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 pauldoubleyou
Junior User  Location: Glasgow Registered: 13 Sep 2014 Posts: 78 Status: Offline |
Post #1
Ok I'm still debodging the previous owners hard work. Where is the dipstick tube bolted to as standard? Mine is sort of hidden under the scuttle and unbolted. It's not flapping around.. But just in the wrong place as far as I can see. Anyone got a photo of its usual place? ________________________________________ PaulHiding with Pride |
 Posted 7th Oct 2014 at 17:28
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scotzman
Seasoned Pro  Location: Dundee Registered: 24 Jun 2011 Posts: 1,408 Status: Offline |
Post #2
Should come up through the inlet manifold. So yours is way wrong.________________________________________ '90 1.6 205 GTi, '98 306 GTi-6 |
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Posted 7th Oct 2014 at 17:31
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scotzman
Seasoned Pro Location: Dundee Registered: 24 Jun 2011 Posts: 1,408 Status: Offline |
Post #3
Are you sure you don't mean the slam panel? I can't see how it could possibly be beside the scuttle panel?________________________________________ '90 1.6 205 GTi, '98 306 GTi-6 |
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Posted 7th Oct 2014 at 17:36
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jamiek_uk2000
Seasoned Pro  Location: Llanelli Registered: 18 Apr 2009 Posts: 1,925 Status: Offline |
Post #4
Unless they put an extra long super bendy one on  ________________________________________ 205 GTi Red - G939 RTU - Died!306 GTi 6 Diablo - Being resurrected! Project Thread Looking for: VTS P1 Rack PR1.2 16" |
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Posted 7th Oct 2014 at 18:37
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pauldoubleyou
Junior User Location: Glasgow Registered: 13 Sep 2014 Posts: 78 Status: Offline |
Post #5
It's under the brake servo.. As with a few things with this motor.. f**k knows how or why. I'm just here to square it away ________________________________________ PaulHiding with Pride |
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Posted 7th Oct 2014 at 21:14
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welshpug!
Capt Pedantic  Location: Bigend, Wales. Registered: 27 Mar 2007 Posts: 25,838 Status: Offline |
Post #6
it should be in the middle of the inlet manifold on the RFS engine, the older RFY S16 engine had it on the back coming up over the back of the head but its a different dipstick + tube and head, the hole isn't even there on a gti6 block IIRC! though the casting is the same just not drilled. ________________________________________ need a part number? get on here - http://public.servicebox.peugeot.comBring on the Trumpets. |
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Posted 7th Oct 2014 at 21:36
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pauldoubleyou
Junior User Location: Glasgow Registered: 13 Sep 2014 Posts: 78 Status: Offline |
Post #7
God knows. Chances are its either a) a massive bodge or a) its a massive bodge. Theres so much about this car that just points to the previous lad having a play with no actual experience of what goes where. Luckily - its pretty limited to bits like this and nothing more serious. Ive managed to work from the back of the car to the front restoring to OEM and now im at the bay. It seems to come up from the back of the block, up the drivers side of the exhaust manifold and sort of sits at the back of the timing covers and pressing against the chassis rail. Its dark at the moment but ill take some pics tomorrow just for the lols. ________________________________________ PaulHiding with Pride |
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Posted 7th Oct 2014 at 22:25
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welshpug!
Capt Pedantic Location: Bigend, Wales. Registered: 27 Mar 2007 Posts: 25,838 Status: Offline |
Post #8
that kinda suggests to me its an rfy bottom end not a gti6 one.________________________________________ need a part number? get on here - http://public.servicebox.peugeot.comBring on the Trumpets. |
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Posted 7th Oct 2014 at 22:33
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rikky
🦔 Location: cheshire Registered: 28 Feb 2004 Posts: 26,795 Status: Online |
Post #9
jimmyhackers has probably been doing something to it..________________________________________ 306 rallye reproduction decals (full sets/individual decals) | 306 b-pillar textured vinyl weatherstrips306 slam panel esso stickers | 306 yellow / orange / pension fund red side door badges gti6 inlet manifold badges | 306 rear boot badges (p2/p3) winner of Extraction of toys from prams with outstanding vigour award 2009 [source: gti6 owners club] |
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Posted 7th Oct 2014 at 22:37
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pauldoubleyou
Junior User Location: Glasgow Registered: 13 Sep 2014 Posts: 78 Status: Offline |
Post #10
Well, i thought just the dipstick was knackered but after your replies ive been out and had a look. My concerns are a) this dipstick is useless  why is it there, c) whats blocking the original hole and d) is there an original hole?Anyway i took some quick pics:   Fun eh. welshpug, ive had a read up on the engines and the differences between them. That would almost make sense as the car came with a s**tload of S16 spares in the boot. Its quite obvious the engine has just been out, and overhauled, and i even have the receipt of the guys who did it. Id be keen to see what and why. I can only presume due to the lower compression ratio i presumably would get with the S16 block / crank (who knows what cranks in it), it would have some effects on power / weight / performance / torque etc.  ________________________________________ PaulHiding with Pride |
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Posted 7th Oct 2014 at 23:23
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jamiek_uk2000
Seasoned Pro Location: Llanelli Registered: 18 Apr 2009 Posts: 1,925 Status: Offline |
Post #11
That is not a GTi6 block. There should not be exhaust wrap in the same pic as your dipstick on a GTi6. It's a S16 all the way. What is the reg on the car? Why is there an S16 in what they sell as a GTi6?________________________________________ 205 GTi Red - G939 RTU - Died!306 GTi 6 Diablo - Being resurrected! Project Thread Looking for: VTS P1 Rack PR1.2 16" |
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Posted 8th Oct 2014 at 00:07
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rikky
🦔 Location: cheshire Registered: 28 Feb 2004 Posts: 26,795 Status: Online |
Post #12
on my RFY lump the dipstick came from there and ended up behind the middle of the head at the back________________________________________ 306 rallye reproduction decals (full sets/individual decals) | 306 b-pillar textured vinyl weatherstrips306 slam panel esso stickers | 306 yellow / orange / pension fund red side door badges gti6 inlet manifold badges | 306 rear boot badges (p2/p3) winner of Extraction of toys from prams with outstanding vigour award 2009 [source: gti6 owners club] |
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Posted 8th Oct 2014 at 07:16
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welshpug!
Capt Pedantic Location: Bigend, Wales. Registered: 27 Mar 2007 Posts: 25,838 Status: Offline |
Post #13
it wont be lower compression.itll be the same crank, get a bore scope down the plug hole and check which pistons are in there. 4 small cutouts = gti6, 4 large pronounced cutouts = s16/mi16. check the bottom pulley, single bolt is gti6, single bolt and 4 bolt aux pulley is s16. ________________________________________ need a part number? get on here - http://public.servicebox.peugeot.comBring on the Trumpets. |
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Posted 8th Oct 2014 at 07:53
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pauldoubleyou
Junior User Location: Glasgow Registered: 13 Sep 2014 Posts: 78 Status: Offline |
Post #14
Ok thanks, great info. I'll have a look. What I thinks happened is the original engine died, bought an s16 donor car, fitted s16 bottom end. Solves whyb why the boot was full of s16 bits. I do have a receipt for loads of engine work but it doesn't specify where the bits cane from. Makes sense though. Essentially, what am I looking at if this is an s16 bottom end? Negatives? Positives? ________________________________________ PaulHiding with Pride |
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Posted 9th Oct 2014 at 19:34
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welshpug!
Capt Pedantic Location: Bigend, Wales. Registered: 27 Mar 2007 Posts: 25,838 Status: Offline |
Post #15
S16 bottom end has heavier pistons and shorter rods, will be older and typically more worn, pistons have nice big cutouts though.the earliest didn't have windage trays or a baffled sump, has it had the large winged gti6 sump fitted? ________________________________________ need a part number? get on here - http://public.servicebox.peugeot.comBring on the Trumpets. |
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Posted 8th Oct 2014 at 08:18
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pauldoubleyou
Junior User Location: Glasgow Registered: 13 Sep 2014 Posts: 78 Status: Offline |
Post #16
I'll have a look. The entire engine has had new bearings, shells, valves etc, and shows if I'm honest. I understand if it does has the deeper dishes in the crowns it would be better for fitting uprated cams, which may be a positive. I'm getting home from work and will have a look at the sump and crank. ________________________________________ PaulHiding with Pride |
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Posted 8th Oct 2014 at 18:36
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pauldoubleyou
Junior User Location: Glasgow Registered: 13 Sep 2014 Posts: 78 Status: Offline |
Post #17
Hi again guys ok well I'd say it's an s16 bottom end. Not sure when you mean winged sump but here's the sump. I don't have a bore scope at all, but I'll see what I can do.   ________________________________________ PaulHiding with Pride |
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Posted 9th Oct 2014 at 19:32
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welshpug!
Capt Pedantic Location: Bigend, Wales. Registered: 27 Mar 2007 Posts: 25,838 Status: Offline |
Post #18
its the gearbox end that has additional fixing points to the 6 speed gearbox.bottom pulley is an S16 one. ________________________________________ need a part number? get on here - http://public.servicebox.peugeot.comBring on the Trumpets. |
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Posted 9th Oct 2014 at 19:42
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pauldoubleyou
Junior User Location: Glasgow Registered: 13 Sep 2014 Posts: 78 Status: Offline |
Post #19
jamiek_uk2000 wrote: That is not a GTi6 block. There should not be exhaust wrap in the same pic as your dipstick on a GTi6. It's a S16 all the way. What is the reg on the car? Why is there an S16 in what they sell as a GTi6? I'd say it's just the bottom end, it's an S / 98. Rest if the engine is as it should be. I'm hoping for s16 pistons tbh as if I have, it means I can buy a little bit wilder cams. ________________________________________ PaulHiding with Pride |
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Posted 9th Oct 2014 at 20:12
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welshpug!
Capt Pedantic Location: Bigend, Wales. Registered: 27 Mar 2007 Posts: 25,838 Status: Offline |
Post #20
not really, you'll just be able to time the commonly used ones up properly, much wilder cams than the common ones tend not to work with the standard valve springs and spray bars.________________________________________ need a part number? get on here - http://public.servicebox.peugeot.comBring on the Trumpets. |
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Posted 9th Oct 2014 at 20:18
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pauldoubleyou
Junior User Location: Glasgow Registered: 13 Sep 2014 Posts: 78 Status: Offline |
Post #21
Ah ok. I paniced for a bit that i had a full S16 in the thing, but no. Ive double checked!________________________________________ PaulHiding with Pride |
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Posted 9th Oct 2014 at 21:44
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welshpug!
Capt Pedantic Location: Bigend, Wales. Registered: 27 Mar 2007 Posts: 25,838 Status: Offline |
Post #22
wouldn't be a bad thing entirely, they respond better to mild tuning throttle bodies etc.________________________________________ need a part number? get on here - http://public.servicebox.peugeot.comBring on the Trumpets. |
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Posted 9th Oct 2014 at 21:47
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pauldoubleyou
Junior User Location: Glasgow Registered: 13 Sep 2014 Posts: 78 Status: Offline |
Post #23
Im a bit miffed that the guy who sold me it didnt mention it, but to be honest i doubt he knew. Ive emailed him but i doubt ill get a reply. So you reckon the dipstick comes up through the exhaust manifold and to the back of the head? Ill pull it and put it in properly if i can. ________________________________________ PaulHiding with Pride |
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Posted 9th Oct 2014 at 22:02
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