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eddy_gti6

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I have a post up on 205gtidrivers.com but I know a lot of people have 205s on here too so maybe someone might have something lying around for me.

looking for either some Bilstein shocks all round with about 40mm springs
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A good set of coilovers what I can run adjustable top mounts with

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Posted 10th Oct 2013 at 21:33
allanallen

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306 dampers will fit, have you seen blandy's for sale thread.....

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Posted 10th Oct 2013 at 21:44
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Yeah seen it but dont they run different top mounts? Just been reading up 9n 205 drivers that alot of people upgrade to gti6 shocks but then the drop links foul the hubs.

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Posted 10th Oct 2013 at 21:49
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Maybe these, could get them a bit cheaper and go pick them up

http://pages.ebay.com/link/?nav=item.view&id=190864340793


Or if you don't mind stretching the budget...

http://pages.ebay.com/link/?nav=item.view&id=200952350123

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Posted 10th Oct 2013 at 23:43
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1st ones look abit crappy to be hinest. Gaz would br good but expensive. Been seeing about a set of KWs so will see what happens with them

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Posted 11th Oct 2013 at 01:08
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I have the 6/'VTS' shocks fitted and feel so much better, yes they won't be quite as good as using B8's but for costs they are perfect. I used some Ph 1 VTS springs and shocks and its lowered the front by about 25mm and was a very cheap mod to do. The 205 top mounts fit the VTS/6 shocks fine and while they are off you might as well get some SKF top mount bearings, the quality ones.

One upgrade i have fitted on mine is a 309 gti front ARB with the VTS/6 rear 24mm ARB cut down and re-splined the 205 size and both match each other perfectly. Although most just use the rear ARB alone, just depends on how you like it and how you drive etc.

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Posted 11th Oct 2013 at 14:25
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I have been looking for a 309 feont arb but cant seem to find one any where unless you know somewhere? No rush to do the rear as of yet, thats last on the list of things to do but you could always help me out as to where I get get a arb cut and re splined tho Thumbs up

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Posted 11th Oct 2013 at 18:31
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Try nick gti6boy the arb I had went to him but I think he already had one ?

Posted 11th Oct 2013 at 19:06
beez_neez_gt

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A place in oadby does them mate.

http://www.torsionperformance.com/

Places like pug 1 off, shenpar etc use him for bars etc.

Try escortbuffy off ebay he has a few 309 gti's breaking. Bushes need to be in good nick though, I soaked mine in silicone grease for a few month before project warranted them to be fitted.

It will understeer loads without 24mm at the back but perfect when together.

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Posted 11th Oct 2013 at 20:00
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I'd personally go with just a bigger rear arb at first and see what you think. 309 front arb bushes aren't available anymore and aftermarket ones don't fit so bare this in mind if you do try and source one. I wouldn't bother personally but arbs are very much down to personal preference Wink

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Posted 11th Oct 2013 at 20:32
eddy_gti6

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Thanks lads. Bushes I will be buying new poly ones as I am replacing everything on the car anyway. No big deal if I cant find one for the front straight away, can always change it at a later date. I will have a look around when I get on the computer tho.
I will be running 309 wishbones with poly race wishbone bushes with hopefully rosejoint ball joint, BakerBM group N engine mounts and group A fork bush and when I find a decent set of coilovers with adjustable top mounts.

The car is mainley going to be for track with very little road use. Only a nice day car as I wont be running any heaters and poly carb windows all round so not ideal for a cold day LOL

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Posted 11th Oct 2013 at 20:44
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Don't put a bigger arb on the front. Will ruin it in my opinion
Go 24mm on the rear though

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Posted 11th Oct 2013 at 20:52
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I have a front 309 gti arb with bushes and caps.

Make me an offer

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Posted 11th Oct 2013 at 20:58
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If you cought me a couple days ago jord I would have had it but reading mixed opinions on here ans 205 drivers I will make do with the standard one for now Thumbs up

Ash I have just replied to your PM before I read your post.

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Posted 11th Oct 2013 at 21:24
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I'd go with Standard wishbone bushes over poly ones any day.

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Posted 11th Oct 2013 at 21:30
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Too late already bought them LOL

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Posted 11th Oct 2013 at 21:32
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Do yourself a favour and bin them then Razz seriously

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Posted 11th Oct 2013 at 21:41
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allanallen wrote:
Do yourself a favour and bin them then Razz seriously


I agree Yes

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Posted 11th Oct 2013 at 21:56
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Why whats so bad about poly wishbone mounts?

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Posted 11th Oct 2013 at 22:13
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They don't last and flex more than OE ones, Most rally car's use OE bush's which should say it all.
Also ARB bush's use only OE, aftermarket ones don;t fit

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Posted 11th Oct 2013 at 22:32
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Quality is poor compared to genuine pug items.

You can't really beat the gen pug bushes tbh

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Posted 11th Oct 2013 at 22:33
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I will fit them and see how things go since I have them now. No harm replacing them if need be tho. Car wont be used much anyeay.

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Posted 12th Oct 2013 at 02:29
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Sounds like a big waste of time that could be spent on actually improving the car Yes

As for the 309 front ARB, yes some like some don't, since I have a heavier engine fitted it does make a difference to how it handles compared to the skinny 205 oe one. Thing you have to remember is a lot of the bushes are old and worn which will make a difference to how it performs, which maybe why some just don't like them due to poor fitment etc. I have spotted some black 309 gti arb bushes here, not tried them though.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/380663918541?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1438.l2649

As said many times, Pug wishbone bushes are the best you can get and are more then enough for any motor sport you may wish to partake in.

Powerflex are just that, powerfully flexible lol.

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Posted 12th Oct 2013 at 07:39
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beez_neez_gt wrote:
Sounds like a big waste of time that could be spent on actually improving the car Yes

As for the 309 front ARB, yes some like some don't, since I have a heavier engine fitted it does make a difference to how it handles compared to the skinny 205 oe one. Thing you have to remember is a lot of the bushes are old and worn which will make a difference to how it performs, which maybe why some just don't like them due to poor fitment etc. I have spotted some black 309 gti arb bushes here, not tried them though.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/380663918541?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1438.l2649

As said many times, Pug wishbone bushes are the best you can get and are more then enough for any motor sport you may wish to partake in.

Powerflex are just that, powerfully flexible lol.




LOL they even list those arb bushes as being too big! 309 front arbs are 21mm, the listing is for 22mm bushes! Brilliant

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Posted 12th Oct 2013 at 07:50
eddy_gti6

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I have 2 sets of 309 wishbones here and 1 set of 205 wishbones so it will be easy enough to swap if they need to be. Trail and error, learn from your mistakes. Anyway back on track hopefully i will have a set of KW v2 coilovers with KAD adjustable top mounts. Just need to wait for a reply off the lad selling them. Or if that falls through hopefully i can rely on seb (T99 PUG) to make his mind up on what he wants to do and sell me his LOL

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