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 superchargedblack1997gti6
Seasoned Pro  Location: guildford Registered: 15 Aug 2009 Posts: 2,376 Status: Offline |
Post #26
My impreza was a very fast car rolling roaded at the flywheel made 443 bhp 470lbft, felt faster than Richards super high boost but the speedo told a very differrent story torque makes it feel quicker than it was The reason they don't feel 400 bhp quick is because the power is all at peak revs you need to spank the arse off them for it to feel 400 bhp. IMHO________________________________________ Super high boost Completed, destroyer of gearboxes and 160mph club |
 Posted 19th Apr 2013 at 18:38
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pugheaven
Seasoned Pro  Location: Fareham Registered: 17 Dec 2006 Posts: 4,602 Status: Offline |
Post #27
The c38 requires different pistons and I would love to start with a fresh build to go with the rebuild of the Dimma.I'm not selling anything for a while as I'm away with work for 3 months. I'm thinking about using the Dimma as a time attack car and if I do iv got a complete spare engine, charger etc to keep me going! Iv had some silly offers already for the complete car and iv turned them down so it would have to be a good offer if I did sell one of the engines but including the charger and kit |
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Posted 19th Apr 2013 at 18:42
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superchargedblack1997gti6
Seasoned Pro Location: guildford Registered: 15 Aug 2009 Posts: 2,376 Status: Offline |
Post #28
Keep the engines Ollie you never know when you may need them, sad truth is they cost far more to build than there worth.  ________________________________________ Super high boost Completed, destroyer of gearboxes and 160mph club |
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Posted 19th Apr 2013 at 18:48
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simonjames
Seasoned Pro  Location: Whitland S.Wales Registered: 23 Nov 2004 Posts: 6,219 Status: Offline |
Post #29
i'd only want the high boost bits swap/part ex for some low boost so you will have a complete low boost ?________________________________________ All South Wales Members Click HereTeam Supercharged Black RALLYE ™ (Click Here for Build Project) MY EBAY ITEMS 07943066306 |
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Posted 19th Apr 2013 at 18:54
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birk
Seasoned Pro  Location: Doncaster Registered: 24 Oct 2005 Posts: 7,032 Status: Offline |
Post #30
My car made 410bhp on Wayne's rollers, it never lost power in the time I had it and then it made 350bhp, something is a miss.And the m3 made 328bhp on evolves rollers, nothing wrong with it. ________________________________________ Dimma + Gt35 turbo = Solid rear beam mounts £130 07889376885 Dan |
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Posted 19th Apr 2013 at 19:19
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simonjames
Seasoned Pro Location: Whitland S.Wales Registered: 23 Nov 2004 Posts: 6,219 Status: Offline |
Post #31
my xsi-6 made 189 and 191 at 2 local rolling roads then on a mobile road at a show it made 218, most rollers cant be taken as right there was 1 new place down here that was chucking out big figures to get the chavs in and make the money lol ________________________________________ All South Wales Members Click HereTeam Supercharged Black RALLYE ™ (Click Here for Build Project) MY EBAY ITEMS 07943066306 |
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Posted 19th Apr 2013 at 19:32
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birk
Seasoned Pro Location: Doncaster Registered: 24 Oct 2005 Posts: 7,032 Status: Offline |
Post #32
Yea, that goes with out saying.But 60bhp doesn't just disappear, oh wait...it can't have, It was never there in the 1st place lol ________________________________________ Dimma + Gt35 turbo =Solid rear beam mounts £130 07889376885 Dan |
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Posted 19th Apr 2013 at 19:36
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pugheaven
Seasoned Pro Location: Fareham Registered: 17 Dec 2006 Posts: 4,602 Status: Offline |
Post #33
Even so a 350hp 306 should do an e36 m3 easy... |
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Posted 19th Apr 2013 at 19:51
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simonjames
Seasoned Pro Location: Whitland S.Wales Registered: 23 Nov 2004 Posts: 6,219 Status: Offline |
Post #34
pugheaven wrote: Even so a 350hp 306 should do an e36 m3 easy... wasnt there a youtube vid of a phase 1 running 180bhp staying with an M3 ? ________________________________________ All South Wales Members Click HereTeam Supercharged Black RALLYE ™ (Click Here for Build Project) MY EBAY ITEMS 07943066306 |
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Posted 19th Apr 2013 at 20:35
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pugheaven
Seasoned Pro Location: Fareham Registered: 17 Dec 2006 Posts: 4,602 Status: Offline |
Post #35
My grey one out run an m3 e36 convertible, matey was a meat head and followed me to sainsburys, he got out of his car stomped over and shook my hand whilst I was s**tting a brick lolThat's y I'm very surprised that dan couldn't shake him off even if he did have 350hp |
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Posted 19th Apr 2013 at 20:50
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birk
Seasoned Pro Location: Doncaster Registered: 24 Oct 2005 Posts: 7,032 Status: Offline |
Post #36
Most m3's have f**ked vanos though, I've kept up with plenty of e46 m3's, but my mates 3.2 is surprisingly quick, but that could just be that it's actually running the bhp it should lolI've also had a race with a lambo, and kept up with that, figure that one lol ________________________________________ Dimma + Gt35 turbo =Solid rear beam mounts £130 07889376885 Dan |
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Posted 19th Apr 2013 at 21:28
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pugheaven
Seasoned Pro Location: Fareham Registered: 17 Dec 2006 Posts: 4,602 Status: Offline |
Post #37
Your 350 reading was bulls**t maybe lolIv just been taken out as a passenger in my car and it feels mental in the passenger seat! I love the fact that u can give it some beans yet still drive it like a normal 306 and it doesn't act like a highly tuned engine! Its always putting a smile on my face and that's all that counts not bhp figures  |
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Posted 19th Apr 2013 at 21:29
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birk
Seasoned Pro Location: Doncaster Registered: 24 Oct 2005 Posts: 7,032 Status: Offline |
Post #38
Ollie, you should get both your high boost cars on the rollers, would be nice to see the bhp.________________________________________ Dimma + Gt35 turbo =Solid rear beam mounts £130 07889376885 Dan |
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Posted 19th Apr 2013 at 21:32
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pugheaven
Seasoned Pro Location: Fareham Registered: 17 Dec 2006 Posts: 4,602 Status: Offline |
Post #39
Hopefully I will take both cars up as the Dimma's lump is on a generic ecu so needs mapping, both will be on Wayne's rr |
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Posted 19th Apr 2013 at 21:34
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simonjames
Seasoned Pro Location: Whitland S.Wales Registered: 23 Nov 2004 Posts: 6,219 Status: Offline |
Post #40
or remove 1 engine and sell it to me ________________________________________ All South Wales Members Click HereTeam Supercharged Black RALLYE ™ (Click Here for Build Project) MY EBAY ITEMS 07943066306 |
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Posted 19th Apr 2013 at 21:35
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pugheaven
Seasoned Pro Location: Fareham Registered: 17 Dec 2006 Posts: 4,602 Status: Offline |
Post #41
I'm not selling anything until I'm back from afghan as I'm going to use that time to research more into time attack, if I do enter I will be keeping every spare iv got!I regret selling the 4 pots and 17" pro races and more or less gave them away! |
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Posted 19th Apr 2013 at 21:38
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birk
Seasoned Pro Location: Doncaster Registered: 24 Oct 2005 Posts: 7,032 Status: Offline |
Post #42
That the problem though lol his magic rr________________________________________ Dimma + Gt35 turbo =Solid rear beam mounts £130 07889376885 Dan |
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Posted 19th Apr 2013 at 21:38
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pugheaven
Seasoned Pro Location: Fareham Registered: 17 Dec 2006 Posts: 4,602 Status: Offline |
Post #43
Might try and sort out a rolling road day down my way and see what they both get once they are finished and mapped |
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Posted 19th Apr 2013 at 21:42
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birk
Seasoned Pro Location: Doncaster Registered: 24 Oct 2005 Posts: 7,032 Status: Offline |
Post #44
Just take the red one to a local one now.________________________________________ Dimma + Gt35 turbo =Solid rear beam mounts £130 07889376885 Dan |
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Posted 19th Apr 2013 at 21:47
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pugheaven
Seasoned Pro Location: Fareham Registered: 17 Dec 2006 Posts: 4,602 Status: Offline |
Post #45
I planned to last Sunday at a charity meet but they didn't turn up!Don't mind £20 but any more than that just for a bit of paper that I can take to the pub with me is not worth it in my opinion. My local one wants £70 |
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Posted 19th Apr 2013 at 22:00
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birk
Seasoned Pro Location: Doncaster Registered: 24 Oct 2005 Posts: 7,032 Status: Offline |
Post #46
£70 - fcuk that, don't blame ya.It would be great if you could get it on one like, it would clarify if I was given a magic 400+ figure to make me happy or not, and put some truth behind the actual power these cars produce. ________________________________________ Dimma + Gt35 turbo =Solid rear beam mounts £130 07889376885 Dan |
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Posted 19th Apr 2013 at 22:12
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Takedown
Senior User  Location: Holland Registered: 18 Oct 2012 Posts: 845 Status: Offline |
Post #47
When my M3 wasnt supercharged but with carbon airbox and 7100 revlimit vs the zx turbo with 328, i couldnt really hang to it on the highway, it was a bit quicker until the zx hit its topspeedGiven its weight a M3 wouldnt touch a 350bhp 306... the 350BHP 306 would spank it When the Vortech V1 Ttrim was on the M3 it was a different story ,lol |
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Posted 19th Apr 2013 at 23:15
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fletch
Track Head  Location: The nearest Shell garage Registered: 12 Jun 2004 Posts: 12,273 Status: Offline |
Post #48
birk wrote: Yea, that goes with out saying. But 60bhp doesn't just disappear, oh wait...it can't have, It was never there in the 1st place lol Did you investigate: Boost leak? Wheel slip on rollers? Ignition timing? Knock? |
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Posted 20th Apr 2013 at 00:20
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birk
Seasoned Pro Location: Doncaster Registered: 24 Oct 2005 Posts: 7,032 Status: Offline |
Post #49
It was a hub dyno.Boost was normal at 19psi No knock or timing issues. The curve of the graph was exactly the same from when I had my 410bhp RR, which leads me to think about 3 options. 1. I was given the magic 400+ figure to make me happy. 2. My engine was fooked in the 1st place 3. His dyno is way out and these high boost engine's arnt as good as ther supposed to be. Oh... My car regularly did 13.1sec quarter mile times, as did a few other members with the magic 400bhp+ figures from a certain RR. ________________________________________ Dimma + Gt35 turbo =Solid rear beam mounts £130 07889376885 Dan |
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Posted 20th Apr 2013 at 10:17
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Takedown
Senior User Location: Holland Registered: 18 Oct 2012 Posts: 845 Status: Offline |
Post #50
13 sec 1.4 is slow for a 400bhp 306.... 60ft of 2.9 secs? |
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Posted 20th Apr 2013 at 16:15
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