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 russbez
Seasoned Pro  Location: Inverness-Shire Registered: 19 Dec 2005 Posts: 7,459 Status: Offline |
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 they look different than the ones i usually use i have a leak, purchased these ones off ebay and they look different to the ones that were actually in the picture  ________________________________________ TEAM HIGH BOOST SUPERCHARGED RALLYEMy Rallye project thread |
 Posted 9th Sep 2013 at 16:40
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beez_neez_gt
Seasoned Pro  Location: @ de limit of adhesion ! Registered: 14 Oct 2008 Posts: 2,916 Status: Offline |
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Always use PUG type, well worth it, ebay type are well known for being crap.Id like to know how to stop the oil drain plug from leaking, I used a new crush washer and did it up at the correct torque yet still have the odd drip now and again. ________________________________________ Pug fee`ver,Pick a Bogey, buy a Pug. Black 306 GTI 6 Standard, was 60k mileage, bargain!! Clicky: [url =http://www.306gti6.com]click here[/url] remove the space between [url & = |
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Posted 9th Sep 2013 at 17:00
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mechanical_repairs
Seasoned Pro  Location: leicester Registered: 10 Jan 2005 Posts: 12,122 Status: Offline |
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beez_neez_gt wrote: Always use PUG type, well worth it, ebay type are well known for being crap. Id like to know how to stop the oil drain plug from leaking, I used a new crush washer and did it up at the correct torque yet still have the odd drip now and again. Put some ptfe tape on the threads, never myself known them to leak. Carl ________________________________________ C.G.Cars of Leicester, Peugeot/Citroen/Renault specialist Tel: 01162 624498/07799 405184 WWW.CGCARSLEICESTER.CO.UK36 narborough road south, Leicester LE3 2fn MOT station now open, tests £35 with a free retest. Recovery available with a recovery unit, for those not so local jobs Also offer the loan of a free courtesy car 306 dturbo |
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Posted 9th Sep 2013 at 17:08
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beez_neez_gt
Seasoned Pro Location: @ de limit of adhesion ! Registered: 14 Oct 2008 Posts: 2,916 Status: Offline |
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Thanks carl, I did think of using that but was unsure whether to or not.________________________________________ Pug fee`ver,Pick a Bogey, buy a Pug. Black 306 GTI 6 Standard, was 60k mileage, bargain!! Clicky: [url =http://www.306gti6.com]click here[/url] remove the space between [url & = |
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Posted 9th Sep 2013 at 17:12
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russbez
Seasoned Pro Location: Inverness-Shire Registered: 19 Dec 2005 Posts: 7,459 Status: Offline |
Post #5
pretty sure my sumpplug dribbles too come to think about it!________________________________________ TEAM HIGH BOOST SUPERCHARGED RALLYEMy Rallye project thread |
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Posted 9th Sep 2013 at 18:10
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fordygti
Seasoned Pro  Location: Walpole St Andrew Registered: 07 Dec 2009 Posts: 1,257 Status: Offline |
Post #6
Me to, my driveway is starting to look like its painted pokadot!  ________________________________________ 98 onyx black 306 Rallye53 Nissan Primastar silver (work horse) 58 black Volvo c30 sport |
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Posted 9th Sep 2013 at 18:40
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allanallen
Seasoned Pro  Location: Buxton Registered: 01 May 2007 Posts: 1,399 Status: Offline |
Post #7
They look like the old style genuine seals to me?!________________________________________ www.bridgecraftmotorsport.co.uk |
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Posted 9th Sep 2013 at 20:22
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ryangti6
Seasoned Pro  Location: Pontypool Registered: 01 Sep 2006 Posts: 1,839 Status: Offline |
Post #8
I'm sure if they repeatedly got fitted and removed you would notice a difference in quality but I've used cheap motor factor ones and gen pug and never had either leak.As Allen has said though that looks very similar to what pug have supplied me in the past anyway. ________________________________________ Ryan |
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Posted 9th Sep 2013 at 20:33
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beez_neez_gt
Seasoned Pro Location: @ de limit of adhesion ! Registered: 14 Oct 2008 Posts: 2,916 Status: Offline |
Post #9
The ones I have from Pug don't look like them.Every time shafts are removed they should always be changed as part of the job for a good seal, I put some gbox oil around the lips too. Oh and after a spirited drive iv noticed a little leak with genuine ones so  ________________________________________ Pug fee`ver,Pick a Bogey, buy a Pug. Black 306 GTI 6 Standard, was 60k mileage, bargain!! Clicky: [url =http://www.306gti6.com]click here[/url] remove the space between [url & = |
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Posted 9th Sep 2013 at 21:01
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mattgti6phase2
Seasoned Pro  Location: inside my 6 abusing the tarmac!! Registered: 16 Jul 2010 Posts: 2,371 Status: Offline |
Post #10
Those look fine to me. I have ECP ones and they've never leaked. Make sure they're seated flush and the shafts are fully engaged. Sometimes they go in far but not quite far enough that reassuring donk let's you know they have gone all the way in  ________________________________________ Team Nile 6 Team: 40.2 MPG  5 x a 306 owner! currently abusing type r's in a town near you ™  I truely live for the 306 ® Build date: 29th October 1997 Wednesday's car midweek madness  |
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Posted 9th Sep 2013 at 21:57
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russbez
Seasoned Pro Location: Inverness-Shire Registered: 19 Dec 2005 Posts: 7,459 Status: Offline |
Post #11
not sure if i will bother using these, i see what Pug have tommorow________________________________________ TEAM HIGH BOOST SUPERCHARGED RALLYEMy Rallye project thread |
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Posted 9th Sep 2013 at 22:25
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mattgti6phase2
Seasoned Pro Location: inside my 6 abusing the tarmac!! Registered: 16 Jul 2010 Posts: 2,371 Status: Offline |
Post #12
How much were they? Those are absolutely fine. ________________________________________ Team Nile 6Team: 40.2 MPG 5 x a 306 owner! currently abusing type r's in a town near you ™ I truely live for the 306 ® Build date: 29th October 1997 Wednesday's car midweek madness |
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Posted 9th Sep 2013 at 22:35
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footah212
Senior User  Location: Paisley Registered: 16 Sep 2010 Posts: 861 Status: Offline |
Post #13
Cheap motor factor ones fitted to mine. No leaks________________________________________ Phase 2 Blaze GTi6PS3 - Black Ops 2 Engine crane for hire Renfrewshire |
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Posted 9th Sep 2013 at 22:57
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beez_neez_gt
Seasoned Pro Location: @ de limit of adhesion ! Registered: 14 Oct 2008 Posts: 2,916 Status: Offline |
Post #14
For the price of OE Pug ones and oil its not worth getting anything less.If you Google it or try 205 drivers forum, that is where people have used the cheap ones and they have failed too. Like with most things, buy after market cheap parts and expect them not to last as long as OE equipment. ________________________________________ Pug fee`ver,Pick a Bogey, buy a Pug. Black 306 GTI 6 Standard, was 60k mileage, bargain!! Clicky: [url =http://www.306gti6.com]click here[/url] remove the space between [url & = |
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Posted 9th Sep 2013 at 23:24
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russbez
Seasoned Pro Location: Inverness-Shire Registered: 19 Dec 2005 Posts: 7,459 Status: Offline |
Post #15
they were a tener________________________________________ TEAM HIGH BOOST SUPERCHARGED RALLYEMy Rallye project thread |
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Posted 10th Sep 2013 at 00:16
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beez_neez_gt
Seasoned Pro Location: @ de limit of adhesion ! Registered: 14 Oct 2008 Posts: 2,916 Status: Offline |
Post #16
Set of Pug genuine ones are 27.60 inc VAT.________________________________________ Pug fee`ver,Pick a Bogey, buy a Pug. Black 306 GTI 6 Standard, was 60k mileage, bargain!! Clicky: [url =http://www.306gti6.com]click here[/url] remove the space between [url & = |
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Posted 10th Sep 2013 at 01:27
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allanallen
Seasoned Pro Location: Buxton Registered: 01 May 2007 Posts: 1,399 Status: Offline |
Post #17
beez_neez_gt wrote: The ones I have from Pug don't look like them. Every time shafts are removed they should always be changed as part of the job for a good seal, I put some gbox oil around the lips too. Oh and after a spirited drive iv noticed a little leak with genuine ones so Just because yours look different doesn't mean that they're wrong. The items the OP has pictured look similar to the older style genuine peugeot seals with the plastic gaurd, you're obviously not familiar with them so you shouldn't comment. I've used several sets like these with no issues. I've used even nastier looking cheapo ones with no problems either. Gearbox seals (even cheap ones) generally don't leak if they're fitted properly. They don't need to be changed everytime the shafts are removed unless you're a heavy handed rough arse whilst removing the shafts. You're honestly more likely to damage them pushing the shaft in rather than removing them. If your genuine seals leak why the hell are you telling folk to fit them?? ________________________________________ www.bridgecraftmotorsport.co.uk |
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Posted 10th Sep 2013 at 05:57
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mattgti6phase2
Seasoned Pro Location: inside my 6 abusing the tarmac!! Registered: 16 Jul 2010 Posts: 2,371 Status: Offline |
Post #18
^^ Exactly this. ________________________________________ Team Nile 6Team: 40.2 MPG 5 x a 306 owner! currently abusing type r's in a town near you ™ I truely live for the 306 ® Build date: 29th October 1997 Wednesday's car midweek madness |
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Posted 10th Sep 2013 at 09:15
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gwyn rallye
Regular  Location: Anglesey Registered: 05 Jul 2007 Posts: 443 Status: Offline |
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^^ Yes this. When i went to buy some from my local Pug dealer he asked if i wanted the early type (like these) or the ones that superseeded them (no white plastic teeth, just black rubber/ plastic)________________________________________ Bianca white 306 RallyeArctic blue Clio 182 FF Alpine white 205 1.9 GTI |
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Posted 10th Sep 2013 at 11:14
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stan_306gti6
Forum Admin Location: Kent Registered: 18 Jan 2004 Posts: 21,768 Status: Offline |
Post #20
I would only use genuine seals personally.________________________________________ "Supercharged - 454.1bhp/317.5lb/ft"Peugeot 306 GTi-6 2000 (X), Moonstone  |
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Posted 10th Sep 2013 at 17:34
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beez_neez_gt
Seasoned Pro Location: @ de limit of adhesion ! Registered: 14 Oct 2008 Posts: 2,916 Status: Offline |
Post #21
Exactly, if oe ones have slight leaks under a hard load then the cheaper ones are bound to be far worse as the op has had. Oe ones are all black, the last ones I fitted were for the 106 I was on. These seals are quite tough so I doubt they'd get damaged via the shaft. These cheap ones may be fine, it maybe the shaft contact area wasnt clean enough or something, either way id prefer OE ones which are made to last. As they saying goes, buy cheap pay twice.When id beeen out for a blast came back and checked underneath for another reason I did spot a slight leak, however I have no big drops on the mat under the car in the garage, so they don't leak alone but some does come out when the cars been for a good blast. I know this because my engine bay and every part is in prestine condition. Also on a side note, iv used a crush washer, torqued up the gbox plug correctly yet it still has dripps coming out now and again. ________________________________________ Pug fee`ver,Pick a Bogey, buy a Pug. Black 306 GTI 6 Standard, was 60k mileage, bargain!! Clicky: [url =http://www.306gti6.com]click here[/url] remove the space between [url & = |
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Posted 10th Sep 2013 at 19:16
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honestly3k
Seasoned Pro  Location: Berkhamsted Registered: 06 Apr 2009 Posts: 2,390 Status: Offline |
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^^ That's weird as ive used the same crushed washer 3 times in a row and mine doesn't drip.Your cars fanny must be loose. ________________________________________ ''Oh, it does handle like a golf!'' Why drive a Golf....when you can drive a GTi-6? |
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Posted 10th Sep 2013 at 19:51
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allanallen
Seasoned Pro Location: Buxton Registered: 01 May 2007 Posts: 1,399 Status: Offline |
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beez_neez_gt wrote: Exactly, if oe ones have slight leaks under a hard load then the cheaper ones are bound to be far worse as the op has had. Oe ones are all black, the last ones I fitted were for the 106 I was on. These seals are quite tough so I doubt they'd get damaged via the shaft. These cheap ones may be fine, it maybe the shaft contact area wasnt clean enough or something, either way id prefer OE ones which are made to last. As they saying goes, buy cheap pay twice. When id beeen out for a blast came back and checked underneath for another reason I did spot a slight leak, however I have no big drops on the mat under the car in the garage, so they don't leak alone but some does come out when the cars been for a good blast. I know this because my engine bay and every part is in prestine condition. Also on a side note, iv used a crush washer, torqued up the gbox plug correctly yet it still has dripps coming out now and again. What a load of contradictory drivvle..... How you can offer advice on something you've never used then preach about the fantastic quality of genuine seals that you can't even get to seal is completely beyond me?? ________________________________________ www.bridgecraftmotorsport.co.uk |
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Posted 10th Sep 2013 at 21:39
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beez_neez_gt
Seasoned Pro Location: @ de limit of adhesion ! Registered: 14 Oct 2008 Posts: 2,916 Status: Offline |
Post #24
Well since the poster had had trouble with the cheapo type, my friends with 106's had trouble using them, other people on other forums have had trouble with them, need I go on, I don't think so. Getting them to seal properly has nothing to do with me, they have been fitted properly, driveshaft cleaned properly before insertion etc, god knows why it don't fully seal, maybe dodgy side, its not rocket science, easy to fit. However the other cars iv worked on using OE ones haven't leak and still fully recommend them because with things like this you can't get any better quality, or have you missed that part of it. Oh and only the NS one has the leak BTW. Whether you like it or not makes no difference, it comes from my experience, this inc helping friends on their cars when using cheapo type they bought. Oh and for the record, other's on here have had drips coming out from these plugs as well inc sump ones. Some help Seems i'm not the only one having problems with the NS one, both cars use the same seals. more help even more Seems a common problem with many things that can affect them. I've fitted them as the Haynes manual says so and like the first link I still have leaks under load but not when car is standing. I have checked everywhere and it is only coming from the NS seal. I guess it could have got damaged or its a dud, either way i'll fix it. Lets try and keep it on topic shall we, talking about a persons experience saying its drivel isn't helping the poster here. As you well know, there are always so many things that can be the cause when it comes to cars and parts etc. ________________________________________ Pug fee`ver,Pick a Bogey, buy a Pug. Black 306 GTI 6 Standard, was 60k mileage, bargain!! Clicky: [url =http://www.306gti6.com]click here[/url] remove the space between [url & = |
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Posted 11th Sep 2013 at 06:45
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allanallen
Seasoned Pro Location: Buxton Registered: 01 May 2007 Posts: 1,399 Status: Offline |
Post #25
Oh god, what have I done! These just arrived from the factors, I'm gonna fit then to my rally car so they'll get lots of 'hard load'! Whatever that means  Will they leak??   ________________________________________ www.bridgecraftmotorsport.co.uk |
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Posted 13th Sep 2013 at 10:09
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