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pugheaven

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Hi all iv been reading reviews on both of these tyres and can't make my mind up on which ones to get

Toyo r1r or nankang ns2r

What would you choose for track action?

Posted 14th Jul 2014 at 15:51
t3ora

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Wot size wheel will you be running
Both tyres you said am both to soft for track work so will wear out very fast

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Posted 14th Jul 2014 at 16:30
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AD08 get good reviews.

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Posted 14th Jul 2014 at 16:35
pugheaven

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225 40 18, from what iv read the 120 (medium) compound lasted pretty well with all track work!

I don't really want to spend more than £450 on the first set of tyres or else I would have got r888 but at half the price for the two mentioned above I don't mind them not lasting as long
Posted 14th Jul 2014 at 16:39
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You would be better off with used slicks with the amount of wheel you got you could run wets as well lol

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Posted 14th Jul 2014 at 17:35
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Post #6
R1R are more of a rain tyre.

Can you get 595RSRs in your size?

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Posted 14th Jul 2014 at 17:41
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Get some smaller diameter wheels for track use. Give you more tyre choice at lower cost

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Posted 14th Jul 2014 at 18:26
pugheaven

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Yep the federal 595s don't get very good reviews from what iv seen, I am going to get used slicks for my other set of wheels
Posted 14th Jul 2014 at 18:31
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Post #9
Smaller wheels will look stupid on the dimma and 17" tyres are not that much cheaper
Posted 14th Jul 2014 at 18:32
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Dunlop Dz03g by far the best tyre I've ever used & pro guys at Castle Coombe put me on to them.!!!

Not sure on Price ...ring the distributor below & he will let you have them Discount ...great to deal with my 16s were £115.00 each plus vat !
Worth the extra & not many people have seen them
Wouldn't go for anything else now Thumbs up

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Posted 14th Jul 2014 at 18:36
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I was thinking more 15s or 16s.

If they are only for track use yoiu can radically change the size as you don't have to worry about the speedo reading true, and surely handling comes above looking cool?

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Posted 14th Jul 2014 at 18:41
pugheaven

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Post #12
Those dunlops are just as exspensive as r888
The ns2r tyres are £440 for 4
The r1r tyres are £480

I know I shouldn't skimp on tyres as they are the most important part of the car when it comes to racing/track days and just driving in general but while I get used to the car and make changes to the geometry I don't want to scrub near on a grands worth of tyres when I can spend half that!
Posted 14th Jul 2014 at 18:41
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My brakes wouldn't fit under them for a start and it's not about looking cool its about not looking like a complete cock! Have you seen a dimma before? Plus ov been down the 15",16" and 17" route before with my old 6 and personally I preferef 17" due to having less side wall and less tyre flex!
Posted 14th Jul 2014 at 18:48
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A lot of btcc cars were running 245/650s so there'll be plenty of them about if you look. They're 20mm wider and about 10mm taller than your 225/40s though.

Ginetta g55s (btcc support cars) run staggered 18s so the front tyres may be worth looking for off them. I'll check the size of them for you tomorrow.

I've no experience of the new road/track type tyres but try ears (escort and rally spares) for a price on Dunlop direzzas, they 'may' be cheaper than you think, obviously more than £450 mind Wink

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Posted 14th Jul 2014 at 18:49
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I'm still going to get second hand slicks for the second set of wheels, the above tyres will just be for the occasional road driving and testing/setting up on the track and hopefully double up for wets too

I'm not going to compete in any races so don't need anything serious and competitive
Posted 14th Jul 2014 at 18:58
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will a 245x650xR18 fit? if they will, get on the hunt for BTCC part worns.

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Posted 14th Jul 2014 at 19:04
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Na they will be to wide, I'm looking at getting the Porsche cup cars front tyres for slicks as they seem to be the right size, or so I hope!
Iv seen some 210 650 18 that I will keep an eye on
Posted 14th Jul 2014 at 19:38
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Mates golf R32 thats pretty well touring car spec running camber and fully adjustable suspension etc runs R1R's and the cornering speeds are a joke! no idea about wet grip or how long they last though tbh.

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Posted 15th Jul 2014 at 13:57
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R888's USED to be the road-legal track tyre of choice but they are a bit old hat these days and have been given a licking by a fair few of the newer upstarts....especially the Dunlops!!
Of the 2 you mention in post #1, for me it would have to be the Nankang's although Dunlops would be preferable to both...


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Posted 16th Jul 2014 at 04:27
pugheaven

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I went for the ns2r's in the end, they should turn up today but I wont be able to give a review on them for a while
Posted 16th Jul 2014 at 12:36
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pugheaven wrote:
My brakes wouldn't fit under them for a start and it's not about looking cool its about not looking like a complete cock! Have you seen a dimma before? Plus ov been down the 15",16" and 17" route before with my old 6 and personally I preferef 17" due to having less side wall and less tyre flex!


Up to a point, low profile tyres feel faster due to quicker turn-in and less flex, but don't allow for as high lateral loads as possible as the sidewalls flexing to keep a large contact patch flat in contact with the road is what gives you the highest levels of grip.
As always, there is a balance somewhere in the middle. Typically race cars do not run low profile tyres, partially due to this.

That is however, not to try to convince you to choose any particular profile of tyre. I just find vehicle dynamics quite interesting.

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Posted 16th Jul 2014 at 14:15
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G55 fronts are 240/640 so only marginally smaller than the btcc tyres.

Porsche cup fronts are a good call, if you can't find any give me a shout as Martin did have a source as he ran them on his Subaru.

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Posted 16th Jul 2014 at 15:04
pugheaven

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Thanks for the offer dude but I'm a long way off needing slicks but I'll keep it in mind. Smile
Posted 16th Jul 2014 at 16:25
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Federal 201 mate cant knock them miles ahead of 888s as they in themselves are dangerous.

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Posted 16th Jul 2014 at 17:52
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Maybe not dangerous but incosistent

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