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 tom_g205
Junior User  Location: Saxmundham Registered: 17 Jun 2009 Posts: 82 Status: Offline |
Post #26
I would like a full system but funding says no at the moment. I understand the exhaust isn't ideal at the moment but it's something I will have to leave for the moment.So a satchell inlet it is for now and see what happens. Fingers crossed it makes me happier than it did today. ________________________________________ 205 GTi-6 every day motor205 GTi-6 weekend/track car - project 230 N/A fingers crossed. |
 Posted 28th Jul 2014 at 21:40
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tom_g205
Junior User Location: Saxmundham Registered: 17 Jun 2009 Posts: 82 Status: Offline |
Post #27
Day666 wrote: quote: DAY666, the cams are solid profiles so not that re-saleable unfortunately. What a shame !!!!! I'm sure you chaps can help & save him shed loads of money ? Sounds like he's nearly there ... I would be pulling my hair out knowing its more than a capable engine ... Willing to buy 48s ....means he's dead keen on that manic number . Tom ....don't spend anymore money .!!!!!.....for what it's worth ...If it was ME .....I would 100% be visiting Mr Brown & Mr Satchell. Sounds like you need someone now to sort the last final bits out .! I was rather gutted today but I just want to get it sorted and I have a track day on the 7th so wanted it sorted for then. I'm iff to a different mapper though in Monday so hopefully he will bring me some light. Just need to get a satchell inlet on order and hope he has one on the shelf. ________________________________________ 205 GTi-6 every day motor205 GTi-6 weekend/track car - project 230 N/A fingers crossed. |
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Posted 28th Jul 2014 at 21:46
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welshpug!
Capt Pedantic  Location: Bigend, Wales. Registered: 27 Mar 2007 Posts: 25,838 Status: Offline |
Post #28
give miles a shout, I believe he may have stocks.________________________________________ need a part number? get on here - http://public.servicebox.peugeot.comBring on the Trumpets. |
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Posted 28th Jul 2014 at 21:48
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bigbadbowen
Seasoned Pro  Location: Winchester Registered: 21 Nov 2003 Posts: 13,753 Status: Offline |
Post #29
Think your chucking money away until you can get a proper exhaust system to be honest. You must have some cash from not buying the jenveys ? Cancell mapping and your almost at the exhaust figure ? Speak to dave at maniflow and see if he will do a cash deal on a full system ? I know 750 cash will get a full race system oh and sound the t1ts as well |
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Posted 28th Jul 2014 at 21:48
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matty_rallye
Senior User  Location: Devizes Registered: 28 Oct 2005 Posts: 966 Status: Offline |
Post #30
As said something isn't quite right with that spec to only make that power. On milder cams, standard bottom end and 45's with kms ecu years ago mine made about 208 bhp. 45'S won't limit at that level, neither will the exhaust mani as mine made nearly 230 on the standard exhaust manifold on the later spec.________________________________________ 2.1 16v 306 Rallye. |
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Posted 28th Jul 2014 at 21:48
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bigbadbowen
Seasoned Pro Location: Winchester Registered: 21 Nov 2003 Posts: 13,753 Status: Offline |
Post #31
Are you running open trumpets ? I mean is there a backing plate and filter ? |
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Posted 28th Jul 2014 at 21:54
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tom_g205
Junior User Location: Saxmundham Registered: 17 Jun 2009 Posts: 82 Status: Offline |
Post #32
I have double sock style filters currently. I think the cam timing needs checking and a satchell inlet fitting Then give it another go on the rollers. ________________________________________ 205 GTi-6 every day motor205 GTi-6 weekend/track car - project 230 N/A fingers crossed. |
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Posted 28th Jul 2014 at 22:06
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tom_g205
Junior User Location: Saxmundham Registered: 17 Jun 2009 Posts: 82 Status: Offline |
Post #33
welshpug! wrote: give miles a shout, I believe he may have stocks. He does. He's not in work until Thursday though. ________________________________________ 205 GTi-6 every day motor205 GTi-6 weekend/track car - project 230 N/A fingers crossed. |
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Posted 28th Jul 2014 at 22:08
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welshpug!
Capt Pedantic Location: Bigend, Wales. Registered: 27 Mar 2007 Posts: 25,838 Status: Offline |
Post #34
AH! fecking socks!! bin them asap, that'll be a big chunk of your missing geegees.________________________________________ need a part number? get on here - http://public.servicebox.peugeot.comBring on the Trumpets. |
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Posted 28th Jul 2014 at 22:16
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bigbadbowen
Seasoned Pro Location: Winchester Registered: 21 Nov 2003 Posts: 13,753 Status: Offline |
Post #35
A proper backing plate near the open end of some proper trumpets may help ? I do airflow for a living so know a thing or 2 about how air behaves when being pulled into something |
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Posted 28th Jul 2014 at 22:18
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Day666
Seasoned Pro  Location: Bristol Registered: 20 Apr 2013 Posts: 5,214 Status: Offline |
Post #36
tom_g205 wrote: welshpug! wrote: give miles a shout, I believe he may have stocks. He does. He's not in work until Thursday though. Bought my 3j plate diff & other bits off Miles ....he's got to be one of the most laid back people I have met & spoken to !!!! Very helpful though  Has the life of Reilly by the sound of it .... Be careful of Rolling road figures ????.....some are up & some down .....Keep your chin up Tom ....nearly there m8 . Good to try several good ones .!!!!!! |
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Posted 28th Jul 2014 at 22:22
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tom_g205
Junior User Location: Saxmundham Registered: 17 Jun 2009 Posts: 82 Status: Offline |
Post #37
So do you think I should use adjustable trumpets on the rollers to gauge the length I need then purchase fixed length ones?________________________________________ 205 GTi-6 every day motor205 GTi-6 weekend/track car - project 230 N/A fingers crossed. |
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Posted 28th Jul 2014 at 23:06
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welshpug!
Capt Pedantic Location: Bigend, Wales. Registered: 27 Mar 2007 Posts: 25,838 Status: Offline |
Post #38
yes if you have them certainly they would help, though being slightly smaller bore might throw the length out a bit, you need to consider the shape of the replacements too, depends a lot on your engine/cam setup, but Sandy has noted that Colin's straight sided short radius trumpet gives better results than a long taper like a jenvey trumpet.________________________________________ need a part number? get on here - http://public.servicebox.peugeot.comBring on the Trumpets. |
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Posted 28th Jul 2014 at 23:11
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tom_g205
Junior User Location: Saxmundham Registered: 17 Jun 2009 Posts: 82 Status: Offline |
Post #39
Ok many thanks for everyone's help tonight. Saved me a £850 bill for 48's fingers crossed and I will get there in the end. My plan for now is to get a satchell inlet thrown on with my adjustable trumpets and see what my new mapper comes up with. It can't be any worse than today tbh. Again many thanks for the help. ________________________________________ 205 GTi-6 every day motor205 GTi-6 weekend/track car - project 230 N/A fingers crossed. |
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Posted 28th Jul 2014 at 23:22
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Day666
Seasoned Pro Location: Bristol Registered: 20 Apr 2013 Posts: 5,214 Status: Offline |
Post #40
So glad you listened to the Lads on here who know !!!!!Please keep us up dated Tom Keep smiling m8 |
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Posted 28th Jul 2014 at 23:40
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tom_g205
Junior User Location: Saxmundham Registered: 17 Jun 2009 Posts: 82 Status: Offline |
Post #41
Day666 wrote: So glad you listened to the Lads on here who know !!!!! Please keep us up dated Tom Keep smiling m8 It's the problem when you told different things by so many people. You don't know which to go for. But I will be trying my best and trying not to rush things I will keep you updated for sure. One last thing. Do you think my exhaust cam timing is out. I will upload a picture. ________________________________________ 205 GTi-6 every day motor205 GTi-6 weekend/track car - project 230 N/A fingers crossed. |
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Posted 28th Jul 2014 at 23:50
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tom_g205
Junior User Location: Saxmundham Registered: 17 Jun 2009 Posts: 82 Status: Offline |
Post #42
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Posted 28th Jul 2014 at 23:55
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tom_g205
Junior User Location: Saxmundham Registered: 17 Jun 2009 Posts: 82 Status: Offline |
Post #43
The inlet cam is aligned and the exhaust pulley is all the way to one side. Do you think this should be central to ? ________________________________________ 205 GTi-6 every day motor205 GTi-6 weekend/track car - project 230 N/A fingers crossed. |
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Posted 28th Jul 2014 at 23:56
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adam b
Seasoned Pro  Location: The Nam Registered: 24 Jan 2006 Posts: 12,828 Status: Offline |
Post #44
Don't be too hung up on the figure, just look at the shape of the graph if it's a dyno, which is what you have done. ________________________________________ Nothing to see here |
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Posted 29th Jul 2014 at 07:00
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welshpug!
Capt Pedantic Location: Bigend, Wales. Registered: 27 Mar 2007 Posts: 25,838 Status: Offline |
Post #45
you need a dial gauge to do the timing.________________________________________ need a part number? get on here - http://public.servicebox.peugeot.comBring on the Trumpets. |
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Posted 29th Jul 2014 at 07:29
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tom_g205
Junior User Location: Saxmundham Registered: 17 Jun 2009 Posts: 82 Status: Offline |
Post #46
It's going to be checked Monday again. ________________________________________ 205 GTi-6 every day motor205 GTi-6 weekend/track car - project 230 N/A fingers crossed. |
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Posted 29th Jul 2014 at 09:24
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jammapic
Senior User  Location: Manchester Registered: 11 Jun 2010 Posts: 778 Status: Offline |
Post #47
FYI, those sock filters lost me 13hp when compared with a sausage filter and backplate...JP ________________________________________ HDI Engine Tuning / Remapping Services - https://www.facebook.com/dervtech306 GTi-6 Track Car - 200+ hp all N/A! 306 DTurbo Track beasty - 209.9hp - RIP |
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Posted 29th Jul 2014 at 10:27
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tom_g205
Junior User Location: Saxmundham Registered: 17 Jun 2009 Posts: 82 Status: Offline |
Post #48
I will be fitting a backplate so that will be sorted for Monday. So fingers crossed I have a better result. Cheers for all the help. ________________________________________ 205 GTi-6 every day motor205 GTi-6 weekend/track car - project 230 N/A fingers crossed. |
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Posted 29th Jul 2014 at 14:24
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tom_g205
Junior User Location: Saxmundham Registered: 17 Jun 2009 Posts: 82 Status: Offline |
Post #49
I managed to get the dyno graphs today there are two runs.  ________________________________________ 205 GTi-6 every day motor205 GTi-6 weekend/track car - project 230 N/A fingers crossed. |
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Posted 29th Jul 2014 at 17:21
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Day666
Seasoned Pro Location: Bristol Registered: 20 Apr 2013 Posts: 5,214 Status: Offline |
Post #50
jammapic wrote: FYI, those sock filters lost me 13hp when compared with a sausage filter and backplate... JP Good info James TOM did you manage to cancel your 48s? |
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Posted 29th Jul 2014 at 18:14
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