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 jamiek_uk2000
Seasoned Pro  Location: Llanelli Registered: 18 Apr 2009 Posts: 1,925 Status: Offline |
Post #1
Just seen the stats for the new Golf R, 296BHP/280lbs of torque and you can put all the power to the rear wheels if you so choose  I know it will have a nice price tag on it but that sounds like it could be fun to drive. Not as fast as when (if) I ever boost my 6  ________________________________________ 205 GTi Red - G939 RTU - Died!306 GTi 6 Diablo - Being resurrected! Project Thread Looking for: VTS P1 Rack PR1.2 16" |
 Posted 21st Aug 2013 at 22:08
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welshpug!
Capt Pedantic  Location: Bigend, Wales. Registered: 27 Mar 2007 Posts: 25,839 Status: Offline |
Post #2
weighs two tons, same as all new cars, will feel slow, cost lots, but apparently use a lot less fuel than older cars.________________________________________ need a part number? get on here - http://public.servicebox.peugeot.comBring on the Trumpets. |
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Posted 21st Aug 2013 at 22:34
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Rich E
Forum Admin Location: Hertfordshire Registered: 27 Apr 2005 Posts: 7,757 Status: Offline |
Post #3
welshpug! wrote: weighs two tons, same as all new cars, will feel slow, cost lots, but apparently use a lot less fuel than older cars. 0-62 in 4.9 seconds, so I doubt it'll feel slow. ________________________________________ Rich |
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Posted 21st Aug 2013 at 22:40
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JWP EFi
Turbo Legend!  Location: edinburgh Registered: 07 Mar 2010 Posts: 2,163 Status: Offline |
Post #4
i was working on a tfsi golf today and was gobsmacked that it weighs almost 1800kg! no wonder the handling is crap |
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Posted 21st Aug 2013 at 22:40
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Rich E
Forum Admin Location: Hertfordshire Registered: 27 Apr 2005 Posts: 7,757 Status: Offline |
Post #5
T99PUG wrote: i was working on a tfsi golf today and was gobsmacked that it weighs almost 1800kg! no wonder the handling is crap It doesn't. That will have been the gross weight, which is the maximum weight the vehicle can me. The current 220bhp GTi's are mid-1300kgs unladen weight depending on transmission and options. Same mistake that Mei made above regarding the weight. https://www.gov.uk/vehicle-weights-explained ________________________________________ Rich |
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Posted 21st Aug 2013 at 22:49
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welshpug!
Capt Pedantic Location: Bigend, Wales. Registered: 27 Mar 2007 Posts: 25,839 Status: Offline |
Post #6
Gti is 2wd, the r is haldex x4.________________________________________ need a part number? get on here - http://public.servicebox.peugeot.comBring on the Trumpets. |
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Posted 21st Aug 2013 at 22:51
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welshpug!
Capt Pedantic Location: Bigend, Wales. Registered: 27 Mar 2007 Posts: 25,839 Status: Offline |
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Hot hatches should weigh under 1200 kg at the most imo!________________________________________ need a part number? get on here - http://public.servicebox.peugeot.comBring on the Trumpets. |
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Posted 21st Aug 2013 at 22:52
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Rich E
Forum Admin Location: Hertfordshire Registered: 27 Apr 2005 Posts: 7,757 Status: Offline |
Post #8
welshpug! wrote: Gti is 2wd, the r is haldex x4. And you think that'll add 650kg?! Seriously? 1500kg tops I reckon. Can't be arsed to look it up. ________________________________________ Rich |
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Posted 21st Aug 2013 at 23:03
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thugpuggin
Seasoned Pro  Location: Bristol Registered: 10 Apr 2004 Posts: 26,784 Status: Offline |
Post #9
What Mei says is generally gospel so factor that in what we can read on Google that basically can't be trusted.I know all new cars are 2 T, don't you? ________________________________________ Black X Reg PIII.VGTi 6 A4212 pt 1 A4212 pt 2 Searching the streets of Bristol for 1.36p/day.Joint Kent Leader |
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Posted 21st Aug 2013 at 23:04
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jamiek_uk2000
Seasoned Pro Location: Llanelli Registered: 18 Apr 2009 Posts: 1,925 Status: Offline |
Post #10
The Mk6 had a curb weight of 1446, so I can't imagine it being much more. Surprised that VW don't do a "Rallye/Cup/any other lightweight" version, Porsche love to do it and charge more. I bet that they could easily shave off 100kg with the amount of gear that goes into them________________________________________ 205 GTi Red - G939 RTU - Died!306 GTi 6 Diablo - Being resurrected! Project Thread Looking for: VTS P1 Rack PR1.2 16" |
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Posted 21st Aug 2013 at 23:07
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mik
Seasoned Pro  Location: Kent Registered: 17 Feb 2011 Posts: 2,100 Status: Offline |
Post #11
Haldex is cr@p anyway, it is not a real 4WD system, it uses wet clutches to shuffle power to the rear wheels when sensors detect slip at the front, and it has its own ECU which can and does fail, for plenty of ££££ bills to the unlucky owner. Since electronics have long since been the most likely thing to break on a car why do manufacturers insist on putting more of them into cars when purely mechanical tech (e.g. FWD with Torsen or ATB diff) delivers the necessary result. The Haldex fluid and filter needs regular changing too, and clutches, even wet ones, don't last for ever, so why add a couple more for little result. In contrast the old Audi quattro system gave true 4WD, had a mechanical diff (Torsen on later versions), and rarely if ever went wrong - and was a superior driving experience. ________________________________________ Cherry Rallye SOLD |
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Posted 21st Aug 2013 at 23:38
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mjt4130
Regular  Location: hessle Registered: 29 Sep 2009 Posts: 200 Status: Offline |
Post #12
I weighed in my B5 Passat estate for scrap, with a spare tailgate and loads of junk in the boot at 1380kg. That felt pretty heavy to me. Its amazing what they can do with controls and dampers to make a car Feel light these days though. Would have thought the extra weight in new cars is noticed when you really press on and notice how the brakes and tyres melt. Think the Haldex 4wd system was made for skiing trips to the Alps, not hot hatches. |
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Posted 22nd Aug 2013 at 00:12
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anth
Seasoned Pro  Location: Colchester Registered: 04 Apr 2006 Posts: 3,651 Status: Offline |
Post #13
mik wrote: Haldex is cr@p anyway, it is not a real 4WD system, it uses wet clutches to shuffle power to the rear wheels when sensors detect slip at the front, and it has its own ECU which can and does fail, for plenty of ££££ bills to the unlucky owner. Since electronics have long since been the most likely thing to break on a car why do manufacturers insist on putting more of them into cars when purely mechanical tech (e.g. FWD with Torsen or ATB diff) delivers the necessary result. The Haldex fluid and filter needs regular changing too, and clutches, even wet ones, don't last for ever, so why add a couple more for little result. In contrast the old Audi quattro system gave true 4WD, had a mechanical diff (Torsen on later versions), and rarely if ever went wrong - and was a superior driving experience. I don't think its that bad it certainly puts the power down easier than 2WD although i agree with what your getting at. You're putting all that weight of a 4WD system in so why not have a proper 4WD system/ |
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Posted 22nd Aug 2013 at 23:22
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eliotrw
Seasoned Pro  Location: Southwark Registered: 18 Jul 2010 Posts: 4,864 Status: Offline |
Post #14
YawnIt will be a capable but wooly lardy and un driver focused pos. Frankly now they dont even use the vr6 i dont see the usp. Would have to be bonkers to buy one over a m135i ________________________________________ Ex- Phase 3 China GTi-6 T-Reg |
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Posted 22nd Aug 2013 at 23:32
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superchargedblack1997gti6
Seasoned Pro  Location: guildford Registered: 15 Aug 2009 Posts: 2,376 Status: Offline |
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Every car i see round mine is a golf! I'm sure as said it will be very capable and probably quite rapid but will it be a fun drive! Plus would i spend 30k on a new hatchback the answers a resounding no!________________________________________ Super high boost Completed, destroyer of gearboxes and 160mph club |
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Posted 23rd Aug 2013 at 10:03
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russbez
Seasoned Pro  Location: Inverness-Shire Registered: 19 Dec 2005 Posts: 7,459 Status: Offline |
Post #16
really like the look of thembut yes rather heavy!! welshpug! wrote: Hot hatches should weigh under 1200 kg at the most imo! sad that these times are over  ________________________________________ TEAM HIGH BOOST SUPERCHARGED RALLYEMy Rallye project thread |
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Posted 23rd Aug 2013 at 10:15
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welshpug!
Capt Pedantic Location: Bigend, Wales. Registered: 27 Mar 2007 Posts: 25,839 Status: Offline |
Post #17
Rich E fails to see the metaphoric exaggeration of the weights They should rename the polo as the golf, but even that is so much bigger than old golfs! ________________________________________ need a part number? get on here - http://public.servicebox.peugeot.comBring on the Trumpets. |
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Posted 23rd Aug 2013 at 10:17
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pugsy77
Senior User  Location: Harrow Registered: 09 Oct 2005 Posts: 660 Status: Offline |
Post #18
Never driven a Golf R, but have had one too many passengers rides on a fully spec'd brand new Golf Edition 35 and I was highly impressed with it's handling at high speeds in the b roads in both dry and wet conditions. Naturally this is a Peugeot forum so bias is expected and so does individual opinions. Besides I'm not even sure, why this post had to exist on General and not on Off Topic? ________________________________________ 306 RALLYE |
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Posted 23rd Aug 2013 at 11:10
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rikky
🦔 Location: cheshire Registered: 28 Feb 2004 Posts: 26,796 Status: Offline |
Post #19
my brother has a brand new gun metal grey polo. it is very nice. HTH________________________________________ 306 rallye reproduction decals (full sets/individual decals) | 306 b-pillar textured vinyl weatherstrips306 slam panel esso stickers | 306 yellow / orange / pension fund red side door badges gti6 inlet manifold badges | 306 rear boot badges (p2/p3) winner of Extraction of toys from prams with outstanding vigour award 2009 [source: gti6 owners club] |
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Posted 23rd Aug 2013 at 11:39
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marco gti6
Seasoned Pro  Location: Troisvierges Registered: 09 Mar 2009 Posts: 1,350 Status: Offline |
Post #20
M)k5 golf GTI's edition 30 are insane fast cars. Mk6 R is also a very nice car, I have driven both an can say both are silly fast. My mate's mk 5 made 299ps/BHP when we went on the dyno my Lb 6 only made 240 and his golf only has a good remap. The R I have driven was bog standard with the Dsg box and felt some what faster than my 6. We never go to try a side by side run unfortunately, but he sold it a few weeks ago and got a A1 Quattro  |
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Posted 25th Aug 2013 at 10:14
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oldbrownshoe
Seasoned Pro  Location: Holon Israel Registered: 08 Aug 2008 Posts: 1,795 Status: Offline |
Post #21
Rich E wrote: welshpug! wrote: weighs two tons, same as all new cars, will feel slow, cost lots, but apparently use a lot less fuel than older cars. 0-62 in 4.9 seconds, so I doubt it'll feel slow. He compared it with his 500 hp ZX16V. ________________________________________ French military victories?Did you mean French military defeats? |
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Posted 25th Aug 2013 at 12:11
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welshpug!
Capt Pedantic Location: Bigend, Wales. Registered: 27 Mar 2007 Posts: 25,839 Status: Offline |
Post #22
 ________________________________________ need a part number? get on here - http://public.servicebox.peugeot.comBring on the Trumpets. |
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Posted 25th Aug 2013 at 12:20
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mr west
Senior User  Location: herts Registered: 13 Sep 2010 Posts: 742 Status: Offline |
Post #23
saw the golf r on fifth gear driven by tiff the other day, all it does is under steer, 4x4 system on it aint worth a w**k.it only beat the loen r 2wd by 1/2 a second________________________________________ white rallyecherry dead rallye s16 |
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Posted 25th Aug 2013 at 12:38
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