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pete_rallye

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Having purchased some fibreglass door skins from mr.fordygti, it has dawned on me that I have no idea how to seperate the skins from the door frame so the frames can be reused.Has anyone done this before and can offer some advice, do's/dont's etc. I'm currently assuming its spot welded and bonded?

Also, recommendations for summin good to bond the frames back onto the skins with?

Ta.

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Posted 29th May 2013 at 19:22
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daveyboy

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Sand away all the edges, and drill out the spot welds with a spot weld drill. It will take you a while...

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Posted 29th May 2013 at 19:25
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pete_rallye

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Cheers, I'll get cracking...

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Posted 29th May 2013 at 19:29
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2 part resin, bloody strong stuff, um sure even tiger seal.would do the job.

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Posted 29th May 2013 at 19:33
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pete_rallye

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Any suggestions/examples for the resin? Manufacturer wise that is? Had a google but can't really find it in decent quantities...

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Posted 29th May 2013 at 20:59
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Sicaflex will perminantly bond owt to owtYes

Grind around the edge of the door skinWink

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Posted 29th May 2013 at 21:03
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pete_rallye

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theres fecking loads of sikaflex's, which one you talking about?!

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Posted 29th May 2013 at 21:08
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daveyboy

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Tiger seal, it will also be described as PU adhesive, body caulking or seam sealer.

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Posted 29th May 2013 at 21:15
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pete_rallye

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Good stuff, cheap too. Cheers.

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Posted 29th May 2013 at 21:17
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daveyboy

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Take a few pictures, I'm sure others will appreciate seeing how this is done.

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Posted 29th May 2013 at 21:19
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pete_rallye

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Might try it on a spare door first....

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Posted 29th May 2013 at 21:20
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daveyboy

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Probably not a bad idea...

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Posted 29th May 2013 at 21:22
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daveyboy

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Also, might be an idea to tack a framework of some kind to the top part of the door as I bet it will get a little flimsy with the skin off. Once you bond on the new skin, if the door is twisted or warped by the skin removal process it will stay that way. So jig it up somehow would be my suggestion.

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Engine mount/chassis repair
Solid Beam Mounts BACK IN PRODUCTION
Harness bars
Posted 29th May 2013 at 21:24
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Pictures of the process would be appreciated. Yes

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Posted 29th May 2013 at 22:11
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pete_rallye

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Just been out for a look, and it doesn't look too horrendous, bit of grinding and drilling etc! Will get some pics when I get stuck in...

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Posted 29th May 2013 at 22:17
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welshpug!

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I'll ask my brother, I don't think there was that much holding the skin on, it was mainly a folded edge and some sealant.

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Posted 29th May 2013 at 22:24
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Pete, can you put a pic up of the skin you have please & how much we're they?
I'm not sure which Sikaflex to use, there didn't used to be a choice, they use this stuff to stick aeroplane wings together. Your local car body shop trade counter will point you in the right direction.

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Posted 29th May 2013 at 22:43
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pete_rallye

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Yeah, will do when I get them.. have used sikaflex before for bonding windscreens in but didnt think it'd be the same stuff for metal and fiberglass...

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Posted 29th May 2013 at 22:47
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midlife

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Pete, can you put a pic up of the skin you have please.

Cheers

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Posted 30th May 2013 at 22:13
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pete_rallye

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I haven't got it yet but will do when I have. Probably early next week...

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Posted 30th May 2013 at 22:15
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Magic, cheers PeteThumbs up

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Posted 30th May 2013 at 22:49
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midlife

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Any pics yet PeteDunno

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Posted 10th Jun 2013 at 17:35
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haven't got em yet, should be here in the next few days but probably won't be able to do them for a few days after that...

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Posted 10th Jun 2013 at 20:46
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I used tiger seal to bond carbon inner and outer door skins, it's very very strong!

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Posted 10th Jun 2013 at 22:10
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This stuff should do the trick too

http://www.cbsonline.co.uk/product/Structural_2-Part_Epoxy_Adhesive_EPOXY195?utm_source=Newsletter&utm_medium=Email&utm_content=EPOXY195&utm_campaign=May%2B2013%2BNewsletter

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Posted 13th Jun 2013 at 16:09
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