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A baffled sump for trackdays?Not sure if the car requires one or not?
Cheers
Drew
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 drewhughes
Regular  Location: Coalville Registered: 20 Jun 2013 Posts: 130 Status: Offline |
Not sure if the car requires one or not? Cheers Drew |
 Posted 28th Jun 2013 at 15:16
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welshpug!
Capt Pedantic  Location: Bigend, Wales. Registered: 27 Mar 2007 Posts: 25,839 Status: Offline |
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its got one.________________________________________ need a part number? get on here - http://public.servicebox.peugeot.comBring on the Trumpets. |
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Posted 28th Jun 2013 at 15:23
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daveyboy
aka Jim Davey  Location: Southampton Registered: 01 Oct 2007 Posts: 8,648 Status: Offline |
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Get an Accusump for peace of mind. Available them from Think Automotive, I'd say a 6 pint version would be ample. Worked on the Touring Cars so can't be bad.http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/ACCUSUMP-4-pint-race-rally-autograss-trackday-kitcar-sprint-motorsport-/170951978602?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item27cd882e6a It's only a 4 pinter, but would probably be fine, you wont be pulling massive G in a mildly modded 6. ________________________________________ R H Davey Welding Supplies. I sell new and used welding equipment in the Hampshire area. I take on welding jobs in the evenings, ally casting repairs are one of my specialities but I can weld pretty much anything. PM me with your requirements.Some of my services: (See my for sale threads) Engine mount/chassis repair Solid Beam Mounts BACK IN PRODUCTION Harness bars |
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Posted 28th Jun 2013 at 15:55
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stan_306gti6
Forum Admin Location: Kent Registered: 18 Jan 2004 Posts: 21,768 Status: Offline |
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I don't require an aftermarket one in my car and that's putting out over 450bhp and has been perfectly fine on the track.  ________________________________________ "Supercharged - 454.1bhp/317.5lb/ft"Peugeot 306 GTi-6 2000 (X), Moonstone  |
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Posted 28th Jun 2013 at 16:11
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daveyboy
aka Jim Davey Location: Southampton Registered: 01 Oct 2007 Posts: 8,648 Status: Offline |
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Do you have an oil pressure gauge you can see when cornering? I bet you it drops dangerously low on long corners and braking zones.________________________________________ R H Davey Welding Supplies. I sell new and used welding equipment in the Hampshire area. I take on welding jobs in the evenings, ally casting repairs are one of my specialities but I can weld pretty much anything. PM me with your requirements.Some of my services: (See my for sale threads) Engine mount/chassis repair Solid Beam Mounts BACK IN PRODUCTION Harness bars |
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Posted 28th Jun 2013 at 16:16
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welshpug!
Capt Pedantic Location: Bigend, Wales. Registered: 27 Mar 2007 Posts: 25,839 Status: Offline |
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#Standoesntdrivethecar#brokenrecord #s**ttyres #nogrip #nooilissues ________________________________________ need a part number? get on here - http://public.servicebox.peugeot.comBring on the Trumpets. |
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Posted 28th Jun 2013 at 16:23
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stan_306gti6
Forum Admin Location: Kent Registered: 18 Jan 2004 Posts: 21,768 Status: Offline |
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daveyboy wrote: Do you have an oil pressure gauge you can see when cornering? I bet you it drops dangerously low on long corners and braking zones. Yes, I do and no it doesn't drop like you mention. I was also surprised by this. ________________________________________ "Supercharged - 454.1bhp/317.5lb/ft"Peugeot 306 GTi-6 2000 (X), Moonstone |
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Posted 28th Jun 2013 at 17:27
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stan_306gti6
Forum Admin Location: Kent Registered: 18 Jan 2004 Posts: 21,768 Status: Offline |
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welshpug! wrote: #Standoesntdrivethecar #brokenrecord #s**ttyres #nogrip #nooilissues #didbrandshatchinapril #r888s #plentyofgrip #nooilissues #buggeroff  ________________________________________ "Supercharged - 454.1bhp/317.5lb/ft"Peugeot 306 GTi-6 2000 (X), Moonstone |
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Posted 28th Jun 2013 at 17:30
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drewhughes
Regular Location: Coalville Registered: 20 Jun 2013 Posts: 130 Status: Offline |
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Hmmm that accusump looks interestingare there no off the shelf baffled sump for the 6's? |
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Posted 28th Jun 2013 at 20:39
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welshpug!
Capt Pedantic Location: Bigend, Wales. Registered: 27 Mar 2007 Posts: 25,839 Status: Offline |
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there is, peugeot sport France do one, but its baffled as standard, so you gotta be running quite a lot of grip to need one I reckon.________________________________________ need a part number? get on here - http://public.servicebox.peugeot.comBring on the Trumpets. |
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Posted 28th Jun 2013 at 20:42
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adam b
Seasoned Pro  Location: The Nam Registered: 24 Jan 2006 Posts: 12,828 Status: Offline |
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Never heard it to be an issue on here - you'd have thought someone would have said if it had happened!________________________________________ Nothing to see here |
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Posted 28th Jun 2013 at 21:00
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jammapic
Senior User  Location: Manchester Registered: 11 Jun 2010 Posts: 778 Status: Offline |
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I've done a bunch of track days in mine, on a pretty good suspension setup with sticky tyres on a warm track and I've never run into any issues. That said, on the old dturbo with the same suspension, same tyres but no baffled sump as standard, the oil pressure would drop by a couple of bar on a corner like Gerard's at mallory park. JP ________________________________________ HDI Engine Tuning / Remapping Services - https://www.facebook.com/dervtech306 GTi-6 Track Car - 200+ hp all N/A! 306 DTurbo Track beasty - 209.9hp - RIP |
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Posted 29th Jun 2013 at 13:09
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buzzbrightyear
Seasoned Pro  Location: hiding all receipts for car Registered: 09 Jul 2008 Posts: 11,901 Status: Offline |
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would it not be easy enough to make the standard one more baffled to an engineer with the right tools/machines?that accusump, it says manual operation, does that mean turn it on for the duration of the track day? ________________________________________ andrew315rawson@live.co.ukMoonstone phase 7 gti6 My Project thread: http://www.306gti6.com/forum/showthread.php?id=119992&page=1 |
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Posted 29th Jun 2013 at 13:34
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cully
Seasoned Pro  Location: Cullompton Registered: 12 Jun 2013 Posts: 1,093 Status: Offline |
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buzzbrightyear wrote: would it not be easy enough to make the standard one more baffled to an engineer with the right tools/machines? that accusump, it says manual operation, does that mean turn it on for the duration of the track day? it looks like it works the same way as a central heating expansion vesel it has a precharged bladder which forces the oil out when the pumps not supplying http://www.accusump.com/accusump_tech.html |
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Posted 29th Jun 2013 at 13:43
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beez_neez_gt
Seasoned Pro  Location: @ de limit of adhesion ! Registered: 14 Oct 2008 Posts: 2,916 Status: Offline |
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stan_306gti6 wrote: welshpug! wrote: #Standoesntdrivethecar #brokenrecord #s**ttyres #nogrip #nooilissues #didbrandshatchinapril #r888s #plentyofgrip #nooilissues #buggeroff  ________________________________________ Pug fee`ver,Pick a Bogey, buy a Pug. Black 306 GTI 6 Standard, was 60k mileage, bargain!! Clicky: [url =http://www.306gti6.com]click here[/url] remove the space between [url & = |
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Posted 29th Jun 2013 at 13:50
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welshpug!
Capt Pedantic Location: Bigend, Wales. Registered: 27 Mar 2007 Posts: 25,839 Status: Offline |
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http://www.peugeotsport-store.com/product.php?id_product=4274 ________________________________________ need a part number? get on here - http://public.servicebox.peugeot.comBring on the Trumpets. |
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Posted 29th Jun 2013 at 13:53
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eliotrw
Seasoned Pro  Location: Southwark Registered: 18 Jul 2010 Posts: 4,864 Status: Offline |
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A pinch at 320 euros on its own :O At that cost i'd go dry sump I think ________________________________________ Ex- Phase 3 China GTi-6 T-Reg |
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Posted 29th Jun 2013 at 17:54
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welshpug!
Capt Pedantic Location: Bigend, Wales. Registered: 27 Mar 2007 Posts: 25,839 Status: Offline |
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yeah, a bargain at a grand...________________________________________ need a part number? get on here - http://public.servicebox.peugeot.comBring on the Trumpets. |
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Posted 29th Jun 2013 at 17:58
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daveyboy
aka Jim Davey Location: Southampton Registered: 01 Oct 2007 Posts: 8,648 Status: Offline |
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And the rest, an accusump is cheap insurance I reckon. And no, you shut the valve before you turn of the ignition, otherwise it pumps 4-6 pints of oil back into the sump making it impossible to accurately check your oil level. They do an electric valve too but I prefer the reliability of a manual gate valve.________________________________________ R H Davey Welding Supplies. I sell new and used welding equipment in the Hampshire area. I take on welding jobs in the evenings, ally casting repairs are one of my specialities but I can weld pretty much anything. PM me with your requirements.Some of my services: (See my for sale threads) Engine mount/chassis repair Solid Beam Mounts BACK IN PRODUCTION Harness bars |
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Posted 29th Jun 2013 at 18:04
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phillipm
Seasoned Pro  Location: Rotherham Registered: 15 Oct 2006 Posts: 20,607 Status: Offline |
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The only issue with the accusump is if it's a trackdays/road car, you'll have to set the discharge pressure very low due to the low idle pressure, so it won't flow much oil under starvation situations, it's a way of proving some insurance, but it's not bulletproof by a long way.________________________________________ - Bespoke rollcages/additions/adjustments. Half cages right up to complete custom spaceframes - MSA/FIA spec, CDS, ROPT, T45, etc - PM meEmail me! Custom-made polybushes available - need an odd size or fitment? - anything from batch work to one-off pieces. |
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Posted 29th Jun 2013 at 18:09
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buzzbrightyear
Seasoned Pro Location: hiding all receipts for car Registered: 09 Jul 2008 Posts: 11,901 Status: Offline |
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welshpug! wrote: I was looking at that earlier and it baffled me, i thought it looked like a standard sump, Is it the other parts on the diagram that's fitted inside to make it more baffled? ________________________________________ andrew315rawson@live.co.ukMoonstone phase 7 gti6 My Project thread: http://www.306gti6.com/forum/showthread.php?id=119992&page=1 |
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Posted 29th Jun 2013 at 18:35
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daveyboy
aka Jim Davey Location: Southampton Registered: 01 Oct 2007 Posts: 8,648 Status: Offline |
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phillipm wrote: The only issue with the accusump is if it's a trackdays/road car, you'll have to set the discharge pressure very low due to the low idle pressure, so it won't flow much oil under starvation situations, it's a way of proving some insurance, but it's not bulletproof by a long way. Not at all, you leave it pressurised up during normal driving, just open the valve for when things get spicy. ________________________________________ R H Davey Welding Supplies. I sell new and used welding equipment in the Hampshire area. I take on welding jobs in the evenings, ally casting repairs are one of my specialities but I can weld pretty much anything. PM me with your requirements.Some of my services: (See my for sale threads) Engine mount/chassis repair Solid Beam Mounts BACK IN PRODUCTION Harness bars |
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Posted 29th Jun 2013 at 20:47
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