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welshpug!

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Post #26
to add, just followed the link, fook that, that's expensive for used tat!

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Posted 29th Oct 2014 at 17:23
orta

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No redeeming qualities? Would they improve things whilst I save for the B8s?

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Posted 29th Oct 2014 at 17:23
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Post #28
there was someone selling Gaz Golds on here for £100. Not sure who though. It was in amongst a lot of other stuff they were selling

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Posted 29th Oct 2014 at 17:26
welshpug!

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Post #29
orta wrote:
No redeeming qualities? Would they improve things whilst I save for the B8s?


depends what you have now, if you have standard they'll be better unless they're leaking.

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Posted 29th Oct 2014 at 17:32
orta

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Post #30
I'm standard yeah. As Blistein are ££££ I was hoping these would see me 6 months of use until I can get me some...

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Posted 29th Oct 2014 at 17:36
barrym

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Post #31
orta, when I got my rallye it was fitted with raceland shocks. Whilst this is obviously not empirical data they are probably the same quality going by price.

They were awful mate. For that sort of money stay as is or fresh standard quality

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Posted 29th Oct 2014 at 17:51
orta

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Post #32
barrym wrote:
orta, when I got my rallye it was fitted with raceland shocks. Whilst this is obviously not empirical data they are probably the same quality going by price.

They were awful mate. For that sort of money stay as is or fresh standard quality


*unwatches gmax*

Done some more digging. Avosprings any good? And would I need to do anything special for a 50mm drop on 15"s ?

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Posted 29th Oct 2014 at 19:38
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raise it up 20mm LOL

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Posted 29th Oct 2014 at 19:44
SmartyC

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Post #34
The KYB Ultra SR dampers that I fitted are very good on the road - well worth a punt if you can't afford Billies...

Thanks for the confirmation about the Citroen P bushes - need some now!

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Posted 30th Oct 2014 at 13:12
gwyn rallye

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Post #35
I personally wouldn't go lower than a 30mm drop for fast road. Ive always found eibach springs brilliant, cheapo stuff is crashy and s**te. Had Eibachs on new standard shocks and new Bilstein B8's. They were both awesome for road use, Bilsteins were obviously slightly firmer. Can't comment for track use though. As other's have said, I would definitely invest in new quality wishbones/ TRE's/ top mounts/ rear beam bushes.

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Posted 30th Oct 2014 at 13:26
gilesy

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Living in London, roller bearing wishbones were a mistake!!
Posted 30th Oct 2014 at 18:32
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Post #37
gilesy wrote:
Living in London, owning a car was a mistake!!


EFA Thumbs up

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Posted 30th Oct 2014 at 19:50
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jamiek_uk2000 wrote:
gilesy wrote:
Living in London was a mistake!!


EFA Thumbs up


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Posted 30th Oct 2014 at 21:01
TomGC

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Post #39
Don't put the low (stiff) Eibach springs on standard (or cheap eGay) dampers - the rates will be mismatched and you'll be bouncing around all over the place! This was what my car was like when I bought it. I now have B8s (as I have previously run these on a BMW) and haven't looked back on either car. The ride is firm, but bumps will not unsettle the car. Weight transfer is exceptionally well controlled. You can tell where the money goes - a spring is just a spring, but the dampers make the car.

The rear beam on mine is standard save for a hybrid ARB. This does a nice job of countering the inherent understeer you will bring by stiffening the front in isolation. Together with a slightly nose-down stance to aid weight distribution (easily done with a refreshed beam and lower front springs), I have found this to make a nice balance for the road. I run the 195/50 Michelin Pilot Sport 3 due to value, which also gives you a slightly shorter final gear. I would guess going much lower than -30mm on 195/50s will see your exhaust on the deck everywhere.

+1 on doing the easy / cheap bits first. Not all the parts have to be changed at once. You can use the original wishbone and just replace the consumables. I would spend more than £7 on a ball joint - a lot of load goes through it. I wanted but couldn't afford the roller bearing wishbones, instead going for Powerflex black polyurethane (track spec) front wishbone bushes. They haven't received a good rep on this forum, mainly because their lower engine mounts are s**te. So far though, the wishbone bushes have been good. I can't say how much better than OE they are, if at all, but I didn't fancy changing P-bushes every 5k miles. They are slightly harsher when running over cats' eyes etc., but no worse than the dashboard will already rattle in a 100k + mile 306.
Posted 31st Oct 2014 at 09:46
welshpug!

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Post #40
eibach work fine on standard (not worn out) dampers.

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Posted 31st Oct 2014 at 11:27
orta

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Went with the blisteinsThumbs up

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Posted 31st Oct 2014 at 12:53
TomGC

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Post #42
Nice one. Would probably be worth giving them a bit of a clean up and throwing some dust boots on there before they hit the road for winter. Mine also have external bump stops fitted, although I'm not sure if this is necessary on these.

I should probably add that my bouncy experience was courtesy of some £30 Sachs dampers, and only really became noticeable when pushing on.
Posted 31st Oct 2014 at 13:46
orta

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Post #43
Cheers buddy. Anyone recommend some good bump stops?

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Posted 31st Oct 2014 at 18:08
TomGC

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I think I got mine from a local motor factor, as a kit with the dust boots. But I'm not sure.
Posted 31st Oct 2014 at 22:54
bigbadbowen

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Post #45
welshpug! wrote:
eibach work fine on standard (not worn out) dampers.


But don't lower the front end much over standard as the b8s have shorter bodies Yes
Posted 1st Nov 2014 at 00:14
bigbadbowen

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Post #46
orta wrote:
Cheers buddy. Anyone recommend some good bump stops?


Cut down some std bump stops bud job done Thumbs up
Posted 1st Nov 2014 at 00:15
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Maybe clean up the shocks and repainted them as well bud -
Posted 1st Nov 2014 at 00:17
orta

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Post #48
bigbadbowen wrote:
Maybe clean up the shocks and repainted them as well bud -


Yeah gonna. Was planning to use usual heat resistant paint? That do the job?

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Posted 1st Nov 2014 at 19:24
orta

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Post #49
bigbadbowen wrote:
orta wrote:
Cheers buddy. Anyone recommend some good bump stops?


Cut down some std bump stops bud job done Thumbs up


Cool. I'll get sum news ones and do that when I do the whole suspension sort.

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Posted 1st Nov 2014 at 19:25
TomGC

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Post #50
Was just digging through my service history on an unrelated matter. I got my bump stops from Parkers (you have one in Grantham) - part no. FIRFPK7032, listed as Berlingo Strut Protector. £22 for the whole kit.
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