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 aaron6
Seasoned Pro  Location: On the sofa in maidstone Registered: 16 May 2006 Posts: 5,840 Status: Offline |
Post #76
Im a tight arse though. I wouldn't buy a car for more than 3k. They lose cash too quick. Plus, I reckon an old hatch can be perfectly reliable if maintained. Plus, if a 6 goes wrong, biggest bill is a different engine. Some repairs on newer cars can cost tons more than a entire mint 6.  False economy I reckon... ________________________________________ See the sheer power and might of the lesser known burrowing owl. |
 Posted 11th Oct 2013 at 21:37
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aaron6
Seasoned Pro Location: On the sofa in maidstone Registered: 16 May 2006 Posts: 5,840 Status: Offline |
Post #77
pete26 wrote: And to me, thats all that matters... aaron6 wrote: Trouble with new cars is the initial outlay. It would take forever to pay for itself in the on road savings scheme of things and tbh, all new cars are bland. In your opinion ________________________________________ See the sheer power and might of the lesser known burrowing owl. |
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Posted 11th Oct 2013 at 21:38
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coskev
Seasoned Pro  Location: Oswestry Registered: 01 Nov 2009 Posts: 3,132 Status: Offline |
Post #78
ryangti6 wrote: coskev wrote: At some of the comments on here!  It's coming upto 15 years old ffs None of those problems with the exception of the driveshaft have anything at all to do with the age of the car, it sounds more like people not doing things properly/cutting corners  That's rich coming from Pugplus's right hand man!!!!! Ok not due to age,but the amount of owners its had due to how old the car is  ________________________________________ Red GTB1756 powered Fabia VRS daily driver,LBSC Gti6 eater........Mac1 ZR R1 kit car build in progress. |
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Posted 11th Oct 2013 at 21:46
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stan_306gti6
Forum Admin Location: Kent Registered: 18 Jan 2004 Posts: 21,768 Status: Offline |
Post #79
Aaron's right - I wouldn't spend out on a 'new' car either.Having said that though, if I was in his position of needing a daily drive for work etc, it would be a cheap derv. That way, you get to keep the '6' for weekend fun. ________________________________________ "Supercharged - 454.1bhp/317.5lb/ft"Peugeot 306 GTi-6 2000 (X), Moonstone  |
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Posted 11th Oct 2013 at 22:23
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gwyn rallye
Regular  Location: Anglesey Registered: 05 Jul 2007 Posts: 443 Status: Offline |
Post #80
Well, Tom didn't keep this long!? Glad she's gone to another club member though. Pretty shocked about the Airbag system as well, can assure you it wasn't me! All I did was source/ fit the standard steering wheel instead of the suede one on it.As for the Pirelli ditchfinders... were always on my to do list but never got round to it. They are god awful though. Also, controversially maybe, I wasnt a fan of the ph1 Xsara rack. It was great in town/ parking but found it too quick on a spirited drive. I thought it was twitchy and lost the delicacy of inputs of the standard rack. Aaron, Im very much with you on the above.... bought a Golf GTTDI 150 a few years back... what a disaster! Ended up needing a new cam, new head casting, new clutch/ dual mass flywheel, new rear beam mounts, aircon pump... the list goes on. Cost me thousands to put right. Thats why Im on my 4th 6/Rallye as I know I can do most simple tasks myself... and as you say worst case is engine, and they are dirt cheap at present. ________________________________________ Bianca white 306 RallyeArctic blue Clio 182 FF Alpine white 205 1.9 GTI |
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Posted 11th Oct 2013 at 23:19
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mechanical_repairs
Seasoned Pro  Location: leicester Registered: 10 Jan 2005 Posts: 12,122 Status: Offline |
Post #81
I can also say that bar the wheels and front brakes the car was sold exactly as it was when it came to me, it may be a case that it had a race style steering wheel fitted and this had no air bag so the system was ditched so to speak.Hardly the biggest disaster out there so to speak, wires cable tied out the way, seems it was done on purpose?  Also if I remember right the bulb was removed too, think we know what's happened here, it was removed Carl ________________________________________ C.G.Cars of Leicester, Peugeot/Citroen/Renault specialist Tel: 01162 624498/07799 405184 WWW.CGCARSLEICESTER.CO.UK36 narborough road south, Leicester LE3 2fn MOT station now open, tests £35 with a free retest. Recovery available with a recovery unit, for those not so local jobs Also offer the loan of a free courtesy car 306 dturbo |
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Posted 11th Oct 2013 at 23:32
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aaron6
Seasoned Pro Location: On the sofa in maidstone Registered: 16 May 2006 Posts: 5,840 Status: Offline |
Post #82
stan_306gti6 wrote: not at all, its only a 306 not an ariel Atom. Aaron's right - I wouldn't spend out on a 'new' car either. Having said that though, if I was in his position of needing a daily drive for work etc, it would be a cheap derv. That way, you get to keep the '6' for weekend fun. Daily drive FTW! Been using mine for over 3 years and my blaze for 4 years. But then im strange and love driving it everyday. ________________________________________ See the sheer power and might of the lesser known burrowing owl. |
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Posted 11th Oct 2013 at 23:35
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aaron6
Seasoned Pro Location: On the sofa in maidstone Registered: 16 May 2006 Posts: 5,840 Status: Offline |
Post #83
gwyn rallye wrote: Aaron, Im very much with you on the above.... bought a Golf GTTDI 150 a few years back... what a disaster! Ended up needing a new cam, new head casting, new clutch/ dual mass flywheel, new rear beam mounts, aircon pump... the list goes on. Cost me thousands to put right. Thats why Im on my 4th 6/Rallye as I know I can do most simple tasks myself... and as you say worst case is engine, and they are dirt cheap at present. ^^^^ This What a mare. And only reinforced my thoughts. ________________________________________ See the sheer power and might of the lesser known burrowing owl. |
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Posted 11th Oct 2013 at 23:38
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stan_306gti6
Forum Admin Location: Kent Registered: 18 Jan 2004 Posts: 21,768 Status: Offline |
Post #84
aaron6 wrote: stan_306gti6 wrote: not at all, its only a 306 not an ariel Atom. Aaron's right - I wouldn't spend out on a 'new' car either. Having said that though, if I was in his position of needing a daily drive for work etc, it would be a cheap derv. That way, you get to keep the '6' for weekend fun. Daily drive FTW! Been using mine for over 3 years and my blaze for 4 years. But then im strange and love driving it everyday. There's nothing wrong with that, I was just looking at the fuel saving you'd enjoy. As for strange for wanting to drive it everyday, I don't think so at all mate. I reckon I'm the strange one wanting to keep it safely tucked up in the warmth of a garage and not drive it. ________________________________________ "Supercharged - 454.1bhp/317.5lb/ft"Peugeot 306 GTi-6 2000 (X), Moonstone |
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Posted 12th Oct 2013 at 07:36
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aaron6
Seasoned Pro Location: On the sofa in maidstone Registered: 16 May 2006 Posts: 5,840 Status: Offline |
Post #85
I got my 6 to save on fuel. (Impreza's are thirsty!) I save £30 a week now. However, for those concerned about high mpg, the wifes lightly tweaked HDI keeps hitting 50+mpg. Last week mine got 25mpg... Oh well, id still rather drive mine daily. ________________________________________ See the sheer power and might of the lesser known burrowing owl. |
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Posted 12th Oct 2013 at 08:03
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aaron6
Seasoned Pro Location: On the sofa in maidstone Registered: 16 May 2006 Posts: 5,840 Status: Offline |
Post #86
stan_306gti6 wrote: We all know your a bit strange Stan... aaron6 wrote: stan_306gti6 wrote: not at all, its only a 306 not an ariel Atom. Aaron's right - I wouldn't spend out on a 'new' car either. Having said that though, if I was in his position of needing a daily drive for work etc, it would be a cheap derv. That way, you get to keep the '6' for weekend fun. Daily drive FTW! Been using mine for over 3 years and my blaze for 4 years. But then im strange and love driving it everyday. There's nothing wrong with that, I was just looking at the fuel saving you'd enjoy. As for strange for wanting to drive it everyday, I don't think so at all mate. I reckon I'm the strange one wanting to keep it safely tucked up in the warmth of a garage and not drive it.  ________________________________________ See the sheer power and might of the lesser known burrowing owl. |
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Posted 12th Oct 2013 at 08:05
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mattyrallye
Seasoned Pro  Location: gillingham Registered: 02 Nov 2007 Posts: 1,202 Status: Offline |
Post #87
aaron6 wrote: gwyn rallye wrote: Aaron, Im very much with you on the above.... bought a Golf GTTDI 150 a few years back... what a disaster! Ended up needing a new cam, new head casting, new clutch/ dual mass flywheel, new rear beam mounts, aircon pump... the list goes on. Cost me thousands to put right. Thats why Im on my 4th 6/Rallye as I know I can do most simple tasks myself... and as you say worst case is engine, and they are dirt cheap at present. ^^^^ This What a mare. And only reinforced my thoughts. Not a great example to be honest. Golf gttdi 150 was always a dog that's why I got a bora tdi 130 that never went wrong. The 130 pd lump was always the safer bet. Vw screwed too much power out the engine hence all the above issues are engine related. ________________________________________ Previous china gti6 and Rallye owner.Now a proud Astor Gti 6 owner. Missing he BMW already... |
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Posted 12th Oct 2013 at 08:46
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mattyrallye
Seasoned Pro Location: gillingham Registered: 02 Nov 2007 Posts: 1,202 Status: Offline |
Post #88
mechanical_repairs wrote: I can also say that bar the wheels and front brakes the car was sold exactly as it was when it came to me, it may be a case that it had a race style steering wheel fitted and this had no air bag so the system was ditched so to speak. Hardly the biggest disaster out there so to speak, wires cable tied out the way, seems it was done on purpose? Also if I remember right the bulb was removed too, think we know what's happened here, it was removed Carl Hmm at the above... "not the biggest disaster" would have been if my partner had a crash and I don't know about it. It's also lost the roller bearing wishbones along the way. Not that I give a s**t about them coz there a crap design. Open face bearings on a road environment that you have to grease all the time.. No thanks. Huge design floor and they should be sealed case bearings that are pre greased. I'm not a synic or anything I just like saying stuff how it is. ________________________________________ Previous china gti6 and Rallye owner.Now a proud Astor Gti 6 owner. Missing he BMW already... |
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Posted 12th Oct 2013 at 08:53
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aaron6
Seasoned Pro Location: On the sofa in maidstone Registered: 16 May 2006 Posts: 5,840 Status: Offline |
Post #89
Yeah, id get some be arsed greasing them. Although im sure I could buy steel sealed bearings or even machine some plain bearing. Hmmm... might look into that... Airbags are a must tbh. Im in agreement with ya matt. It took a while to sort mine out but the pease of minds their now. See the crash Gary had and the fact the airbags all deployed and he got out unscathed makes them worthwhile. Could've been a whole different story if they were bodged. ________________________________________ See the sheer power and might of the lesser known burrowing owl. |
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Posted 12th Oct 2013 at 09:11
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stan_306gti6
Forum Admin Location: Kent Registered: 18 Jan 2004 Posts: 21,768 Status: Offline |
Post #90
Roller bearing bushes a bad design?Hardly. *If* you keep on top of maintenance, then they are not an issue at all. Why is it these days people just want the best car on the planet, which costs nothing, is mega reliable and yet they can't be arsed with maintenance? ________________________________________ "Supercharged - 454.1bhp/317.5lb/ft"Peugeot 306 GTi-6 2000 (X), Moonstone |
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Posted 12th Oct 2013 at 09:24
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mattyrallye
Seasoned Pro Location: gillingham Registered: 02 Nov 2007 Posts: 1,202 Status: Offline |
Post #91
I can be bothered with maintenance Stan. I'm not bothered if things wear out hence i have no issue over the driveshaft thats fine but I hate bad design or dodgy repair jobs!! ________________________________________ Previous china gti6 and Rallye owner.Now a proud Astor Gti 6 owner. Missing he BMW already... |
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Posted 12th Oct 2013 at 09:34
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RetroPug
Seasoned Pro  Location: Leicestershire Registered: 15 Jan 2013 Posts: 2,473 Status: Offline |
Post #92
armzs16 wrote: RetroPug wrote: http://www.306gti6.com/forum/showthread.php?id=45240 You could plug them back in? Often they are still working but the plugs or wiring have come loose, so a new bulb and reattaching everything might sort it and would actually give you airbags in the event of a crash. Every wire had been cut off either side of the plugs and not joined back together. Then stuffed down under the carpet and cable tied up. Someone clearly didn't want their airbags working where as Matt's mrs will drive the 6 daily so he wants them in good shape. Had to figure out which wires joined to which by educated guesswork as the wires either side of the plugs are different colours. All good now though. And the passengers airbag has been removed in favour of a top glove box from a rallye / phase 1 hence the need for a fused resistor. Not a bad FAQ that but I'd be hard soldering the connections not using bullet terminals and the "rotary switch" is called a clock-spring lol. Ah ok. I misread it and was they'd just been unplugged and the bulb removed to hide the common airbag fault of the wiring working loose. ________________________________________ 61k miles Ph.1 Diablo '6 Project Thread |
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Posted 12th Oct 2013 at 09:43
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mechanical_repairs
Seasoned Pro Location: leicester Registered: 10 Jan 2005 Posts: 12,122 Status: Offline |
Post #93
mattyrallye wrote: mechanical_repairs wrote: I can also say that bar the wheels and front brakes the car was sold exactly as it was when it came to me, it may be a case that it had a race style steering wheel fitted and this had no air bag so the system was ditched so to speak. Hardly the biggest disaster out there so to speak, wires cable tied out the way, seems it was done on purpose? Also if I remember right the bulb was removed too, think we know what's happened here, it was removed Carl Hmm at the above... "not the biggest disaster" would have been if my partner had a crash and I don't know about it. It's also lost the roller bearing wishbones along the way. Not that I give a s**t about them coz there a crap design. Open face bearings on a road environment that you have to grease all the time.. No thanks. Huge design floor and they should be sealed case bearings that are pre greased. I'm not a synic or anything I just like saying stuff how it is. Well I never took them, the car literally sat on my front the whole time I owned it, there was a race steering wheel on it when I sold the car. Carl ________________________________________ C.G.Cars of Leicester, Peugeot/Citroen/Renault specialist Tel: 01162 624498/07799 405184 WWW.CGCARSLEICESTER.CO.UK36 narborough road south, Leicester LE3 2fn MOT station now open, tests £35 with a free retest. Recovery available with a recovery unit, for those not so local jobs Also offer the loan of a free courtesy car 306 dturbo |
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Posted 12th Oct 2013 at 15:05
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aaron6
Seasoned Pro Location: On the sofa in maidstone Registered: 16 May 2006 Posts: 5,840 Status: Offline |
Post #94
stan_306gti6 wrote: Im all over the maintenance. Just cant be arsed greasing them. If I were to fit them, I look up some normal sealed bearings. Cant see the point in having open bearings. Its not like they do much rotating. Left a bit, right a bit.. Roller bearing bushes a bad design? Hardly. *If* you keep on top of maintenance, then they are not an issue at all. Why is it these days people just want the best car on the planet, which costs nothing, is mega reliable and yet they can't be arsed with maintenance? ________________________________________ See the sheer power and might of the lesser known burrowing owl. |
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Posted 12th Oct 2013 at 17:56
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stan_306gti6
Forum Admin Location: Kent Registered: 18 Jan 2004 Posts: 21,768 Status: Offline |
Post #95
Greasing things IS part of maintenance.God help you if you had an older car full of grease nipples then. I can't see the issue, one pump of grease every 2,000miles. Hardly a daily occurrence is it? ________________________________________ "Supercharged - 454.1bhp/317.5lb/ft"Peugeot 306 GTi-6 2000 (X), Moonstone |
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Posted 13th Oct 2013 at 08:22
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aaron6
Seasoned Pro Location: On the sofa in maidstone Registered: 16 May 2006 Posts: 5,840 Status: Offline |
Post #96
I meant, why not just use sealed bearings?________________________________________ See the sheer power and might of the lesser known burrowing owl. |
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Posted 13th Oct 2013 at 08:28
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aaron6
Seasoned Pro Location: On the sofa in maidstone Registered: 16 May 2006 Posts: 5,840 Status: Offline |
Post #97
Plus 2000 miles is every 6 weeks or so for me. Its about every 5 years for you which wouldnt be too bad... ________________________________________ See the sheer power and might of the lesser known burrowing owl. |
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Posted 13th Oct 2013 at 08:30
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stan_306gti6
Forum Admin Location: Kent Registered: 18 Jan 2004 Posts: 21,768 Status: Offline |
Post #98
True, but to spend 10 minutes every 6 weeks to grease them isn't exactly a lot to ask...You don't even have to jack the car up. ________________________________________ "Supercharged - 454.1bhp/317.5lb/ft"Peugeot 306 GTi-6 2000 (X), Moonstone |
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Posted 13th Oct 2013 at 13:56
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aaron6
Seasoned Pro Location: On the sofa in maidstone Registered: 16 May 2006 Posts: 5,840 Status: Offline |
Post #99
Or... just fit sealed bearings... ________________________________________ See the sheer power and might of the lesser known burrowing owl. |
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Posted 13th Oct 2013 at 14:13
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stan_306gti6
Forum Admin Location: Kent Registered: 18 Jan 2004 Posts: 21,768 Status: Offline |
Post #100
You could - why not redesign them if you think they would be better that way?________________________________________ "Supercharged - 454.1bhp/317.5lb/ft"Peugeot 306 GTi-6 2000 (X), Moonstone |
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Posted 13th Oct 2013 at 14:35
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