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where can i find a 1.6mm gasket?
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 JWP EFi
Turbo Legend!  Location: edinburgh Registered: 07 Mar 2010 Posts: 2,163 Status: Offline |
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 Posted 15th Jul 2013 at 22:52
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welshpug!
Capt Pedantic  Location: Bigend, Wales. Registered: 27 Mar 2007 Posts: 25,847 Status: Offline |
Post #2
scoobydoo for an XU 16v engine, but you should never need one that thick.________________________________________ need a part number? get on here - http://public.servicebox.peugeot.comBring on the Trumpets. |
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Posted 15th Jul 2013 at 22:55
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JWP EFi
Turbo Legend! Location: edinburgh Registered: 07 Mar 2010 Posts: 2,163 Status: Offline |
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scoobydoo??picking up head tomorrow, it has been skimmed flush to marker |
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Posted 15th Jul 2013 at 23:02
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welshpug!
Capt Pedantic Location: Bigend, Wales. Registered: 27 Mar 2007 Posts: 25,847 Status: Offline |
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measure it first  scoobydoo = not a clue. ________________________________________ need a part number? get on here - http://public.servicebox.peugeot.comBring on the Trumpets. |
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Posted 15th Jul 2013 at 23:22
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JWP EFi
Turbo Legend! Location: edinburgh Registered: 07 Mar 2010 Posts: 2,163 Status: Offline |
Post #5
assuming its skimmed flush, ie no marker left, what gasket can i get away with? |
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Posted 15th Jul 2013 at 23:24
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welshpug!
Capt Pedantic Location: Bigend, Wales. Registered: 27 Mar 2007 Posts: 25,847 Status: Offline |
Post #6
no idea how deep the marker is, but 0.2mm +/- 0.05mm is max, from 137mm, hence peugeot selling you a 1.4mm gasket, and a std 1.2mm.________________________________________ need a part number? get on here - http://public.servicebox.peugeot.comBring on the Trumpets. |
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Posted 15th Jul 2013 at 23:44
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bigbadbowen
Seasoned Pro  Location: Winchester Registered: 21 Nov 2003 Posts: 13,753 Status: Offline |
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We used a head saver once after having a head skimmed that was unknown ? I can try and find out some details ? Attaches to the block under the head gasket ? Came with some sort of glue to permanently attach to the block  Buggered if I can remember who we got it from but I can find out |
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Posted 15th Jul 2013 at 23:49
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JWP EFi
Turbo Legend! Location: edinburgh Registered: 07 Mar 2010 Posts: 2,163 Status: Offline |
Post #8
ive heard of that before. if it wasnt for this head recently having all new guides, valves and tapetts then i would just bin it and use one of my spares |
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Posted 16th Jul 2013 at 07:18
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stan_306gti6
Forum Admin Location: Kent Registered: 18 Jan 2004 Posts: 21,769 Status: Offline |
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Can you not deck the block instead?________________________________________ "Supercharged - 454.1bhp/317.5lb/ft"Peugeot 306 GTi-6 2000 (X), Moonstone  |
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Posted 16th Jul 2013 at 09:46
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welshpug!
Capt Pedantic Location: Bigend, Wales. Registered: 27 Mar 2007 Posts: 25,847 Status: Offline |
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you can, but that brings in the same issues.________________________________________ need a part number? get on here - http://public.servicebox.peugeot.comBring on the Trumpets. |
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Posted 16th Jul 2013 at 11:13
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gnrlee
Forum Admin Location: Leeds Registered: 20 Aug 2005 Posts: 8,883 Status: Offline |
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would another head, cheap maybe with known bent valvesrebuild this head with the good valve setup new stem seals and a seat regrind much more time consuming but wont that be more stable? ________________________________________ Proud Member of the ASTOR Owners Club |
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Posted 16th Jul 2013 at 12:39
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welshpug!
Capt Pedantic Location: Bigend, Wales. Registered: 27 Mar 2007 Posts: 25,847 Status: Offline |
Post #12
I doubt it will take any more time tbh.________________________________________ need a part number? get on here - http://public.servicebox.peugeot.comBring on the Trumpets. |
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Posted 16th Jul 2013 at 12:42
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JWP EFi
Turbo Legend! Location: edinburgh Registered: 07 Mar 2010 Posts: 2,163 Status: Offline |
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after a few hours searching and many phone calls to various suppliers/specialists i can only come up with this, i can easily get a Fibre gasket - 1.4, 1.45, 1.5. 1.55mm for the 8v turbo 406/xantia. Are those dimensions the fitted thickness?Believe it or not no one in the uk stocks a 1.5/1.6mm MLS gasket, according to PEC, Cometic are no longer producing them, another company said they could get me one but there is a 16 week back log!! Also apparantly i can use a standard MLS gasket with my head and NOT have valve to piston interferance although i was told the ECU can't/won't retard the ignition timing to compensate for the higher compression ratio. I thought the 6's brain would have been more than capable of dealing with this seeing as its self learning Anyone care to give me a second opinion? If none of this safely doable then i will have to scrap my freshly skimmed head and build a spare one up |
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Posted 16th Jul 2013 at 21:15
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welshpug!
Capt Pedantic Location: Bigend, Wales. Registered: 27 Mar 2007 Posts: 25,847 Status: Offline |
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yep, a fibre gasket will be fine, I've used a 1.35 and 1.45mm ones where the head had been skimmed right to its limit.you need to measure your head accurately. the ecu will pull the timing back, it does have a knock sensor. depending on the cams you have, and just how much it has been skimmed, I would not advise using a std gasket without valve cutouts, do not believe the others that say they're fine, if it was fine, Peugeot would not bother making a thicker gasket. ________________________________________ need a part number? get on here - http://public.servicebox.peugeot.comBring on the Trumpets. |
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Posted 16th Jul 2013 at 21:21
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superchargedblack1997gti6
Seasoned Pro  Location: guildford Registered: 15 Aug 2009 Posts: 2,376 Status: Offline |
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I'm sure Rich W can get them custom made mate?________________________________________ Super high boost Completed, destroyer of gearboxes and 160mph club |
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Posted 16th Jul 2013 at 21:23
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JWP EFi
Turbo Legend! Location: edinburgh Registered: 07 Mar 2010 Posts: 2,163 Status: Offline |
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T16 uses fibre gasket so based on that fact - good enough for meI was originally planning to fit my 270 regrinds but not much chance of that now is the fibre gasket's thickness the final fitted, ie, compressed dimension? |
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Posted 16th Jul 2013 at 21:23
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JWP EFi
Turbo Legend! Location: edinburgh Registered: 07 Mar 2010 Posts: 2,163 Status: Offline |
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superchargedblack1997gti6 wrote: I'm sure Rich W can get them custom made mate? I didn't think to contact Rich, but what iv'e learned today is that anything like this that needs to be 'custom made' isn't going to be a quick solution |
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Posted 16th Jul 2013 at 21:25
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welshpug!
Capt Pedantic Location: Bigend, Wales. Registered: 27 Mar 2007 Posts: 25,847 Status: Offline |
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all gaskets are listed by their fitted dimensions.________________________________________ need a part number? get on here - http://public.servicebox.peugeot.comBring on the Trumpets. |
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Posted 16th Jul 2013 at 21:27
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JWP EFi
Turbo Legend! Location: edinburgh Registered: 07 Mar 2010 Posts: 2,163 Status: Offline |
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mei, i don't suppose you have any corteco/payen part numbers that i can give to ECP so they can order me one up?i have 414351P 1.55mm corteco BY320 1.45mm Payen Don't know how accurate these are |
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Posted 16th Jul 2013 at 21:30
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welshpug!
Capt Pedantic Location: Bigend, Wales. Registered: 27 Mar 2007 Posts: 25,847 Status: Offline |
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not offhand, there is an online ecat.but have you measured your head yet? ________________________________________ need a part number? get on here - http://public.servicebox.peugeot.comBring on the Trumpets. |
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Posted 16th Jul 2013 at 21:40
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JWP EFi
Turbo Legend! Location: edinburgh Registered: 07 Mar 2010 Posts: 2,163 Status: Offline |
Post #21
i tried corteco's cat but it says 'engine not found'. I didn't have time today to collect head from engineers but it was bloody close to the marker so safe to say its now flush, hopfully not past it.Ive got a set of snap on digital verniers so once i pick it up i will measure it. I feel better now i know there are gaskets available in various thickness's |
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Posted 16th Jul 2013 at 21:46
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JWP EFi
Turbo Legend! Location: edinburgh Registered: 07 Mar 2010 Posts: 2,163 Status: Offline |
Post #22
Got my head back today, not as bad as i was expecting, managed to source a 1.45mm gasket via my mate at ECP, annoyingly it won't be here till friday  |
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Posted 17th Jul 2013 at 20:24
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welshpug!
Capt Pedantic Location: Bigend, Wales. Registered: 27 Mar 2007 Posts: 25,847 Status: Offline |
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so how tall is it now?________________________________________ need a part number? get on here - http://public.servicebox.peugeot.comBring on the Trumpets. |
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Posted 17th Jul 2013 at 20:30
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JWP EFi
Turbo Legend! Location: edinburgh Registered: 07 Mar 2010 Posts: 2,163 Status: Offline |
Post #24
according to engineers its 135.20 so with the 1.45mm gasket i will only be a tad over standard compression. Head gasket was a lucky pick, i handed ECP a selection of part numbers and all they can find is 1.1mm MLS and a fibre 1.45 |
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Posted 17th Jul 2013 at 20:41
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welshpug!
Capt Pedantic Location: Bigend, Wales. Registered: 27 Mar 2007 Posts: 25,847 Status: Offline |
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135??? 136.8 is the thinnest peugeot say ! ________________________________________ need a part number? get on here - http://public.servicebox.peugeot.comBring on the Trumpets. |
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Posted 17th Jul 2013 at 20:47
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