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Tarmac terror

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Hi Folks. Oddest thing happened yesterday...

Just shifting the cars around the drive, while reversing car stalled and when I tried to restart there was no life from starter at all.

Now,
Battery in good order
fuel pump primes
inertia switch reset
Under dash fuses all intact

When turning key to start. the dash lights are on but the clock goes out while the key is turned.
I cannot for the life of me think why it would not even engage the starter..

Now, a dud battery would usually either crank the car in a really sluggish fashion or, if really flat, would dim/extinguish the dash lights when cranking so I'm confident I can rule that out. Its odd how it was running/starting fine and then after a stall, wasn't having any of it!!!

How would the immobiliser react if, for example, I removed the chip in the key fob??



Any ideas???? Would connecting to PP possibly flag up something??


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Posted 26th Aug 2014 at 16:09
Nick.gti6

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Earth under rear bench?
Posted 26th Aug 2014 at 16:11
dangti6

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I'm no expert but in your shoes I'd probably be putting power direct to the starter - with the key in/near the ignition so that the immobiliser is overridden. If it cranks then but doesn't kick to life, I'd check fuel/spark and see if the immobiliser is the culprit.

I'd then break it for parts if I couldn't work it out.

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  • Posted 26th Aug 2014 at 16:20
    ryangti6

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    Post #4
    Starters do just do that sometimes, some click etc but others can just completely die. It could also be the actual ignition barrel, It's happened to me in the past.

    First thing I'd do is See if the car bump starts, assuming it will try dans suggestion and power the starter manually, if it works then get a voltage tester on the barrel and see if that's working.

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    Posted 26th Aug 2014 at 16:39
    chiefton

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    Post #5
    I had this and changed the starter fine for ages but very very occasionally does it again and iv a known good bosch battery on her but couldnt figure out why still does it!!!!

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    Posted 26th Aug 2014 at 17:13
    Tarmac terror

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    Post #6
    Any petrol 306 starter do or is there a GTI specific one??

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    Posted 26th Aug 2014 at 18:43
    ryangti6

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    Post #7
    Make sure it is off a petrol or diesel with a be gearbox and it should fit fine.

    The 1.4 and 1.6 tu engines use an ma gearbox and they won't fit but any other should be fine

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    Posted 26th Aug 2014 at 19:52
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    Posted 26th Aug 2014 at 20:18
    allanallen

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    Check the battery is connected properly first then as mentioned bridge the lives on the starter to check if that's the culprit.

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    Posted 26th Aug 2014 at 20:17
    chiefton

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    Post #10
    You get to bottom of this as iv now put new battery and a good starter and still sometimes I get nothing at all when trying to start her up!?

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    Posted 15th Sep 2014 at 10:53
    Tarmac terror

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    Yes Mark, replaced starter and all is good. Still have an annoying random cut-out which is another issue entirely.....Sad



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    Posted 20th Sep 2014 at 14:40
    Cjwatson27

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    You checked your earths mate ?

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    Posted 20th Sep 2014 at 14:45
    pauldoubleyou

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    Post #13
    Ive had this exact problem and it turned out to be crud on the pos wire to the starter. Cleaned it all up and solved it straight away.

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    Posted 21st Sep 2014 at 21:45
    chiefton

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    Yeah think im gunna clean my earths and check wires at starter!

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    Posted 21st Sep 2014 at 22:00

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