Got me bit worried as I've just put a a new head on
Did a quick compression test with throttle closed and they were all on the 50 psi mark
I'm sure that's not good
Car runs good no lose in power just smokes when warm
Shall I be worried
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Author | Subject: Compression test result not good |
![]() Regular ![]() Location: Leeds Registered: 16 Nov 2013 Posts: 101 Status: Offline |
Post #1
I recently changed me exhaust and decat on my gti 6 but noticed it starts smoking when warm Got me bit worried as I've just put a a new head on Did a quick compression test with throttle closed and they were all on the 50 psi mark I'm sure that's not good Car runs good no lose in power just smokes when warm Shall I be worried |
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![]() Seasoned Pro ![]() Location: Durham Registered: 20 Oct 2008 Posts: 8,716 Status: Offline |
Post #2
Mine does similar but smokes a little when cold and when i give it some but then i am getting quite abit oil into my inlet through the breather. Time for an oil catch than i think. Take you filter off and see if there is much oil there________________________________________ Clicky: [url =http://www.306gti6.com]click here[/url] remove the space between [url & = |
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![]() Regular ![]() Location: Leeds Registered: 16 Nov 2013 Posts: 101 Status: Offline |
Post #3
I did find some oil in and around inlet and Thorttle few week ago when I took inlet off too change starter I'll put catch tank on see if it clears |
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![]() ![]() Location: Kent Registered: 18 Jan 2004 Posts: 21,769 Status: Offline |
Post #4
A healthy engine should be somewhere around 190-200psi. ![]() Also, a compression test should be done with the throttle fully open to allow maximum air to intake. ________________________________________ "Supercharged - 454.1bhp/317.5lb/ft"Peugeot 306 GTi-6 2000 (X), Moonstone ![]() |
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![]() Regular ![]() Location: Leeds Registered: 16 Nov 2013 Posts: 101 Status: Offline |
Post #5
I'll give it another go with throttle open see if compression jumps up |
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![]() Seasoned Pro ![]() Location: Kent Registered: 15 Feb 2009 Posts: 1,297 Status: Offline |
Post #6
:-) let us no what it says throttle openYou saying it smokes on tick over when warm? |
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![]() Seasoned Pro ![]() Location: The Nam Registered: 24 Jan 2006 Posts: 12,828 Status: Offline |
Post #7
Probably worn bores /rings / pistons. Common on these engines.Leak down test would be better. ________________________________________ Nothing to see here |
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![]() ![]() Location: Kent Registered: 18 Jan 2004 Posts: 21,769 Status: Offline |
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adam b wrote: Probably worn bores /rings / pistons. Common on these engines. Leak down test would be better. Are they? I didn't think worn bores were particularly common... ________________________________________ "Supercharged - 454.1bhp/317.5lb/ft"Peugeot 306 GTi-6 2000 (X), Moonstone ![]() |
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![]() Seasoned Pro ![]() Location: Kent Registered: 15 Feb 2009 Posts: 1,297 Status: Offline |
Post #9
Mines about 15 years old, only puff of smoke is on very hard boot |
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![]() ![]() Location: Kent Registered: 18 Jan 2004 Posts: 21,769 Status: Offline |
Post #10
Yes, that was my feeling too.As long as they are looked after via regular oil changes and correct warming up from cold etc, they seem to go on forever. ![]() ________________________________________ "Supercharged - 454.1bhp/317.5lb/ft"Peugeot 306 GTi-6 2000 (X), Moonstone ![]() |
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![]() Seasoned Pro ![]() Location: hiding all receipts for car Registered: 09 Jul 2008 Posts: 11,901 Status: Offline |
Post #11
I thought they should be more like 200-220________________________________________ andrew315rawson@live.co.ukMoonstone phase 7 gti6 My Project thread: http://www.306gti6.com/forum/showthread.php?id=119992&page=1 |
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![]() Seasoned Pro ![]() Location: hiding all receipts for car Registered: 09 Jul 2008 Posts: 11,901 Status: Offline |
Post #12
stan_306gti6 wrote: Yes, that was my feeling too. As long as they are always in a carpeted heated garage, they seem to go on forever. ![]() ________________________________________ andrew315rawson@live.co.ukMoonstone phase 7 gti6 My Project thread: http://www.306gti6.com/forum/showthread.php?id=119992&page=1 |
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![]() Senior User ![]() Location: London Registered: 18 May 2009 Posts: 799 Status: Offline |
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Liking the edits recently buzz ![]() |
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![]() Regular ![]() Location: Leeds Registered: 16 Nov 2013 Posts: 101 Status: Offline |
Post #14
Ye only smokes once it's warm Dosent seem too smoke on tick over only when ya give it some Or when ya cruise in a high gear |
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![]() Seasoned Pro ![]() Location: Kent Registered: 15 Feb 2009 Posts: 1,297 Status: Offline |
Post #15
Piston rings, valve stem seals? |
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![]() ![]() Location: Leeds Registered: 14 Dec 2003 Posts: 3,702 Status: Offline |
Post #16
What colour smoke Marc??________________________________________ Team Running Engine again!Team Negative Camber! My Budget track engine build thread! Now appearing at a Trackday near you!! ![]() ![]() |
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![]() Turbo Legend! ![]() Location: edinburgh Registered: 07 Mar 2010 Posts: 2,163 Status: Offline |
Post #17
My engine is coming up for 190k, although it still makes power, one of my cylinders is a fair bit down, after a good hard run my dipstick pops out, when i previously had a catch tank there was ALOT of vapour coming out of the vent and the tank would collect nearly half a litre of oil after say an hours worth of hard driving, i now have my breathers plumbed back in as normal as the the cabin would be smelling of oil when the engine was hot. If your compression is down it could well be that you have excessive bore wear/worn rings which in turn will pressurise the crankcase/sump therefore blow through into your throttle body. I would do another compression test but this time with throttle wide open and then do a leak down test. The leakdown will give you some obvious clues as to why you are down on compression. Out of curiousity did you replace the head because it had been badly over heated, if so, excessive heat can cause the piston rings to lose their tension and hence not seal properly and cause the above |
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![]() Regular ![]() Location: Leeds Registered: 16 Nov 2013 Posts: 101 Status: Offline |
Post #18
The smoke is blue I replaced the head because it was smoking blue I seen the valves from the head which has excessive wear on them from the guides my engineer suggested another gti6 Head which had good guides in replaced the valves and stem seals skimmed pressure tested I checked bores when head was off didn't show Any signs off excessive wear |
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![]() Turbo Legend! ![]() Location: edinburgh Registered: 07 Mar 2010 Posts: 2,163 Status: Offline |
Post #19
Although you might not have felt a wear ridge at the top of the bore they could be out of round further down on the thrust face. Try pulling the breather from the cam cover to see if theres excess vapour, seriously though, leakdown test is the way to go. |
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![]() Regular ![]() Location: Leeds Registered: 16 Nov 2013 Posts: 101 Status: Offline |
Post #20
Not done a leak down test before is it just a little oil in bore and do pressure test as normal with throttle open I do have a spare block with 92000miles is there any way ov checking rings incase I do swap blocks over Some1 timed it up wrong and bent all the inlet valves Unless some has a known good bottom end |
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