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steve h gti-6

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Hi guys n Girls

I currently run a 310mm two piece disc with Tarox B32 6 Pots.

Now my question is Can I use 607 3.0 V6 24V (00-02) Discs that are the same PCD 4x108and Bore 65.1 which are 309mm, thickness 32mm ? Dunno

I ask this as new rotors etc are very expensive and these seem very competitively priced.

Or can I get the Brembo 330mm ones, and would I be able to safely more than anything get them machined down to 310mm ? Dunno

Sorry for all the questions

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Posted 12th Oct 2013 at 21:29

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Depends on the offset of the disk Wink

Are your current bells flat,or domed? Dunno

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Posted 12th Oct 2013 at 21:34

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I'd stick with the 310 rotors dude !

Cheap 1 piece discs will be exactly that CHEAP !

No you can't machine down 330 rotors not sure why you would want to do that ?

Posted 12th Oct 2013 at 21:38

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Awwww good point on the offset of the disc, I didn't think of that.

Yes the bells are slightly domed

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Posted 12th Oct 2013 at 21:39

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coskev wrote:

Depends on the offset of the disk Wink

Are your current bells flat,or domed? Dunno

Ah yes the offset will prob be different as well

Posted 12th Oct 2013 at 21:39

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steve h gti-6

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I'd stick with the 310 rotors dude !

Cheap 1 piece discs will be exactly that CHEAP !

No you can't machine down 330 rotors not sure why you would want to do that ?

Just seen you can get Brembo 330mm rotors as thought they wouldn't be cheap/nasty but not as expensive as replacement Tarox jobs at over £450 for the pair but that did include new bolts and P&P.

I only say about turning them down as have a friend in a machine shop who has the capability to do so.

I take it its not safe as it my damage the integrity of the disc and/or the vanes? Dunno

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Posted 12th Oct 2013 at 21:46

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What prices have you been quoted for rotors?

What PCD are the mounting holes,and how many mounting bolts? Thumbs up

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Posted 12th Oct 2013 at 21:49

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Think I may have to bite the bullet and get somebody like Hi Spec to see what they can do for me. They seem to be competitively priced at around £100 per rotor.

I think id have to send them my current disc/bell so they can physically see them and see if they have off the shelf rotors to fit my bells and go from there, which I think is the best course of action, unless anyone has a better solution?

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Posted 12th Oct 2013 at 21:50

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Just count your mounting holes,and the PCD of them Thumbs up

Then have a look on there site at the rotors that match the above info and how thick your rotors are Thumbs up

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Posted 12th Oct 2013 at 21:57

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No you can't machine down 330 rotors not sure why you would want to do that ?

Yes you can

If the offsets correct and you have enough area left for the pad it will be a nice cheap option. Brembo disc are normally pretty decent quality too.

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Posted 12th Oct 2013 at 21:59

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steve h gti-6 wrote:

bigbadbowen wrote:

I'd stick with the 310 rotors dude !

Cheap 1 piece discs will be exactly that CHEAP !

No you can't machine down 330 rotors not sure why you would want to do that ?

Try compbrake ? 450 seems a bit steep but new bolts is a must Yes

Posted 12th Oct 2013 at 22:00

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But don't 310 rotors use smaller diameter bells than 330??

Posted 12th Oct 2013 at 22:02

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allanallen wrote:

bigbadbowen wrote:

No you can't machine down 330 rotors not sure why you would want to do that ?

Yes you can

If the offsets correct and you have enough area left for the pad it will be a nice cheap option. Brembo disc are normally pretty decent quality too.

Sounds like a whole lot of extra effort to me ? And what if one brakes ?

Posted 12th Oct 2013 at 22:10

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Just had a look at Hi Spec and they seem to be on the ball starting with plain rotors at £69 going up to £99 for grooved + VAT

Just got to work out now if my PCD of the bells is either 180 or 190 and what I pad sweep area is either 52 or53mm but does that make much difference? , but I do know I have 10 fixing bolts and need 2 X M12x1.25 per calliper.

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Posted 12th Oct 2013 at 22:22

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steve h gti-6 wrote:

Do what ? 2 x m12x1.25 per calliper will be calliper mounting bolts ? Dunno

Posted 12th Oct 2013 at 22:25

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Or do you mean you have 10 mounting holes and need 12 ? Which is prob why tarrox do that so you have to buy their stuff

Posted 12th Oct 2013 at 22:28

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Do what ? 2 x m12x1.25 per calliper will be calliper mounting bolts ? Dunno

They are for the Calliper to mounting bracket bolts

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Posted 12th Oct 2013 at 22:32

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10 x bolts to fix the rotors to the bell and 2 x M12 bolts to remount the calliper per side.

Sorry I don't think I was to clear there.

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Posted 12th Oct 2013 at 22:33

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you can re-use the mounting bolts dude

Posted 12th Oct 2013 at 22:42

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steve h gti-6

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you can re-use the mounting bolts dude

Didn't know that, I thought it was just a matter of course to replace them regardless. But I do fully understand the two per side calliper mounting M12 bolts will need replacing as taking the calliper off to properly clean

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Posted 12th Oct 2013 at 22:50

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I was referring to those 2 bolts.... thread lock and your be fine, I would replace the nuts and bolts for the rotors/discs

Posted 12th Oct 2013 at 22:59

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steve h gti-6

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awwww right got ya but for the minimal cost of all the bolts ill just replace anyways while its all apart.

cheers guys

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Posted 12th Oct 2013 at 23:03

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that is a valid point Thumbs up

Posted 12th Oct 2013 at 23:04

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bigbadbowen wrote:

allanallen wrote:

bigbadbowen wrote:

No you can't machine down 330 rotors not sure why you would want to do that ?

Yes you can

If the offsets correct and you have enough area left for the pad it will be a nice cheap option. Brembo disc are normally pretty decent quality too.

Sounds like a whole lot of extra effort to me ? And what if one brakes ?

As the op says he knows a turner and it'd take him literally 5minutes to turn down a pair of discs, potentially saving himself a heap of money?
I take it you mean breaks? Why would one break? A standard disc/rotor is already a turned down casting.

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Posted 12th Oct 2013 at 23:27

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allanallen wrote:

bigbadbowen wrote:

allanallen wrote:

bigbadbowen wrote:

No you can't machine down 330 rotors not sure why you would want to do that ?

Yes you can

If the offsets correct and you have enough area left for the pad it will be a nice cheap option. Brembo disc are normally pretty decent quality too.

Sounds like a whole lot of extra effort to me ? And what if one brakes ?

So if the brake disc fails and there is a big accident and people die who do you think will get the blame ?

Posted 13th Oct 2013 at 01:00

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