casing, so worth sticking a new one of those on especially if it gets very hot.

Don't suppose anyone has the part number for the relay?

Thanks

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Posted 5th Aug 2015 at 11:54

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So it looks like I've still got the problem. Could it be the ECU? Remember car was sat for 18 months or so.

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Posted 24th Aug 2015 at 14:03

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You checked all your earths ?

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Posted 24th Aug 2015 at 18:13

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nsmgoodwood

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Cjwatson27 wrote:

You checked all your earths ?

The mechanic working on it I'm sure he has, but he's no expert on the Gti-6 engine.
Couldn't get anything to read the car to find a fault.

I only ask as if it could be the problem I have a standalone ecu with throttle biddies waiting to go on and it could be the push I need to get it done.

Just want my pug back so I can Smile

again

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Posted 24th Aug 2015 at 19:40

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My earth on the gearbox had pulled its thread out and kept working loose which sounds abit like what you're is doing

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Posted 24th Aug 2015 at 18:52

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