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 stan_306gti6
Forum Admin Location: Kent Registered: 18 Jan 2004 Posts: 21,768 Status: Offline |
Post #26
 I've been doing servicing and repairs on these cars for the last nine years Matt... I've lost count of the amount of belts I've changed.  ________________________________________ "Supercharged - 454.1bhp/317.5lb/ft"Peugeot 306 GTi-6 2000 (X), Moonstone  |
 Posted 19th Jul 2013 at 09:45
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mattgti6phase2
Seasoned Pro  Location: inside my 6 abusing the tarmac!! Registered: 16 Jul 2010 Posts: 2,371 Status: Offline |
Post #27
I never would have known. Bedford isn't a million miles from me either  ________________________________________ Team Nile 6 Team: 40.2 MPG 5 x a 306 owner! currently abusing type r's in a town near you ™  I truely live for the 306 ® Build date: 29th October 1997 Wednesday's car midweek madness  |
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Posted 19th Jul 2013 at 09:53
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stan_306gti6
Forum Admin Location: Kent Registered: 18 Jan 2004 Posts: 21,768 Status: Offline |
Post #28
mattgti6phase2 wrote: I never would have known. Bedford isn't a million miles from me either That's why I offered. ________________________________________ "Supercharged - 454.1bhp/317.5lb/ft"Peugeot 306 GTi-6 2000 (X), Moonstone |
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Posted 19th Jul 2013 at 09:56
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mattgti6phase2
Seasoned Pro Location: inside my 6 abusing the tarmac!! Registered: 16 Jul 2010 Posts: 2,371 Status: Offline |
Post #29
Ok cool. I very much appreciate it. I'll get in touch with pug and let you know what the score is. ________________________________________ Team Nile 6Team: 40.2 MPG 5 x a 306 owner! currently abusing type r's in a town near you ™ I truely live for the 306 ® Build date: 29th October 1997 Wednesday's car midweek madness |
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Posted 19th Jul 2013 at 10:26
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eliotrw
Seasoned Pro  Location: Southwark Registered: 18 Jul 2010 Posts: 4,864 Status: Offline |
Post #30
dangti6 wrote: mattgti6phase2 wrote: It's a brand new tensioner fitted by CG. It's confusing the s**t out of me! I WANT TO SET FIRE TO IT!!!!  I wondered how long it would take! ________________________________________ Ex- Phase 3 China GTi-6 T-Reg |
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Posted 19th Jul 2013 at 10:57
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mattgti6phase2
Seasoned Pro Location: inside my 6 abusing the tarmac!! Registered: 16 Jul 2010 Posts: 2,371 Status: Offline |
Post #31
I run the non AC set up, the adjustable tensioner is brand new so i will need to replace the belt guide tensioner. Are these the same between the 6/rallye or is it different? I have part number 575133?? Many thanks. ________________________________________ Team Nile 6Team: 40.2 MPG 5 x a 306 owner! currently abusing type r's in a town near you ™ I truely live for the 306 ® Build date: 29th October 1997 Wednesday's car midweek madness |
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Posted 19th Jul 2013 at 11:20
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ryangti6
Seasoned Pro  Location: Pontypool Registered: 01 Sep 2006 Posts: 1,839 Status: Offline |
Post #32
Have you tried loosening it?I've seen a good few cars do exactly what you are saying and It's usually because someone has over tensioned the belt, It's definitely worth trying before you spend money that may be a waste. If it was a bearing they tend to do it constant in my experience, In your case the noise is probably going as the belt gets warm and allows it to stretch. Bit off topic but your car looked lovly at pugfest, I was going to come and chat but couldn't think who you were at the time and was about to go on a hill run. ________________________________________ Ryan |
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Posted 19th Jul 2013 at 12:03
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mattgti6phase2
Seasoned Pro Location: inside my 6 abusing the tarmac!! Registered: 16 Jul 2010 Posts: 2,371 Status: Offline |
Post #33
I have let the tension of slightly. Maybe I'll let it off even more so? Ah thanks bud really appreciate that comment. It's a bloody hobby keeping it looking clean. I'm just annoyed with ATM what with the cambelt whirring slightly and now the aux belt. So how tight do you think i should do it bud? ________________________________________ Team Nile 6Team: 40.2 MPG 5 x a 306 owner! currently abusing type r's in a town near you ™ I truely live for the 306 ® Build date: 29th October 1997 Wednesday's car midweek madness |
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Posted 19th Jul 2013 at 12:25
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stan_306gti6
Forum Admin Location: Kent Registered: 18 Jan 2004 Posts: 21,768 Status: Offline |
Post #34
No more than a 90 degree turn on the longest stretch Matt.  ________________________________________ "Supercharged - 454.1bhp/317.5lb/ft"Peugeot 306 GTi-6 2000 (X), Moonstone |
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Posted 19th Jul 2013 at 12:44
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ryangti6
Seasoned Pro Location: Pontypool Registered: 01 Sep 2006 Posts: 1,839 Status: Offline |
Post #35
Well your hard work is worth it as that's easily the nicest Nile I've seen.You want the belt so it'll twist to roughly 90 fairly easily but need forcing to go any further. Personally I'd slacken it right off and start again, adjust it untill you get to the 90 degree twist and see how that is. Remember before you twist check the belt to rotate the engine a few turns or you won't get a real idea of the tension. ________________________________________ Ryan |
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Posted 19th Jul 2013 at 13:52
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mattgti6phase2
Seasoned Pro Location: inside my 6 abusing the tarmac!! Registered: 16 Jul 2010 Posts: 2,371 Status: Offline |
Post #36
ryangti6 wrote: Well your hard work is worth it as that's easily the nicest Nile I've seen. You want the belt so it'll twist to roughly 90 fairly easily but need forcing to go any further. Personally I'd slacken it right off and start again, adjust it untill you get to the 90 degree twist and see how that is. Remember before you twist check the belt to rotate the engine a few turns or you won't get a real idea of the tension. Many thanks sir. It's nice when someone appreciates hard work and effort. The GF just says I'm a weirdo because I'm always cleaning it I've taken your advice and slackened the belt, and now i can turn it a perfect 90 degrees and the f**king whistle is still there!  ________________________________________ Team Nile 6Team: 40.2 MPG 5 x a 306 owner! currently abusing type r's in a town near you ™ I truely live for the 306 ® Build date: 29th October 1997 Wednesday's car midweek madness |
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Posted 20th Jul 2013 at 21:55
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stan_306gti6
Forum Admin Location: Kent Registered: 18 Jan 2004 Posts: 21,768 Status: Offline |
Post #37
Definitely sounds like a bearing Matt, get the parts and we'll sort it.  ________________________________________ "Supercharged - 454.1bhp/317.5lb/ft"Peugeot 306 GTi-6 2000 (X), Moonstone |
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Posted 20th Jul 2013 at 23:48
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Stuwee
Senior User  Location: st albans Registered: 27 Jun 2007 Posts: 739 Status: Offline |
Post #38
As i said the other day, spray some wd40 in the center of the tensioner( bearing part).It will not penertrate the bearing completely but it might quiet down the noise thus confirming the fault. Probs just age related, but the tensioner and guides can also fail if the belt is over tightened on the non ac set ups. My auto tensioner squeaks for the first ten minutes of running, but i do not care ________________________________________ Ph1 Cossack 6 |
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Posted 21st Jul 2013 at 08:30
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mattgti6phase2
Seasoned Pro Location: inside my 6 abusing the tarmac!! Registered: 16 Jul 2010 Posts: 2,371 Status: Offline |
Post #39
I've tried WD40 and it makes no difference at all bro. ________________________________________ Team Nile 6Team: 40.2 MPG 5 x a 306 owner! currently abusing type r's in a town near you ™ I truely live for the 306 ® Build date: 29th October 1997 Wednesday's car midweek madness |
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Posted 21st Jul 2013 at 11:21
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aaron6
Seasoned Pro  Location: On the sofa in maidstone Registered: 16 May 2006 Posts: 5,840 Status: Offline |
Post #40
Do you have an alloy crank pully? Mine kept whistling so I changed loads of bits. Turned out the belt was not sitting on the "v" portion of the belt. So I took 1mm off the diameter of the pulley on my lathe and its gone. ________________________________________ See the sheer power and might of the lesser known burrowing owl. |
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Posted 21st Jul 2013 at 15:09
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mattgti6phase2
Seasoned Pro Location: inside my 6 abusing the tarmac!! Registered: 16 Jul 2010 Posts: 2,371 Status: Offline |
Post #41
I do have the alloy crank pulley. But the noise was present before the crank pulley was fitted. The noise has only occurred over the last couple of months  ________________________________________ Team Nile 6Team: 40.2 MPG 5 x a 306 owner! currently abusing type r's in a town near you ™ I truely live for the 306 ® Build date: 29th October 1997 Wednesday's car midweek madness |
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Posted 21st Jul 2013 at 15:38
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dangti6
aka JKshooter  Location: Taunton, Somerset Registered: 15 Jun 2006 Posts: 10,305 Status: Offline |
Post #42
Stan's offering to help out. Buy the parts and let him work his magic - no more worrying. ________________________________________  |
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Posted 21st Jul 2013 at 15:45
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mattgti6phase2
Seasoned Pro Location: inside my 6 abusing the tarmac!! Registered: 16 Jul 2010 Posts: 2,371 Status: Offline |
Post #43
dangti6 wrote: Stan's offering to help out. Buy the parts and let him work his magic - no more worrying. I know I'm not worried just bored lol! The idler I can change myself, I can do everything on these cars apart from the cambelt because that scares me so I'd rather someone else do it such as Stan for example. Just annoying when i was told then tension is fine when it was fitted although i know it's not. ________________________________________ Team Nile 6Team: 40.2 MPG 5 x a 306 owner! currently abusing type r's in a town near you ™ I truely live for the 306 ® Build date: 29th October 1997 Wednesday's car midweek madness |
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Posted 21st Jul 2013 at 16:59
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mattgti6phase2
Seasoned Pro Location: inside my 6 abusing the tarmac!! Registered: 16 Jul 2010 Posts: 2,371 Status: Offline |
Post #44
Hi guys just bumping this thread before i crash the 6 in to the nearest lamppost. As per whistling posts the f**king car still whistles!!!!So just to update you all the f**ked tensioner was replaced after having to have an argument with the original fitter. It was completely mullered having only covered 5k. This in turn killed the idler pulley as well which i replaced at my own cost. So i personally fitted a new aux belt when i replaced the tensioners and would you believe it the whistling is still present so I'm now completely confused. Can anyone help? Many thanks Matt. ________________________________________ Team Nile 6Team: 40.2 MPG 5 x a 306 owner! currently abusing type r's in a town near you ™ I truely live for the 306 ® Build date: 29th October 1997 Wednesday's car midweek madness |
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Posted 13th Aug 2013 at 23:51
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sharvey44
Senior User  Location: East London Registered: 22 Feb 2010 Posts: 795 Status: Offline |
Post #45
If any man can, Stan can.________________________________________ Ph2.5 Nile - Slowly trying to de-East London it and restore to former glory...Built on the 9 Febuary 1999 - Tuesday's car..is full of pace? Currently looking slightly molested due to some c*nt trying to get into it.. According to the forum Social Worker, because I work in IT, I am socially retarted.. |
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Posted 14th Aug 2013 at 05:43
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mattgti6phase2
Seasoned Pro Location: inside my 6 abusing the tarmac!! Registered: 16 Jul 2010 Posts: 2,371 Status: Offline |
Post #46
So finally got round to replacing the cam belt cover and guess what the whistle is still present. I'm seriously getting f**ked off now. I'm literally running out of ideas!!!, could a water pump create this noise? An alternator or even a power steering pump? Please help guys many thanks Matt. ________________________________________ Team Nile 6Team: 40.2 MPG 5 x a 306 owner! currently abusing type r's in a town near you ™ I truely live for the 306 ® Build date: 29th October 1997 Wednesday's car midweek madness |
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Posted 12th Sep 2013 at 22:03
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beez_neez_gt
Seasoned Pro  Location: @ de limit of adhesion ! Registered: 14 Oct 2008 Posts: 2,916 Status: Offline |
Post #47
It could be the alternator bearing ?________________________________________ Pug fee`ver,Pick a Bogey, buy a Pug. Black 306 GTI 6 Standard, was 60k mileage, bargain!! Clicky: [url =http://www.306gti6.com]click here[/url] remove the space between [url & = |
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Posted 12th Sep 2013 at 22:23
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mattgti6phase2
Seasoned Pro Location: inside my 6 abusing the tarmac!! Registered: 16 Jul 2010 Posts: 2,371 Status: Offline |
Post #48
Would it be constant though? Or could it be for 10 mins at a time as with my case? ________________________________________ Team Nile 6Team: 40.2 MPG 5 x a 306 owner! currently abusing type r's in a town near you ™ I truely live for the 306 ® Build date: 29th October 1997 Wednesday's car midweek madness |
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Posted 12th Sep 2013 at 23:35
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beez_neez_gt
Seasoned Pro Location: @ de limit of adhesion ! Registered: 14 Oct 2008 Posts: 2,916 Status: Offline |
Post #49
I cant say iv never had this problem. You could get one of them long screwdrivers place it on the ALT with your ear on the end and listen to see if the sound is coming from it ?________________________________________ Pug fee`ver,Pick a Bogey, buy a Pug. Black 306 GTI 6 Standard, was 60k mileage, bargain!! Clicky: [url =http://www.306gti6.com]click here[/url] remove the space between [url & = |
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Posted 13th Sep 2013 at 01:18
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mattgti6phase2
Seasoned Pro Location: inside my 6 abusing the tarmac!! Registered: 16 Jul 2010 Posts: 2,371 Status: Offline |
Post #50
The main problem with this noise it that it only occurs when in motion. I've never had a noise of any sort that i haven't been able to find.This is beyond the joke now though. Replaced parts include, New cambelt Replacement cambelt cover Manual tensioner Idler pulley Aux belt. It's not getting any worse it's the same as the day it started making the noise. ________________________________________ Team Nile 6Team: 40.2 MPG 5 x a 306 owner! currently abusing type r's in a town near you ™ I truely live for the 306 ® Build date: 29th October 1997 Wednesday's car midweek madness |
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Posted 13th Sep 2013 at 10:34
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