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I have a red Rallye with some faded paintwork in places and was wondering if a detailer would be able to restore the paintwork. I know very little about it so any advice on would be appreciated.
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 Kenan
Regular  Location: Exmouth Registered: 20 Oct 2013 Posts: 307 Status: Offline |
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 Posted 21st Feb 2015 at 22:33
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cully
Seasoned Pro  Location: Cullompton Registered: 12 Jun 2013 Posts: 1,093 Status: Offline |
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do you park it in east budleigh? |
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Posted 21st Feb 2015 at 22:45
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Kenan
Regular Location: Exmouth Registered: 20 Oct 2013 Posts: 307 Status: Offline |
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No, I assume you have seen one there?Only have the car 2 weeks so doubt your spotted mine yet  |
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Posted 21st Feb 2015 at 23:08
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cully
Seasoned Pro Location: Cullompton Registered: 12 Jun 2013 Posts: 1,093 Status: Offline |
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i keep leaving notes on the one in budleigh askig to call me when they want to sell |
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Posted 22nd Feb 2015 at 08:33
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Kenan
Regular Location: Exmouth Registered: 20 Oct 2013 Posts: 307 Status: Offline |
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LOL, not being successful then. If you see mine no need for a note, not selling it anytime soon |
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Posted 22nd Feb 2015 at 17:25
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Lookebe
Newbie  Location: Holme, Kendal Registered: 08 Dec 2014 Posts: 16 Status: Offline |
Post #6
Depending on color Machine polishing will leave swirl marks if it's an orbital polisher. A random orbital will leave less but still leave some of your not very carefull. Black is the worst to show them up. Red shouldn't be too bad. I'd spray it lightly with water and use something with a bit of cut in, auto glym paint renovator is very good, followed by meguairs carnauba plus wax will leave you amazed! |
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Posted 28th Apr 2015 at 18:20
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Lookebe
Newbie Location: Holme, Kendal Registered: 08 Dec 2014 Posts: 16 Status: Offline |
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Best to test on the roof to check first I would say. |
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Posted 28th Apr 2015 at 18:21
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mik
Seasoned Pro  Location: Kent Registered: 17 Feb 2011 Posts: 2,100 Status: Offline |
Post #8
Original Cherry Red paintwork won't respond well as it is a clear over base, so you'd be polishing the clear coat not the faded red underneath. If it has had some bodge paint job with repainted panels with no clear coat, these would polish up OK. ________________________________________ Cherry Rallye SOLD |
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Posted 28th Apr 2015 at 20:07
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Ben_W
Formerly gpm  Location: Lutterworth Registered: 01 Sep 2007 Posts: 2,941 Status: Offline |
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Lookebe wrote: Depending on color Machine polishing will leave swirl marks if it's an orbital polisher. A random orbital will leave less but still leave some of your not very carefull. Black is the worst to show them up. Red shouldn't be too bad. I'd spray it lightly with water and use something with a bit of cut in, auto glym paint renovator is very good, followed by meguairs carnauba plus wax will leave you amazed! I'm sorry but what a load of s**te ^^^^^ that is. A properly used machine polished, whether it be a DA (dual action, random orbital type) or a Rotary, will, if used properly, remove swirling/scratches etc and return the paint to how it should be. To get the best results it's about know-how and application. I've a very good machine polished plus a range of.pads and compounds. I can polish most panels and remove swirl. I certainly do not add more..... ________________________________________ Cherry Red Rallye .... On going OEM spec restoChina Blue GTi6 .... Weekend toy Black 208 GTi .... Wife's car now Silver BMW 550i.... The executive missile |
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Posted 29th Apr 2015 at 06:55
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ryangti6
Seasoned Pro  Location: Pontypool Registered: 01 Sep 2006 Posts: 1,839 Status: Offline |
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Lookebe wrote: Depending on color Machine polishing will leave swirl marks if it's an orbital polisher. A random orbital will leave less but still leave some of your not very carefull. Black is the worst to show them up. Red shouldn't be too bad. I'd spray it lightly with water and use something with a bit of cut in, auto glym paint renovator is very good, followed by meguairs carnauba plus wax will leave you amazed!  if a machine polisher will leave swirl marks how exactly would you suggest doing a paint restoration and de swirl? Also if you find the autoglym that good try something that is actually good like menzerna, 3m etc and you'll be the one that's amazed. Unfortunately mik is correct that no matter how good you are at paint correction all you will end up with on Peugeot red is 1 very shiny orange/pink car if it's faded so not really worth the money it'll cost. If it hasn't lost colour too badly and just lacking shine then its well worth it. A good clay and decent polish by hand is a good starting point to see what you've got to work with. ________________________________________ Ryan |
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Posted 29th Apr 2015 at 15:40
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demondriverdan
Seasoned Pro  Location: Londinium Registered: 29 Nov 2010 Posts: 2,665 Status: Offline |
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I've given up keeping the paint good on my 3, gonna have to get them repainted someday!________________________________________ Rallye Race Car |
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Posted 29th Apr 2015 at 15:45
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RetroPug
Seasoned Pro  Location: Leicestershire Registered: 15 Jan 2013 Posts: 2,473 Status: Offline |
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Ben_W wrote: Lookebe wrote: Depending on color Machine polishing will leave swirl marks if it's an orbital polisher. A random orbital will leave less but still leave some of your not very carefull. Black is the worst to show them up. Red shouldn't be too bad. I'd spray it lightly with water and use something with a bit of cut in, auto glym paint renovator is very good, followed by meguairs carnauba plus wax will leave you amazed! I'm sorry but what a load of s**te ^^^^^ that is. A properly used machine polished, whether it be a DA (dual action, random orbital type) or a Rotary, will, if used properly, remove swirling/scratches etc and return the paint to how it should be. To get the best results it's about know-how and application. I've a very good machine polished plus a range of.pads and compounds. I can polish most panels and remove swirl. I certainly do not add more..... How many tea, bacon and beers would it take to ply you into polishing mine? ________________________________________ 61k miles Ph.1 Diablo '6 Project Thread |
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Posted 29th Apr 2015 at 18:41
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Kenan
Regular Location: Exmouth Registered: 20 Oct 2013 Posts: 307 Status: Offline |
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Yeah turns out a guy a couple of roads over from me does valating and confirmed that only option is to paint her.I did however give her a clean/polish and she come up well but the back end is fading. |
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Posted 29th Apr 2015 at 19:51
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demondriverdan
Seasoned Pro Location: Londinium Registered: 29 Nov 2010 Posts: 2,665 Status: Offline |
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Kenan wrote: I did however give her a clean/polish and she come up well but the back end is fading. Exactly the same problem I have. Looks good but only temporarily. I keep mine in a garage in the hope that keeping the sun off will help stop the fading! ________________________________________ Rallye Race Car |
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Posted 29th Apr 2015 at 19:58
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Ben_W
Formerly gpm Location: Lutterworth Registered: 01 Sep 2007 Posts: 2,941 Status: Offline |
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RetroPug wrote: Ben_W wrote: Lookebe wrote: Depending on color Machine polishing will leave swirl marks if it's an orbital polisher. A random orbital will leave less but still leave some of your not very carefull. Black is the worst to show them up. Red shouldn't be too bad. I'd spray it lightly with water and use something with a bit of cut in, auto glym paint renovator is very good, followed by meguairs carnauba plus wax will leave you amazed! I'm sorry but what a load of s**te ^^^^^ that is. A properly used machine polished, whether it be a DA (dual action, random orbital type) or a Rotary, will, if used properly, remove swirling/scratches etc and return the paint to how it should be. To get the best results it's about know-how and application. I've a very good machine polished plus a range of.pads and compounds. I can polish most panels and remove swirl. I certainly do not add more..... How many tea, bacon and beers would it take to ply you into polishing mine? A number of Henry Westons Vintage ciders, a cob with half a pig and some brown sauce and you've a deal. An example.of what I can achieve.... A 50/50 on a proper swirly almost Brown looking black astral  The wife's mini  The roof reflection shot once I'd finished...  ________________________________________ Cherry Red Rallye .... On going OEM spec restoChina Blue GTi6 .... Weekend toy Black 208 GTi .... Wife's car now Silver BMW 550i.... The executive missile |
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Posted 29th Apr 2015 at 20:25
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Ben_W
Formerly gpm Location: Lutterworth Registered: 01 Sep 2007 Posts: 2,941 Status: Offline |
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And a link to a quick detail I did on the rear quarter of the Audi a3 the woman who lives opposite me owns...http://www.detailingworld.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?t=359613 Unless you've burned off all the lacquer, or the panel is properly fu ________________________________________ Cherry Red Rallye .... On going OEM spec restoChina Blue GTi6 .... Weekend toy Black 208 GTi .... Wife's car now Silver BMW 550i.... The executive missile |
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Posted 29th Apr 2015 at 20:20
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Lookebe
Newbie Location: Holme, Kendal Registered: 08 Dec 2014 Posts: 16 Status: Offline |
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The guy said he knows very little about it doing this. He probably doesn't have access to many different pads and polishes, so I have him a cheap and easy way to machine polish his car with little chance of making a mess of his car. I've seen people burning the paint with machines and making a right mess when not knowing what there doing. By the sounds of it and look of your work you obviously know what your doing. I'll keep my opinion to myself in future. |
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Posted 1st May 2015 at 20:07
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Ben_W
Formerly gpm Location: Lutterworth Registered: 01 Sep 2007 Posts: 2,941 Status: Offline |
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It's pretty hard with a DA to burn though lacquer. Unless you are being a complete tool, it's not going to happen.Slightly easier to do with a Rotary but again, you've got to go some. I do know a bit. Got some decent gear, took the time to learn how to use it. Hence I can get the results above Don't hold back on the opinion, just don't take what someone else might say as gospel ________________________________________ Cherry Red Rallye .... On going OEM spec restoChina Blue GTi6 .... Weekend toy Black 208 GTi .... Wife's car now Silver BMW 550i.... The executive missile |
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Posted 1st May 2015 at 20:17
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Kenan
Regular Location: Exmouth Registered: 20 Oct 2013 Posts: 307 Status: Offline |
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Well this is how I got on cleaning...Snowing this time of year?  And shes done  Close up (ish)  Now with new "Modification"  |
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Posted 1st May 2015 at 22:17
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mik
Seasoned Pro Location: Kent Registered: 17 Feb 2011 Posts: 2,100 Status: Offline |
Post #20
Cherry Red looks great when properly polished up. I'll get mine looking like that one day. ________________________________________ Cherry Rallye SOLD |
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Posted 9th May 2015 at 14:01
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