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 Rallyman
Junior User  Location: Glen Auldyn Registered: 04 Aug 2013 Posts: 67 Status: Offline |
Post #1
Hi, I have a sump guard which is currently fitted to the crossmember under the radiator, however it is not strong enough to take the knocks and is constantly having to be straightened out. Does anyone know of anybody that has strengthened this area for a sump guard? I am thinking of replacing the drop section and crossmember from the chasis legs entirely. Any thoughts on whether this is a good idea? |
 Posted 15th Jun 2014 at 21:23
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Niall
Seasoned Pro  Location: Epsom Registered: 06 Jun 2012 Posts: 1,941 Status: Offline |
Post #2
Yep i saw pics of someone who had replaced that cross member for a bit of unistrut a bit lower to lower their rad and i can tell you unistrut is bloody strong in comparison to whats already there |
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Posted 15th Jun 2014 at 21:27
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Rallyman
Junior User Location: Glen Auldyn Registered: 04 Aug 2013 Posts: 67 Status: Offline |
Post #3
Thanks Niall, I was thinking of a bent piece of steel to form the drop inside the bay and also along the front, then as you say unistrut along the front is a strong as anything! Hopefully will fend off the bumps! Thanks for your help Niall |
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Posted 15th Jun 2014 at 21:30
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devere
Senior User  Location: Saxtead Registered: 16 Dec 2008 Posts: 810 Status: Offline |
Post #4
I grab some pictures of mine shortly.My new car has the bottom rad cross member reinforced for the sum guard attachment. My previous setup had mountain ting points welded on to the chassis legs, where they meet the fro the panel area. They dripped down with bolt holes, and the sum guard attached to those. |
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Posted 15th Jun 2014 at 21:38
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Rallyman
Junior User Location: Glen Auldyn Registered: 04 Aug 2013 Posts: 67 Status: Offline |
Post #5
Thats great. Thanks, what is the spec our the 306 you are running? This one is the fourth 306 gti/rallye rally car I have had and there are still things I cant get quite right with it |
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Posted 15th Jun 2014 at 21:44
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devere
Senior User Location: Saxtead Registered: 16 Dec 2008 Posts: 810 Status: Offline |
Post #6
edThis is the bar I have under there. Nothing will move it, its bloody solid.  And the sump guard.  Needs a slight clean.. As for the car, I fully rebuilt the engine, forged rods, and pistons, race bearings etc. Worked head and bigger valves, big cams, uprated springs retainers etc, throttle bodies, 4-2-1 manifold. running on an omex. 6 speed dog box, Proflex suspension all round, with tubular wishbones on the front, bigger torsion bars and anti roll bar, and AP calipers front and back. |
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Posted 15th Jun 2014 at 22:22
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Rallyman
Junior User Location: Glen Auldyn Registered: 04 Aug 2013 Posts: 67 Status: Offline |
Post #7
Sounds very nice. Don't ever sell it without letting me know! How do you rate the proflex? I have Leda front coil overs and avo rears. Can't get the front high enough for rough forest events (hence the sump support damage) and even on hardest setting the rear beam is to soft |
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Posted 15th Jun 2014 at 22:41
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Rallyman
Junior User Location: Glen Auldyn Registered: 04 Aug 2013 Posts: 67 Status: Offline |
Post #8
How did you fix the beam to your chassis legs? |
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Posted 15th Jun 2014 at 22:43
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devere
Senior User Location: Saxtead Registered: 16 Dec 2008 Posts: 810 Status: Offline |
Post #9
The bit under the rad there, that is attached to the original rad support cross member. It basically boxes that in, it's fixed underneath it, welded on. As said, forms a box there and the whole thing as one piece is very solid. |
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Posted 15th Jun 2014 at 22:54
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Rallyman
Junior User Location: Glen Auldyn Registered: 04 Aug 2013 Posts: 67 Status: Offline |
Post #10
What liners do you use in the wheel arches? Do you only compete in tarmac or gravel stages also? |
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Posted 15th Jun 2014 at 22:54
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jamiek_uk2000
Seasoned Pro  Location: Llanelli Registered: 18 Apr 2009 Posts: 1,925 Status: Offline |
Post #11
Someone used unistrut? That's fine use of work materials! That gives me an idea... ________________________________________ 205 GTi Red - G939 RTU - Died!306 GTi 6 Diablo - Being resurrected! Project Thread Looking for: VTS P1 Rack PR1.2 16" |
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Posted 16th Jun 2014 at 19:30
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devere
Senior User Location: Saxtead Registered: 16 Dec 2008 Posts: 810 Status: Offline |
Post #12
I only do tarmac. I hit enough on that rather than try and git any more with trees all about!I did have liners in, that were well cut down. But I've got some good stone chip under there in the right places now, so will probably use no arch liners. After any particularly wet or muddy events in just whip the wing off and get the steam cleaner in there. |
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Posted 16th Jun 2014 at 20:27
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Rallyman
Junior User Location: Glen Auldyn Registered: 04 Aug 2013 Posts: 67 Status: Offline |
Post #13
Thanks, The Uni in Unistrut is for Universal, good for cars, scaffolding, shelves and all the stuff it was originally made for!Its the stripping of the wings I am trying to avoid! That's what I am having to do now. |
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Posted 17th Jun 2014 at 21:27
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jimmyhackers
Seasoned Pro  Location: birmingham Registered: 14 Jun 2011 Posts: 1,149 Status: Offline |
Post #14
this may sound....silly.....and i dont think anyone of this forum would expect any less from me.but would a springy sump guard be better? one that has some elastic give engineered into it before its gets to a plastic deformation state? on a side note, unistrut IS awesome. i used it in my gti seat sofa set  ________________________________________ the world is changed by people in sheds |
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Posted 23rd Jun 2014 at 18:11
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