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Author | Subject: Maxi bodied 306 & some interesting history |
marco gti6
Seasoned Pro Location: Troisvierges Registered: 09 Mar 2009 Posts: 1,350 Status: Offline |
Post #26
Has the automatic clicky function stopped working |
Posted 10th Aug 2013 at 16:04
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welshpug!
Capt Pedantic Location: Bigend, Wales. Registered: 27 Mar 2007 Posts: 25,839 Status: Offline |
Post #27
no, some URL's arent compatible though, try using tinyurl to convert it.________________________________________ need a part number? get on here - http://public.servicebox.peugeot.comBring on the Trumpets. |
Posted 10th Aug 2013 at 16:09
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Jon foz
Newbie Location: Prescot Registered: 25 Jul 2013 Posts: 45 Status: Offline |
Post #28
Pug heaven,it has been sticker end up and had a few different paint jobs over the years,will put up a few pics of one of them shortly |
Posted 10th Aug 2013 at 16:46
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Jon foz
Newbie Location: Prescot Registered: 25 Jul 2013 Posts: 45 Status: Offline |
Post #29
Here are some wishbones he recently made for a 306 competition car |
Posted 10th Aug 2013 at 16:47
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Jon foz
Newbie Location: Prescot Registered: 25 Jul 2013 Posts: 45 Status: Offline |
Post #30
Here is the car a few years back for pug heavenThis was taken at a hill climb event |
Posted 10th Aug 2013 at 16:49
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Jon foz
Newbie Location: Prescot Registered: 25 Jul 2013 Posts: 45 Status: Offline |
Post #31
A little taste of what his main business is these days...full motion driving simulators |
Posted 10th Aug 2013 at 16:50
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pugheaven
Seasoned Pro Location: Fareham Registered: 17 Dec 2006 Posts: 4,602 Status: Offline |
Post #32
Hep that's the one, iv seen a big poster of it somewhere, think it was a performance gti mag pull out poster |
Posted 10th Aug 2013 at 16:52
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oldbrownshoe
Seasoned Pro Location: Holon Israel Registered: 08 Aug 2008 Posts: 1,795 Status: Offline |
Post #33
marco gti6 wrote: Great looking car The rear beam on the maxis where not standard if i remember right thou... Remember seeing pics of a French guy who builds them somewhere on the web. If you need any help with translations let me know Jon Foz Edit This does not look like a standard rear beam http://www.google.fr/search?q=train+arriere+306+maxi&bav=on.2,or.r_qf.&bvm=bv.50500085,d.Yms&biw=1366&bih=703&pdl=300&um=1&ie=UTF-8&hl=fr&tbm=isch&source=og&sa=N&tab=wi&ei=m1UGUuGeJ8zBswa-jYCIBw It's the same rear beam configuration as in the 206RC/SW which borrowed it's axel from the 306 MAXI "From the front of the car to the rear axle is things are mainly the same as the normal 206, except the slightly stiffer springs, shocks, and a Ø21 mm anti-roll bar on the front axle. The SW rear axle is significantly different from the normal 206: Two ties are added between the suspension arms and meet in the middle onto a cast alloy stay, wrapped around the axle body. It comes with Ø20 mm spring bars, a 22 mm anti-roll bar and stiffer shocks. This layout set-up was originally designed for the 306 Maxi by Peugeot Sport and is, next to the SW, now also used in the 206 RC/GTi180, which was introduced in France halfway into 2003. Because of the more volumetric rear axle, the routing of the exhaust around the rear axle is different from the 206, which ends (as said before), “invisible” pointing 30° downwards, up to 10 cm in front of the rear bumper. The emergency wheel still hangs in a cradle under the car and is a narrow, weight saver. The jack is the standard GTi scissors type." http://206gti.net/206sw-review ________________________________________ French military victories?Did you mean French military defeats? |
Posted 10th Aug 2013 at 18:01
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oldbrownshoe
Seasoned Pro Location: Holon Israel Registered: 08 Aug 2008 Posts: 1,795 Status: Offline |
Post #34
buzzbrightyear wrote: oldbrownshoe wrote: That looks quite technical, there's pipes and wires everywhere, anybody know the spec? A lot of carbon fibers, about 280-300 atmospheric HP at 10,000 RPM , PIPO was for a lot of years the default choice as engine builder for Peugeot sport, the 206WRC used 1.8 16V as was in ZX 1.8 dou the aluminum block. ________________________________________ French military victories?Did you mean French military defeats? |
Posted 10th Aug 2013 at 17:49
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arigti6
Seasoned Pro Location: Wiltshire Registered: 24 Jan 2010 Posts: 2,365 Status: Offline |
Post #35
So Much want!! Not a fan of the Maxi spoilers... I feel it spoils it.The chap who owns/drives the Maxi we see at Pugfest has said the rear beam on it cost 15k... Jon foz wrote: ^^^ That 309 is F'Kin too low on those wheels! ________________________________________ I Live for the 306TEAM CHERRY PINK RALLYE 2008 BMW ///M 320d |
Posted 11th Aug 2013 at 22:34
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allanallen
Seasoned Pro Location: Buxton Registered: 01 May 2007 Posts: 1,399 Status: Offline |
Post #36
oldbrownshoe wrote: marco gti6 wrote: Great looking car The rear beam on the maxis where not standard if i remember right thou... Remember seeing pics of a French guy who builds them somewhere on the web. If you need any help with translations let me know Jon Foz Edit This does not look like a standard rear beam http://www.google.fr/search?q=train+arriere+306+maxi&bav=on.2,or.r_qf.&bvm=bv.50500085,d.Yms&biw=1366&bih=703&pdl=300&um=1&ie=UTF-8&hl=fr&tbm=isch&source=og&sa=N&tab=wi&ei=m1UGUuGeJ8zBswa-jYCIBw It's the same rear beam configuration as in the 206RC/SW which borrowed it's axel from the 306 MAXI "From the front of the car to the rear axle is things are mainly the same as the normal 206, except the slightly stiffer springs, shocks, and a Ø21 mm anti-roll bar on the front axle. The SW rear axle is significantly different from the normal 206: Two ties are added between the suspension arms and meet in the middle onto a cast alloy stay, wrapped around the axle body. It comes with Ø20 mm spring bars, a 22 mm anti-roll bar and stiffer shocks. This layout set-up was originally designed for the 306 Maxi by Peugeot Sport and is, next to the SW, now also used in the 206 RC/GTi180, which was introduced in France halfway into 2003. Because of the more volumetric rear axle, the routing of the exhaust around the rear axle is different from the 206, which ends (as said before), “invisible” pointing 30° downwards, up to 10 cm in front of the rear bumper. The emergency wheel still hangs in a cradle under the car and is a narrow, weight saver. The jack is the standard GTi scissors type." http://206gti.net/206sw-review A proper maxi beam is nothing like that. From memory its a completly Different beam tube, massive fabricated traing arms and an external ARB. I've got pictures somewhere, I'm sure welshpug will have some to hand though ________________________________________ www.bridgecraftmotorsport.co.uk |
Posted 12th Aug 2013 at 07:23
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welshpug!
Capt Pedantic Location: Bigend, Wales. Registered: 27 Mar 2007 Posts: 25,839 Status: Offline |
Post #37
Havent any to hand, but theyre easy to find on google.________________________________________ need a part number? get on here - http://public.servicebox.peugeot.comBring on the Trumpets. |
Posted 12th Aug 2013 at 08:11
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allanallen
Seasoned Pro Location: Buxton Registered: 01 May 2007 Posts: 1,399 Status: Offline |
Post #38
welshpug! wrote: Havent any to hand, but theyre easy to find on google. You disappoint me ________________________________________ www.bridgecraftmotorsport.co.uk |
Posted 12th Aug 2013 at 09:19
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cjm_harris
Seasoned Pro Location: Parts for Sale section Registered: 04 Dec 2007 Posts: 7,442 Status: Offline |
Post #39
Link on previous page ________________________________________ Chris1999 China Gti6 Supercharged [Fun car] >>Project Thread<< 2000 Bianca 306 Diesel [Work runabout] |
Posted 12th Aug 2013 at 15:11
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allanallen
Seasoned Pro Location: Buxton Registered: 01 May 2007 Posts: 1,399 Status: Offline |
Post #40
That's the sort of thing they use on 205s on the continent. 306 maxi, you need to think much more industrial, not sure if these are proper maxi beams but gives you an idea.________________________________________ www.bridgecraftmotorsport.co.uk |
Posted 12th Aug 2013 at 15:17
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welshpug!
Capt Pedantic Location: Bigend, Wales. Registered: 27 Mar 2007 Posts: 25,839 Status: Offline |
Post #41
that's not a maxi beam.its a 205 beam made by KRS. maxi V1 trailing arms V2 beam ________________________________________ need a part number? get on here - http://public.servicebox.peugeot.comBring on the Trumpets. |
Posted 12th Aug 2013 at 15:22
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allanallen
Seasoned Pro Location: Buxton Registered: 01 May 2007 Posts: 1,399 Status: Offline |
Post #42
Yeah I didn't think it was a maxi beam, couldn't actually identify the boot floor! :p gives you an idea how radically different the 'proper' stuff is though.________________________________________ www.bridgecraftmotorsport.co.uk |
Posted 12th Aug 2013 at 15:33
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welshpug!
Capt Pedantic Location: Bigend, Wales. Registered: 27 Mar 2007 Posts: 25,839 Status: Offline |
Post #43
yup, the V2 beam is quite a piece of engineering, probably two and a half times the diameter with proper cartridge bearings and afaik half length torsion bars.sure I have also seen a variant with a coilover damper as an additional spring. the first pic you found is a 106 maxi beam. ________________________________________ need a part number? get on here - http://public.servicebox.peugeot.comBring on the Trumpets. |
Posted 12th Aug 2013 at 15:54
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phillipm
Seasoned Pro Location: Rotherham Registered: 15 Oct 2006 Posts: 20,607 Status: Offline |
Post #44
I've got some of the torsion bars somewhere if I can find them for a picture, they have a little adjustable crows foot in the centre, we use the similar thing on the buggy as a rear bumpstop, just the 306 ones were a bit too large, and the rate was too high.________________________________________ - Bespoke rollcages/additions/adjustments. Half cages right up to complete custom spaceframes - MSA/FIA spec, CDS, ROPT, T45, etc - PM meEmail me! Custom-made polybushes available - need an odd size or fitment? - anything from batch work to one-off pieces. |
Posted 12th Aug 2013 at 16:17
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oldbrownshoe
Seasoned Pro Location: Holon Israel Registered: 08 Aug 2008 Posts: 1,795 Status: Offline |
Post #45
allanallen wrote: oldbrownshoe wrote: marco gti6 wrote: Great looking car The rear beam on the maxis where not standard if i remember right thou... Remember seeing pics of a French guy who builds them somewhere on the web. If you need any help with translations let me know Jon Foz Edit This does not look like a standard rear beam http://www.google.fr/search?q=train+arriere+306+maxi&bav=on.2,or.r_qf.&bvm=bv.50500085,d.Yms&biw=1366&bih=703&pdl=300&um=1&ie=UTF-8&hl=fr&tbm=isch&source=og&sa=N&tab=wi&ei=m1UGUuGeJ8zBswa-jYCIBw It's the same rear beam configuration as in the 206RC/SW which borrowed it's axel from the 306 MAXI "From the front of the car to the rear axle is things are mainly the same as the normal 206, except the slightly stiffer springs, shocks, and a Ø21 mm anti-roll bar on the front axle. The SW rear axle is significantly different from the normal 206: Two ties are added between the suspension arms and meet in the middle onto a cast alloy stay, wrapped around the axle body. It comes with Ø20 mm spring bars, a 22 mm anti-roll bar and stiffer shocks. This layout set-up was originally designed for the 306 Maxi by Peugeot Sport and is, next to the SW, now also used in the 206 RC/GTi180, which was introduced in France halfway into 2003. Because of the more volumetric rear axle, the routing of the exhaust around the rear axle is different from the 206, which ends (as said before), “invisible” pointing 30° downwards, up to 10 cm in front of the rear bumper. The emergency wheel still hangs in a cradle under the car and is a narrow, weight saver. The jack is the standard GTi scissors type." http://206gti.net/206sw-review A proper maxi beam is nothing like that. From memory its a completly Different beam tube, massive fabricated traing arms and an external ARB. I've got pictures somewhere, I'm sure welshpug will have some to hand though it should be similar structure, the diameter and thickness is not the main issue, " Two ties are added between the suspension arms and meet in the middle onto a cast alloy stay, wrapped around the axle body." ________________________________________ French military victories?Did you mean French military defeats? |
Posted 12th Aug 2013 at 16:23
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allanallen
Seasoned Pro Location: Buxton Registered: 01 May 2007 Posts: 1,399 Status: Offline |
Post #46
oldbrownshoe wrote: allanallen wrote: oldbrownshoe wrote: marco gti6 wrote: Great looking car The rear beam on the maxis where not standard if i remember right thou... Remember seeing pics of a French guy who builds them somewhere on the web. If you need any help with translations let me know Jon Foz Edit This does not look like a standard rear beam http://www.google.fr/search?q=train+arriere+306+maxi&bav=on.2,or.r_qf.&bvm=bv.50500085,d.Yms&biw=1366&bih=703&pdl=300&um=1&ie=UTF-8&hl=fr&tbm=isch&source=og&sa=N&tab=wi&ei=m1UGUuGeJ8zBswa-jYCIBw It's the same rear beam configuration as in the 206RC/SW which borrowed it's axel from the 306 MAXI "From the front of the car to the rear axle is things are mainly the same as the normal 206, except the slightly stiffer springs, shocks, and a Ø21 mm anti-roll bar on the front axle. The SW rear axle is significantly different from the normal 206: Two ties are added between the suspension arms and meet in the middle onto a cast alloy stay, wrapped around the axle body. It comes with Ø20 mm spring bars, a 22 mm anti-roll bar and stiffer shocks. This layout set-up was originally designed for the 306 Maxi by Peugeot Sport and is, next to the SW, now also used in the 206 RC/GTi180, which was introduced in France halfway into 2003. Because of the more volumetric rear axle, the routing of the exhaust around the rear axle is different from the 206, which ends (as said before), “invisible” pointing 30° downwards, up to 10 cm in front of the rear bumper. The emergency wheel still hangs in a cradle under the car and is a narrow, weight saver. The jack is the standard GTi scissors type." http://206gti.net/206sw-review A proper maxi beam is nothing like that. From memory its a completly Different beam tube, massive fabricated traing arms and an external ARB. I've got pictures somewhere, I'm sure welshpug will have some to hand though it should be similar structure, the diameter and thickness is not the main issue, " Two ties are added between the suspension arms and meet in the middle onto a cast alloy stay, wrapped around the axle body." Not on a maxi beam afaik ________________________________________ www.bridgecraftmotorsport.co.uk |
Posted 12th Aug 2013 at 16:27
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midlife
Seasoned Pro Location: Colne, Lancashire Registered: 13 Mar 2006 Posts: 7,544 Status: Offline |
Post #47
I think it would be nice to see a pic of the actual beam that's on it________________________________________ Get used to seeing the yellow one !!!Team 330™ Team "no front end or engine" Team "LIMITED EDITION" I live for the 306 sticker Team 0-60 in 6.44 & standing qtr in 14.808 @ 94.55mph all with std engine 203bhp Corolla T-Sport daily driver stealthier than Kwai Chang Caine |
Posted 12th Aug 2013 at 17:54
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oldbrownshoe
Seasoned Pro Location: Holon Israel Registered: 08 Aug 2008 Posts: 1,795 Status: Offline |
Post #48
you're turning into beam geeks, I think it's time to enjoy watching the car in motion. ________________________________________ French military victories?Did you mean French military defeats? |
Posted 12th Aug 2013 at 18:10
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midlife
Seasoned Pro Location: Colne, Lancashire Registered: 13 Mar 2006 Posts: 7,544 Status: Offline |
Post #49
oldbrownshoe wrote: http://youtu.be/Rqhjyws5QpI ________________________________________ Get used to seeing the yellow one !!!Team 330™ Team "no front end or engine" Team "LIMITED EDITION" I live for the 306 sticker Team 0-60 in 6.44 & standing qtr in 14.808 @ 94.55mph all with std engine 203bhp Corolla T-Sport daily driver stealthier than Kwai Chang Caine |
Posted 12th Aug 2013 at 18:15
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oldbrownshoe
Seasoned Pro Location: Holon Israel Registered: 08 Aug 2008 Posts: 1,795 Status: Offline |
Post #50
midlife wrote: Mine is longer. ________________________________________ French military victories?Did you mean French military defeats? |
Posted 12th Aug 2013 at 18:20
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