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superchargedblack1997gti6
Seasoned Pro Location: guildford Registered: 15 Aug 2009 Posts: 2,376 Status: Offline |
Post #1
Hi just wondered if these will fit as team dynamics released them this year would help with possible traction issues. Anyone used any wider wheels/rubber in 15 inch size.________________________________________ Super high boost Completed, destroyer of gearboxes and 160mph club |
Posted 14th Nov 2013 at 13:05
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allanallen
Seasoned Pro Location: Buxton Registered: 01 May 2007 Posts: 1,399 Status: Offline |
Post #2
Think they'll go on in et0, wider 1b tyres are £££ though ________________________________________ www.bridgecraftmotorsport.co.uk |
Posted 14th Nov 2013 at 13:43
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robthe6
Senior User Location: northamptonshire Registered: 06 Jun 2008 Posts: 667 Status: Offline |
Post #3
I had to modify the inner arch on 16x7.5j just to stop it scrubbing the arch liner. So Aslong as you didn't move the wheel in any more you should be fine.________________________________________ 1997 ph1 bianca GTI6 - The looker1996 ph1 Sigma GTI6 - Dead 1999 Red Rallye - The Daily 2005 Nissan Navara D40 - Family car 1968 Mustang Coupe - The dirty little secret Put ya foot down, put ya foot down we'll loose em easy! |
Posted 14th Nov 2013 at 13:55
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superchargedblack1997gti6
Seasoned Pro Location: guildford Registered: 15 Aug 2009 Posts: 2,376 Status: Offline |
Post #4
Ok thanks so they will fit without me having to extend arches? any ideas the biggest tyres I can getaway with r888 or A048s? thanks________________________________________ Super high boost Completed, destroyer of gearboxes and 160mph club |
Posted 14th Nov 2013 at 14:05
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allanallen
Seasoned Pro Location: Buxton Registered: 01 May 2007 Posts: 1,399 Status: Offline |
Post #5
225/45/15s by the looks of toyos specs. ________________________________________ www.bridgecraftmotorsport.co.uk |
Posted 14th Nov 2013 at 14:24
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superchargedblack1997gti6
Seasoned Pro Location: guildford Registered: 15 Aug 2009 Posts: 2,376 Status: Offline |
Post #6
Thankyou very much Allan i presume they'll work with you're machined hubs?________________________________________ Super high boost Completed, destroyer of gearboxes and 160mph club |
Posted 14th Nov 2013 at 14:27
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allanallen
Seasoned Pro Location: Buxton Registered: 01 May 2007 Posts: 1,399 Status: Offline |
Post #7
It's up to you to check your tyre to hub clearance to be honest and it depends how much camber you want to run. Anythings possible though ________________________________________ www.bridgecraftmotorsport.co.uk |
Posted 14th Nov 2013 at 15:56
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superchargedblack1997gti6
Seasoned Pro Location: guildford Registered: 15 Aug 2009 Posts: 2,376 Status: Offline |
Post #8
Track car only with very occasional fast road I'll be giving you a shout very soon ill order the wheels first so I know how much clearance we have available. Thanks again Allan________________________________________ Super high boost Completed, destroyer of gearboxes and 160mph club |
Posted 14th Nov 2013 at 16:06
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pete_rallye
Seasoned Pro Location: Yorkshire Registered: 12 Dec 2002 Posts: 5,253 Status: Offline |
Post #9
I tried this many years ago and found the main issue I had was the inside of the wheel hitting the inside of the arches whilst cornering, reduced steering lock loads. You could spacer the wheel out miles but you'll definately have wheel arch scrubbing without rolling the arches, or running 4x4 ride height. Was ok at the back though!________________________________________ Oulton Park in a BTCC 306 vid 1Oulton Park in a BTCC 306 vid 2 Lap of the 'ring |
Posted 14th Nov 2013 at 20:27
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superchargedblack1997gti6
Seasoned Pro Location: guildford Registered: 15 Aug 2009 Posts: 2,376 Status: Offline |
Post #10
you think its worth doing though Pete ? I'm not worried about getting the arches rolled!________________________________________ Super high boost Completed, destroyer of gearboxes and 160mph club |
Posted 14th Nov 2013 at 21:02
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pete_rallye
Seasoned Pro Location: Yorkshire Registered: 12 Dec 2002 Posts: 5,253 Status: Offline |
Post #11
Not really tbh, I mean the extra grip would be nice but the trade off been you wouldn't be able to run as much camber and you're kingpin angle would be greater, along with a higher unsprung weight so although under acceleration and braking you'd probably be better off, you'd probably find the car wouldn't corner as well. This is all theory mind, you may find its ace! Only one way to find out! ________________________________________ Oulton Park in a BTCC 306 vid 1Oulton Park in a BTCC 306 vid 2 Lap of the 'ring |
Posted 14th Nov 2013 at 21:10
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BigTallPaul
Junior User Location: Leicester Registered: 02 Jun 2013 Posts: 90 Status: Offline |
Post #12
For track or fast road use I wouldn't recommend an 8" wide rim. Trouble with clearance is one thing, cost is another and weight is yet another. Plus the extra rolling resistance.You can run 225/45 × 15 on 7" rims and save a whole lotta hassle. Imho. Paul |
Posted 15th Nov 2013 at 00:00
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superchargedblack1997gti6
Seasoned Pro Location: guildford Registered: 15 Aug 2009 Posts: 2,376 Status: Offline |
Post #13
my query is all about grip. As the cars going to run 500ish bhp I'm going to need all the grip I can get. price I can get these wheels for the same price as the 7 inch widecheers ________________________________________ Super high boost Completed, destroyer of gearboxes and 160mph club |
Posted 15th Nov 2013 at 07:41
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dangti6
aka JKshooter Location: Taunton, Somerset Registered: 15 Jun 2006 Posts: 10,305 Status: Offline |
Post #14
Modify the inner arches.________________________________________ |
Posted 15th Nov 2013 at 13:14
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pugheaven
Seasoned Pro Location: Fareham Registered: 17 Dec 2006 Posts: 4,602 Status: Offline |
Post #15
Just dimma it and be done with it lol |
Posted 15th Nov 2013 at 16:58
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superchargedblack1997gti6
Seasoned Pro Location: guildford Registered: 15 Aug 2009 Posts: 2,376 Status: Offline |
Post #16
If I Dimma it, it goes 4x4 end of! which is why I'm steering clear of it if I can.________________________________________ Super high boost Completed, destroyer of gearboxes and 160mph club |
Posted 15th Nov 2013 at 17:16
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pete_rallye
Seasoned Pro Location: Yorkshire Registered: 12 Dec 2002 Posts: 5,253 Status: Offline |
Post #17
If its straight line speed you're after then 8 inch wide will be fine but there's a lot of other considerations if you want it to be quick around a circuit. In theory you will have a bigger contact patch, so better grip under acceleration and braking, but it may not ride so well, could be worse on its tyres depending on if you can get the camber you need, the additional scrub radius will increase torque steer and could reduce stability under braking. I'd maybe see if you can pick some cheap ones up first, stick em on the front and see what happens.________________________________________ Oulton Park in a BTCC 306 vid 1Oulton Park in a BTCC 306 vid 2 Lap of the 'ring |
Posted 15th Nov 2013 at 19:14
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superchargedblack1997gti6
Seasoned Pro Location: guildford Registered: 15 Aug 2009 Posts: 2,376 Status: Offline |
Post #18
it's for my track car Pete so cornering is a priority but with big bhp so is traction. I think ill just order a set and see how I get on maybe I can modify the metal inner arch to accommodate the bigger rubber I have the engine out at the moment. trouble is ill have to do it as a test bed surprised you didn't do it a long time ago Pete you've tried most things with the cars and created some very fast cars as a result.________________________________________ Super high boost Completed, destroyer of gearboxes and 160mph club |
Posted 16th Nov 2013 at 09:03
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rallyeash
Seasoned Pro Location: Devizes Registered: 11 Dec 2006 Posts: 4,424 Status: Offline |
Post #19
Colin Satchell runs 15x9' front rims on his 205 hill climber. I'd say there would be an advantage for sure. ________________________________________ 230 hp 2.1 16v XU 205 rallye on jenveys Project thread here309 3dr K20 Type R |
Posted 16th Nov 2013 at 09:26
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pete_rallye
Seasoned Pro Location: Yorkshire Registered: 12 Dec 2002 Posts: 5,253 Status: Offline |
Post #20
Never seen Colins car other than in pictures but I'm reckoning its a safe bet that hes fitted 9 inch rims along with getting the geometry of the car spot on as well. Indeed the wider the rubber the better, just depends how much other work is involved to make it work effectively. Colins obviously pretty handy when it comes to fabricating stuff to get everything working right. ________________________________________ Oulton Park in a BTCC 306 vid 1Oulton Park in a BTCC 306 vid 2 Lap of the 'ring |
Posted 16th Nov 2013 at 16:58
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rallyeash
Seasoned Pro Location: Devizes Registered: 11 Dec 2006 Posts: 4,424 Status: Offline |
Post #21
Im sure they were in mind when building his suspension. There RWD escort rims ________________________________________ 230 hp 2.1 16v XU 205 rallye on jenveys Project thread here309 3dr K20 Type R |
Posted 16th Nov 2013 at 17:05
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rallyeash
Seasoned Pro Location: Devizes Registered: 11 Dec 2006 Posts: 4,424 Status: Offline |
Post #22
What did you do in the end here?________________________________________ 230 hp 2.1 16v XU 205 rallye on jenveys Project thread here309 3dr K20 Type R |
Posted 8th Jan 2014 at 17:26
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superchargedblack1997gti6
Seasoned Pro Location: guildford Registered: 15 Aug 2009 Posts: 2,376 Status: Offline |
Post #23
Waiting Ash as I'm waiting to see if u can find someone to help me with the suspension geometry and changing it to get it right. Look forward to seeing youres with the wider rims.________________________________________ Super high boost Completed, destroyer of gearboxes and 160mph club |
Posted 8th Jan 2014 at 19:57
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rallyeash
Seasoned Pro Location: Devizes Registered: 11 Dec 2006 Posts: 4,424 Status: Offline |
Post #24
Fair enough. I'm not sure weather it's worth ordering a pair of 8' for the fronts. Don't really know if it's worth doing but at the same time I don't want to be trial and error. ________________________________________ 230 hp 2.1 16v XU 205 rallye on jenveys Project thread here309 3dr K20 Type R |
Posted 8th Jan 2014 at 20:42
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superchargedblack1997gti6
Seasoned Pro Location: guildford Registered: 15 Aug 2009 Posts: 2,376 Status: Offline |
Post #25
Sorry mate that meant I'm looking for someone to help adjust the Geometry for the car I think it's worth doing for the traction but by the feedback I'm getting it's going to take a lot of work to set it up right. Think I'll probably get it running right on my normal wheels then get it sorted once if enjoyed it for a bit. Iron out the bugs ________________________________________ Super high boost Completed, destroyer of gearboxes and 160mph club |
Posted 8th Jan 2014 at 21:14
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