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| Author | Subject: Phase 1 Oil pressure guage - HELP! |
 BigTallPaul
Junior User  Location: Leicester Registered: 02 Jun 2013 Posts: 90 Status: Offline |
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Hi guys, I'm a newbie having just joined after buying a track ready Phase 1 306GTi6.I can't get the Oil Pressure guage to move more than a couple of millimeters from rest. Turn on ignition it moves about 3mm. Starting the engine, revving it etc doesn't make it move any further. I'm not sure what to check first, any ideas ? All help appreciated. Paul |
 Posted 17th Jun 2013 at 15:37
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ian7675
Techno Viking  Location: Gloucestershire Registered: 12 Oct 2007 Posts: 6,068 Status: Offline |
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Does it go up when you turn it on and then drops down again?________________________________________ Less than 24 hours to go! |
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Posted 17th Jun 2013 at 15:41
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24seven
Seasoned Pro  Location: Derby Registered: 05 Oct 2005 Posts: 6,221 Status: Offline |
Post #3
Have you tried replacing the sensor? ________________________________________ Ph1 306 GTi 6 | RX8 231 S1 | YBR 125 Cafe Racer | MT-03 660 |
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Posted 17th Jun 2013 at 15:41
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BigTallPaul
Junior User Location: Leicester Registered: 02 Jun 2013 Posts: 90 Status: Offline |
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ian7675 wrote: Does it go up when you turn it on and then drops down again? Yes, I think so. Can check tomorrow, why ? |
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Posted 17th Jun 2013 at 15:43
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BigTallPaul
Junior User Location: Leicester Registered: 02 Jun 2013 Posts: 90 Status: Offline |
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24seven wrote: Have you tried replacing the sensor? Not yet, do you think that will solve it ? Paul |
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Posted 17th Jun 2013 at 15:43
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24seven
Seasoned Pro Location: Derby Registered: 05 Oct 2005 Posts: 6,221 Status: Offline |
Post #6
As likely as anything I'd imagine. If the gauge is going up and dropping down, it sounds like it's not getting the signal from the sensor when running to me. ________________________________________ Ph1 306 GTi 6 | RX8 231 S1 | YBR 125 Cafe Racer | MT-03 660 |
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Posted 17th Jun 2013 at 16:00
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ian7675
Techno Viking Location: Gloucestershire Registered: 12 Oct 2007 Posts: 6,068 Status: Offline |
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Sorry, I'm getting muddled up I think. I thought the oil pressure guage was also the engine temperature gauge and only showed you the pressure briefly on start up and then returned to the start to show you the engine warming up etc. it has been a while since I owned a 6.________________________________________ Less than 24 hours to go! |
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Posted 17th Jun 2013 at 16:07
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stan_306gti6
Forum Admin Location: Kent Registered: 18 Jan 2004 Posts: 21,768 Status: Offline |
Post #8
Ian - Phase 1's have oil pressure gauges, Phase 2 onwards had oil level and temperature gauges.  ________________________________________ "Supercharged - 454.1bhp/317.5lb/ft"Peugeot 306 GTi-6 2000 (X), Moonstone  |
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Posted 17th Jun 2013 at 16:09
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24seven
Seasoned Pro Location: Derby Registered: 05 Oct 2005 Posts: 6,221 Status: Offline |
Post #9
On a P1 there's a dedicated oil pressure gauge in the middle of the tacho. ________________________________________ Ph1 306 GTi 6 | RX8 231 S1 | YBR 125 Cafe Racer | MT-03 660 |
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Posted 17th Jun 2013 at 16:09
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ian7675
Techno Viking Location: Gloucestershire Registered: 12 Oct 2007 Posts: 6,068 Status: Offline |
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Ah fair one  Stan - thank you! ________________________________________ Less than 24 hours to go! |
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Posted 17th Jun 2013 at 16:45
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stan_306gti6
Forum Admin Location: Kent Registered: 18 Jan 2004 Posts: 21,768 Status: Offline |
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No worries mate.  ________________________________________ "Supercharged - 454.1bhp/317.5lb/ft"Peugeot 306 GTi-6 2000 (X), Moonstone |
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Posted 17th Jun 2013 at 16:48
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stan_306gti6
Forum Admin Location: Kent Registered: 18 Jan 2004 Posts: 21,768 Status: Offline |
Post #12
Moved to Engines. ________________________________________ "Supercharged - 454.1bhp/317.5lb/ft"Peugeot 306 GTi-6 2000 (X), Moonstone |
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Posted 17th Jun 2013 at 16:49
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welshpug!
Capt Pedantic  Location: Bigend, Wales. Registered: 27 Mar 2007 Posts: 25,838 Status: Offline |
Post #13
Pull the plug off and earth it to the block, if the gauge is working it will ping the needle to the top, if it works, then replace the sender, if it doesn't, then there's a wiring fault.Don't forget to wait for it to finish checking the oil level once you turn the ignition on. ________________________________________ need a part number? get on here - http://public.servicebox.peugeot.comBring on the Trumpets. |
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Posted 17th Jun 2013 at 18:07
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24seven
Seasoned Pro Location: Derby Registered: 05 Oct 2005 Posts: 6,221 Status: Offline |
Post #14
welshpug! wrote: Pull the plug off and earth it to the block, if the gauge is working it will ping the needle to the top, if it works, then replace the sender, if it doesn't, then there's a wiring fault. Don't forget to wait for it to finish checking the oil level once you turn the ignition on. It shows the oil level with just the ignition on? I thought it just went to about half way on the gauge randomly (not joking). On the dipstick my car is slightly overfilled but on the 2nd click that gauge only goes about half way up until the engine starts. ________________________________________ Ph1 306 GTi 6 | RX8 231 S1 | YBR 125 Cafe Racer | MT-03 660 |
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Posted 17th Jun 2013 at 18:19
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BigTallPaul
Junior User Location: Leicester Registered: 02 Jun 2013 Posts: 90 Status: Offline |
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welshpug! wrote: Pull the plug off and earth it to the block, if the gauge is working it will ping the needle to the top, if it works, then replace the sender, if it doesn't, then there's a wiring fault. Don't forget to wait for it to finish checking the oil level once you turn the ignition on. Thanks! Thats really useful info. Will try that and report back. Anyone know how much a new sender costs ? Thanks again, Paul |
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Posted 17th Jun 2013 at 19:54
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ryangti6
Seasoned Pro  Location: Pontypool Registered: 01 Sep 2006 Posts: 1,839 Status: Offline |
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24seven wrote: welshpug! wrote: Pull the plug off and earth it to the block, if the gauge is working it will ping the needle to the top, if it works, then replace the sender, if it doesn't, then there's a wiring fault. Don't forget to wait for it to finish checking the oil level once you turn the ignition on. It shows the oil level with just the ignition on? I thought it just went to about half way on the gauge randomly (not joking). On the dipstick my car is slightly overfilled but on the 2nd click that gauge only goes about half way up until the engine starts. Yeah it should light up above the pressure notches and the needle will go up to indicate oil level on the bit that has illuminated. ________________________________________ Ryan |
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Posted 17th Jun 2013 at 20:45
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stan_306gti6
Forum Admin Location: Kent Registered: 18 Jan 2004 Posts: 21,768 Status: Offline |
Post #17
You're looking around £20 or so for a new sender if that is the issue. ________________________________________ "Supercharged - 454.1bhp/317.5lb/ft"Peugeot 306 GTi-6 2000 (X), Moonstone |
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Posted 17th Jun 2013 at 21:05
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welshpug!
Capt Pedantic Location: Bigend, Wales. Registered: 27 Mar 2007 Posts: 25,838 Status: Offline |
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stan_306gti6 wrote: You're looking around £20 or so for a new sender if that is the issue. come on Stan you should know better than to randomly guess the price, they're on servicebox at £90 plus vat  Also marked NFP so you might need to go hunting for stock somewhere at a dealer, ask a dealer to do a search on their systems, that's if you are bothered about using an used one, personally I woildnt be as they dont tend to fail very often in my experience. ________________________________________ need a part number? get on here - http://public.servicebox.peugeot.comBring on the Trumpets. |
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Posted 17th Jun 2013 at 21:21
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stan_306gti6
Forum Admin Location: Kent Registered: 18 Jan 2004 Posts: 21,768 Status: Offline |
Post #19
 £90 plus VAT...that's ridiculous, it's only a little white round sensor! If I was you, I'd prove that was the culprit and then have a hunt down at your local scrappy. ________________________________________ "Supercharged - 454.1bhp/317.5lb/ft"Peugeot 306 GTi-6 2000 (X), Moonstone |
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Posted 17th Jun 2013 at 22:21
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welshpug!
Capt Pedantic Location: Bigend, Wales. Registered: 27 Mar 2007 Posts: 25,838 Status: Offline |
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trouble is they're only found on phase1 6's, s16's, and XSi's, and citroen equivalents, which are even rarer.________________________________________ need a part number? get on here - http://public.servicebox.peugeot.comBring on the Trumpets. |
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Posted 17th Jun 2013 at 22:30
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24seven
Seasoned Pro Location: Derby Registered: 05 Oct 2005 Posts: 6,221 Status: Offline |
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I have a spare oil pressure sensor and adaptor that I bought to go on the VTS engine in my 309, but didn't get round to fitting before the thing was stolen. Is there a way I can test to see if it works while off the car? ________________________________________ Ph1 306 GTi 6 | RX8 231 S1 | YBR 125 Cafe Racer | MT-03 660 |
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Posted 17th Jun 2013 at 22:41
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24seven
Seasoned Pro Location: Derby Registered: 05 Oct 2005 Posts: 6,221 Status: Offline |
Post #22
Is this the right one, minus the adapter? (Clickable thumbnail) ________________________________________ Ph1 306 GTi 6 | RX8 231 S1 | YBR 125 Cafe Racer | MT-03 660 |
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Posted 17th Jun 2013 at 22:47
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BigTallPaul
Junior User Location: Leicester Registered: 02 Jun 2013 Posts: 90 Status: Offline |
Post #23
Wow, Thanks all for the input. I have to say the responses I have received have been very helpful and quick. I will test the sender tomorrow if time allows and report back. As it happens I have already been offered a 2nd hand sender but wasn't sure if that was the problem. Thanks again, Paul |
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Posted 17th Jun 2013 at 22:48
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welshpug!
Capt Pedantic Location: Bigend, Wales. Registered: 27 Mar 2007 Posts: 25,838 Status: Offline |
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multimeter and a pump  ________________________________________ need a part number? get on here - http://public.servicebox.peugeot.comBring on the Trumpets. |
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Posted 17th Jun 2013 at 22:49
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