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Author Subject: URGENT HELP! MOT ADVICE
orta

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Post #1
Hi All,

Got the Rallye in at the garage today for it's test. And all they keep bleeting about is that the wheel is catching the gearbox on right lock.

I explained to them that these don't full lock right because of the 6th gear (I reminded them that they've passed my two previous 6s) but they're insistent this is a fail.

Now the only differences between the Rallye and my previous 6s is it's dropped 60-70mm instead of 30mm, it's got a Xsara Steering Rack and it's got my 15" steel wheels on... would these mods make the difference? Anyone know of a cure to get it through test? (I've tried putting the cyclones back on but it's still catching...)

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Posted 15th May 2015 at 14:22
jorg

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Post #2
any idea what steering ram is fitted to the xsara rack?

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Posted 15th May 2015 at 14:34
orta

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Post #3
Not a clue buddy. I'm not even sure what a steering ram is :- it's the 2.4 if that helps?

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Posted 15th May 2015 at 14:35
jorg

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Post #4
I'm not totally sure but I think when fitting a VTS rack to a 306 with a 6 speed box you need to fit the gti6 steering ram as this limits the lock and stops the wheel from catching the box.

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Posted 15th May 2015 at 14:39
orta

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Post #5
And that was something attached to the outgoing gti steering rack?

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Posted 15th May 2015 at 14:43
jorg

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Post #6
have a look at this thread:

http://www.306gti6.com/forum/showthread.php?id=156891

I could be talking total bo***cks by the way

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Posted 15th May 2015 at 14:47
rallyeash

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Post #7
Bang on some 5mm wheel spacers for the mot. Take em off again. Job jobbed.

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Posted 15th May 2015 at 14:52
orta

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Post #8
Already got 10mm spacers on and it's still catching!!

Cheers Jorg that thread has saved the day I think. Basiclaly I need the ram off my old 3.6 rack, which I still have... so should solve the issue hopefully!!

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Posted 15th May 2015 at 14:56
daver6

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Post #9
rallyeash wrote:
Bang on some 15mm wheel spacers for the mot. Take em off again. Job jobbed.

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Posted 15th May 2015 at 15:43
Mossy1985

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Post #10
Ive fitted a mk1 xsara rack and also have c5 "steelies" and have B8s fitted and have no issues with fouling. I put the ram from my old rack onto the xsara rack so thats nost likely your issue
Posted 15th May 2015 at 17:48
armzsc6

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Post #11
Yes it's the ram that limits the right hand lock so swap that back on. The pipes can be a c**t to get undone sometimes though.

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Posted 15th May 2015 at 21:29
dangti6

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Post #12
I had a 6 ten years ago that would touch the box.

Would be surprised if the ram had been changed at that period in it's life, so would anything else trivial cause the issue?

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  • Posted 15th May 2015 at 21:33
    scotzman

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    Post #13
    Track rod ends adjusted unevenly, wheels set straight ahead with the rack not in the centre.

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    Posted 15th May 2015 at 21:43
    Chr1sch

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    Post #14
    Mine catches the box on full right lock too?!?
    Posted 15th May 2015 at 21:50
    mik

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    Post #15
    Mossy1985 wrote:
    Ive fitted a mk1 xsara rack and also have c5 "steelies" and have B8s fitted and have no issues with fouling. I put the ram from my old rack onto the xsara rack so thats nost likely your issue


    Except for my Mk2 2.6 Xsara rack and OE dampers I've done the same and no issues with MOTs. Before doing it I read threads on here saying use the original GTI6/Rallye ram and it worked for me.

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    Posted 15th May 2015 at 22:31
    Chr1sch

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    Post #16
    So is it likely mine has a
    Xsars rack then as I noticed only the other day it has polished one of the bolts on the end of the box! The car has quite a history of bits (RichW bits etc) or could it be mine is buggered?
    Posted 17th May 2015 at 12:21
    mik

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    Post #17
    Could be someone fitted wrong ram to the stock rack as I've heard people insist that any ram will do. I've also had someone at a Peugeot dealer say to me "mate there is something wrong with your steering - it has less lock when turning right". So an incorrect ram on your stock rack is more than possible.

    Quickest way to see if you have VTS rack is twirl the steering wheel lock to lock and count the turns; 2.5-ish = VTS rack; 3.6-ish = std.

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    Posted 17th May 2015 at 21:55
    Chr1sch

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    Post #18
    That's great thanks Milk :-)
    Posted 18th May 2015 at 07:07

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