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pugheaven

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Hi all, iv currently got gaz gold coilovers on the front with 9" 250 lbs/in springs fitted from the factory.

My problem is now that I'm running negative camber hubs the tyre hits the spring and I can't afford to space the wheels out anymore so I need to get shorter springs

Iv got 22.5mm torsion bars on the rear and after researching it looks like 225 lbs/in springs are the best match, as I'm thinking about going to a 6" spring and can't use helper or tender springs is it a good idea to get stiffer springs?
Posted 4th Jun 2014 at 10:25
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Don't run it so low Thumbs up


You'll need a much higher rate if you go for a 6" spring, and then you risk going coilbound.

225 lb will be pretty soft, you need something like 285 lb 8" springs or higher, 205 ran 225lb 9" with a 21mm bar on tarmac spec cars.

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Posted 4th Jun 2014 at 10:51
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I have a similar problem on mine, I can't run larger than a 16" wheel (Not that I wanted to) but also restricted to a 195 tyre so it doesn't hit the shock. I asked something along these lines before but never had a reply

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Posted 4th Jun 2014 at 11:33
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pugheaven

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It's a dimma it has to be low plus the wheels are 18".....

What would you suggest?
Posted 4th Jun 2014 at 11:43
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no, a dimma is a rally rep, therefore NOT low.

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Posted 4th Jun 2014 at 11:46
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Gaz golds are a pain in the arse. As welshpug says if you go to a 6" spring you'll need to up the spring rate or they'll go coil bound far to easily. The spring platforms can also be turned down a bit from memory to give a bit more clearance.
You're up against it with your wheel size and the big bodied dampers I'm afraid Ollie.

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Posted 4th Jun 2014 at 11:49
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pugheaven

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Ok not low just the same height it was before I fitted the negative camber hubs
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surely a spacer is cheaper than new springs?

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Posted 4th Jun 2014 at 11:55
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pugheaven

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I didn't mean I can't afford to buy a spacer I meant if I spaced the wheels out anymore the wheels would be sticking out the arch!

The new wheels turn up Friday so I guess I need to wait and see how much clearance I need but I think I might be able to have 7" springs and maybe 350 lbs/ft to stop it from going coil bound
Posted 4th Jun 2014 at 12:03
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Denis

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I'd go for something close to 300lb springs and length not less than 8" (with 8" spring you have ~5" out of which ~2.5" taken up by the weight of the car).

If you are going for 6" springs you'd need to go for about 500lb.

I used negative camber hubs on my car only with standard struts. Once I switched to coilovers it was possible to get adjustable cambers via top mounts, so there was no need for them.

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Posted 7th Jun 2014 at 23:00
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pugheaven

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Just trial fitted the old negative camber hub to see what clearance I will have.

The wheels are et20, I'm using a 20mm bolt on spacer and then added a 6mm spacer and this is the clearance I have


The lowest offset they make these wheels is et13 so hopefully if I get the next set made with et13, use the 20mm spacer and use 8" springs hopefully the wheel and tyre will clear the strut (fingers crossed)

It's a bit hard to tell but it appears that the wheel is still inside the arch so if it doesn't clear with the above solution I can always get some 23-25mm spacers made
Posted 8th Jun 2014 at 09:20
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