Any good tips for a decent tyre with good sidewalls

Hahaha.....are the walls stiff?

Pirelli P-Zero Neros

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T1 r's, love mine and only 43 quid each
http://www.mytyres.co.uk/cgi-bin/rshop.pl?dsco=110&Cookie=froogle&details=Ordern&typ=R-119046&ranzahl=4&nichtweiter=1&pk_campaign=froogle&wt_ref=http%3A%2F%2Fwww%2Egoogle%2Eco%2Euk%2Faclk%3Fsa%3Dl%26ai%3DCTBBAO50wU6yeKaW57gbLuYCIA8ifiesE4MeUw5IB8fvSicwBCAQQASC2VCgFUKiXm0Ngu46tg9AKoAHMg%5FfuA8gBB6kCpRZFJM43tz6qBCNP0FZEA52neKS6SfgJeIYdGBEHd3y2SC1INd%2DFcVvVmoLEKIAFkE7ABQWgBiaAB%2DimsC%2DQBwPgEsu16trrnaqHGA%26sig%3DAOD64%5F21Qu%5FhFHFrWWC%5FeAnHMJdMHunLCA%26ctype%3D5%26rct%3Dj%26q%3Dtoyo%2Bproxy%2Br%26ved%3D0CDIQww8%26adurl%3Dhttp%3A%2F%2Fwww%2Eadtraxx%2Ede%2Fwo%2FWebObjects%2Edll%2FVisitTracker%2Ewoa%2Fwa%2Ftrack%253Fid%253D16041289%2526target%253Dhttp%3A%2F%2Fmytyres%2Eco%2Euk%2Fcgi%2Dbin%2Fp%2Epl%25253FID%25253Dfroogle%252526Country%25253DUK%252526typ%25253DR%2D119046&ID=froogle&wt_t=1395694918000

T1r have s**t walls and like to roll.

Yoko a048 and toyo r888 are s**t hot but soft so won't do many miles. Ps3 are a good choice. P zero I've only driven on a large wheel with shallow walls but the grip was awesome

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OK, lets just put this into perspective.
Contrary to what the above posters are trying to point out, SOFT SIDEWALLS actually allow the rubber at the road face to work as intended, at its given temperature threshold.
I have tried many road tyres and I am very very happy with the T1rs in both the dry and the wet...
Progressive and balanced and 42 quid each

Lets get a road test comparison situation going to help and aid fellow club members into their tyre choices?
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In my rosd test I got 4k miles from t1rs on the front and 7 out the backs. The pe2's I got 30k from. I turned them from front to back when the front were 3/4 worn. So all in, they were £20 per tire more but lasted much much longer and grip on the pe2's was in a different league. So my conclusion is that the T1R's are w**k and out classed in every way by the michilins.

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Just like Armz, the T1Rs seemed great until i got a set of almost on the limit Eagle F1s. Absolutely destroyed them so went up to PS3s and now it would take some serious persuasion to change my choice of tyre.
I had 4 T1Rs from new and when new, they were very grippy but that soon started to disappear and i think they hit the 2mm marker on the front after 7k. Not overly impressed by that at all and when they were getting close to that, they were probably as good as the original P6000!
Ive only done 3k on my PS3s and they still look like brand new and they are just fantastic. Id say the wet grip is almost as good as dry grip and that really is saying something especially for what is classed as a summer tyre. Only criticism with them is i had a slight bit of extra road noise but i can't hear that now with that silly whine constantly on the go
IMO, they are no more expensive than T1Rs either. I had PS2s on my old Saab and when i sold that, they still had 6mm of tread and i had done about 15k with them. If the PS3s wear the same, i could get through 2 maybe even 3 sets of T1Rs in the life of the PS3. No brainer really for better road holding and most importantly, safety!

Just bought Dunlop DZO3Gs .....everybody in the know said the best dry tyre money can buy & ok in wet .!!!!
Toyo 888 copied there design but side walls the stiffest I've seen...been out for years ...
Only prob is you need to get them warm ...no good for short hill climb runs ....wear rates twice that of soft 888 though

Not sure on price up to Yoks....

Dunlops Only available in 225 x17s though
I had to drop to 16s for 205

They aint summer tires though are they. They are all fast road/ track tires. The best summer road tires will be something like the ps3's or p zero or similar.

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Like armsz16, I used to like the T1-S and I never felt the "improved" T1-R that succeeded it was as good. I agree that the T1-R actually seemed OK until you try something decent. For a cheap track tyre in 50-profile the Toyos make a lot of sense. But for road use there are plenty of better options. I wanted a decent road tyre and did a lot of research as I wanted something decent. But I wanted to stay with the OE 55-profile after Michelin PE2s became NLA, so I ended up with the Dunlops which I find are way better than the Toyos, and maybe £10 - £20 more per tyre in the (more expen$$ive) 195/55-15 size. Money well spent.

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As above I've got the Dunlop SP Sport Fast Response on the Rallye and they perform well, they do make the steering a little heavier as they are quite sticky - I also found this putting them on the wife's Focus. Someone else on here has tried out the BluResponse which has had excellent reviews but were not yet available when I got mine last year.

They must be OK as Dunlops were OE fitment on all marks of the Supermarine Spitfire - the WW2 fighter that defended Britain against the dastardly Hun, not the 1970s Triumph sports car, (while strictly not relevant to your question, I think it's way cool anyway).

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I've fitted many sets of blueresponse the ratings are awesome. Think their A rated wet C rated fuel economy and 67db or something like that.

My only criticisms are they are sticky as you say but I think they have done that to get the wet grip up and made the tyre soft so I don't think they will last long.

Sidewalls are pretty sloppy

Also they are pretty much Eco tyres and as with all Eco tyres they taper off the tread on the outside edges to reduce rolling resistance so you get much less usable surface area and the edges of the tyres wear out in 5 minutes.


PS3's in 55 you say? Will have a look later see what sort of price they are.

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