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fordygti

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Post #1
I've still got this problem. I've changed the icv twice, the Tps, and made no difference.

Had it plugged in and the fault codes that came up were,

552c
6115.

I started it up earlier, it ran fine up to to temp until it got 30 seconds down the road and it started again.

Any idea what I could be?

And anyone know what fault codes these are?

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Posted 20th May 2013 at 22:51
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Post #2
what was used to read the codes? that should have told you what they were not just given you a number.

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Posted 20th May 2013 at 22:54
fordygti

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Post #3
Don't know.what kit it was my friends.

Can't think anything else, sensor wise that would cause this. Could a wiring fault cause this?

I've also looked for an airleek.with brake cleaner but no luck.

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Posted 20th May 2013 at 23:01
bigbadbowen

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Post #4
Tried unplugging the pas sensor ? Also maybe get a new temp sensor (green plug on thermostat housing )
Posted 20th May 2013 at 23:23
fordygti

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Post #5
I have changed the green temp sensor for a.second hand one.

Pas sensor is not the cause, checked that to.

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Posted 20th May 2013 at 23:28
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Post #6
When you say 'high idle' how high is it exactly? Dunno

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Posted 21st May 2013 at 05:29
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Post #7
About 2500 to 3000 rpm

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Posted 21st May 2013 at 05:37
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Post #8
If the ICV wiring is damaged, it could be causing this.

Alternatively, check the sensors on the throttle body for tight fitment, especially the grey coloured air intake temp on the rear of the throttle body. These have been known to become loose, and you could be sucking in air through here.

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Posted 21st May 2013 at 07:30
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I had this briefly once, after my fuel pump relay decided to commit suicide by hugging the exhaust manifold!

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Posted 21st May 2013 at 07:34
fordygti

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Post #10
Have tryed known working air temp sensor and fuel relay. Have tryed so many things.now, its doing my head in.

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Posted 21st May 2013 at 07:46
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Post #11
Rather a tough one to crack then.

Here's something else to try. When the engine is revving high, disconnect the small pipe going to the ICV and block it. Obviously, the engine should stall. If it doesn't, it's getting an air supply from somewhere else. Yes

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Posted 21st May 2013 at 08:02
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Post #12
It's a charged engine.so.has an icv breather filter.

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Posted 21st May 2013 at 08:46
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Post #13
Same thing applies though, take off the filter and block the entry. Yes

See what happens. Thumbs up

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Posted 21st May 2013 at 08:52
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Didn't think of that. I'll give it a go.

Thanks.

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Posted 21st May 2013 at 09:03
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Engine stalls when icv is covered so in theory, not an air problem. Any other ideas?

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Posted 21st May 2013 at 16:33
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Post #16
When you fitted the new ICV did you do an ECU reset?

The ECU needs to be reset (the majority of the time) when a new ICV is fitted so it can recalibrate the new one to where it needs to be.

What happens if you cover *most* of the ICV inlet hole but leave a tiny fraction open? Do the revs drop down considerably? If so, that ICV isn't calibrated correctly. Thumbs up

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Posted 21st May 2013 at 16:49
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Post #17
If you mean disconnect the battery leave for a bit then try, it does the same thing.

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Posted 21st May 2013 at 17:03
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Post #18
Try my suggestion of partly blocking the hole and see what happens.

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Posted 21st May 2013 at 23:10
fordygti

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Post #19
Is there a specific amount of time your suppost to leave the battery.off for to reset.

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Posted 22nd May 2013 at 10:45
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Around 20 minutes should do it. Yes

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Posted 22nd May 2013 at 11:33
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Post #21
I read its ten minutes, overnight would do if busy.

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Posted 22nd May 2013 at 12:17
fordygti

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Post #22
Rite, today I went and got another brand new icv, fitted it and reset the ecu.

It's now starting up but won't idle atall. I've had my multimeter on the icv to ecu wiring and no problems.

Took the new icv off put it back on and it started and idled fine.

I let it run up to temperature, turned it off and back on to make sure everything was ok. It's started but th same problem again.

Any ideas?

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Posted 22nd May 2013 at 20:51
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Post #23
Did you do what I said and partially block the ICV inlet hole when the idle is high to see if the revs drop? Dunno

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Posted 22nd May 2013 at 21:08
fordygti

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Post #24
No because I put the new icv on and it won't idle atall. But can't see how it went from not idling to idling to not again. How does that make sense? Is it worth putting the old one back on and trying this?

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Posted 22nd May 2013 at 21:25
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Post #25
The point is, when you're messing with the ICV it's causing the engine to change behaviour. You are touching nothing else but the ICV, therefore if it was another fault causing the problem, messing with the ICV wouldn't affect it.

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Posted 22nd May 2013 at 21:27

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